Conservative evangelical preacher

[shadowed by the secret police]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/03/haggard.a...ions/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/03/haggard.allegations/index.html)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15536263/


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Haggard

[Sadena Meti]

I don't think a once-a-month (for three years) rent boy makes him a "fiend". Might want to watch your word choice or you might end up restricted.


Still, it is like the UK Tory scandals are coming to the US. I'm enjoying it.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Evangelical leader says he bought meth

By CATHERINE TSAI, Associated Press Writer 23 minutes ago

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. - The Rev. Ted Haggard said Friday he bought methamphetamine and received a massage from a male prostitute. But the influential Christian evangelist insisted he threw the drugs away and never had sex with the man.

Haggard, who as president of the National Association of Evangelicals wielded influence on Capitol Hill and condemned both gay marriage and homosexuality, resigned on Thursday after a Denver man named Mike Jones claimed that he had many drug-fueled trysts with Haggard.

On Friday, Haggard said that he received a massage from Jones after being referred to him by a Denver hotel, and that he bought meth for himself from the man.

But Haggard said he never had sex with Jones. And as for the drugs, "I was tempted, but I never used it," the 50-year-old Haggard told reporters from his vehicle while leaving his home with his wife and three of his five children.

Jones, 49, denied selling meth to Haggard. "Never," he told MSNBC. Haggard "met someone else that I had hooked him up with to buy it."

Jones also scoffed at the idea that a hotel would have sent Haggard to him.

"No concierge in Denver would have referred me," he said. He said he had advertised himself as an escort only in gay publications or on gay Web sites.

Jones did not immediately return calls from The Associated Press on Friday.

In addition to resigning his post at the NAE, which claims 30 million members, Haggard stepped aside as leader of his 14,000-member New Life Church pending a church investigation. In a TV interview this week, he said: "Never had a gay relationship with anybody, and I'm steady with my wife, I'm faithful to my wife."

In Denver, where Jones said his encounters with Haggard took place, police said in a news release they planned to contact the people involved for information on whether a crime was committed. The statement did not say whether an investigation was under way, and police spokeswoman Virginia Quinones declined to elaborate.

Lynn Kimbrough, a spokeswoman for the district attorney's office, said that a public admission isn't enough by itself to bring a case, but that charges will be filed if criminal conduct can be proved.

Jones claims Haggard paid him for sex nearly every month for three years until August. He said Haggard identified himself as "Art." Jones said that he learned who Haggard really was when he saw the evangelical leader on television.

Jones said he went public with the allegations because Haggard has supported a measure on Tuesday's ballot that would amend the state constitution to ban gay marriage. Jones said he was also angry that Haggard in public condemned gay sex.

Haggard, who had been president of the NAE since 2003, has participated in conservative Christian leaders' conference calls with White House staffers and lobbied members of Congress last year on
U.S. Supreme Court nominees.

The NAE's executive committee issued a statement Friday praising Haggard's service but saying "it is especially serious when a pastor and prominent Christian leader deliberately violates God's standards of conduct."

The statement did not mention the allegations against Haggard beyond noting he had admitted to "some indiscretions."

"Due to the seriousness of Rev. Haggard's misconduct while in the leadership roles he held, we anticipate that an extended period of recovery will be appropriate," the statement said.

White House Deputy Press Secretary Tony Fratto said Friday that Haggard had visited the White House once or twice and participated in some of the conference calls. He declined to comment further, calling the matter a personal issue for Haggard.

Corwin Smidt, a political scientist at Calvin College in Grand Rapids, Mich., and director of the Institute for the Study of Christianity and Politics there, said that Haggard's role with the association gave him some political clout, but that the group's focus is more on religion than political activism.

"It isn't necessarily that all evangelicals are paying close attention to what he's saying and doing, but he is an important leader," Smidt said.

James Dobson, head of Focus on the Family, an influential conservative Christian ministry based in Colorado Springs, said he was "heartsick" over the allegations. He described Haggard as his close friend and colleague.

Aaron Stern, another pastor at New Life, told Associated Press Television News on Friday that Haggard is a man of integrity and that church members don't know whether to believe the allegations.

Stern said he has been telling church members seeking his advice: "People do things we don't expect them to do, but in the midst of all of that our God is faithful, our God is strong."

Jones took a lie-detector test Friday, and his answers to questions about whether he had sexual contact with Haggard "indicated deception," said John Kresnick, who administered the test free at the request of a Denver radio station.

Jones told reporters afterward: "I am confused why I failed that, other than the fact that I'm totally exhausted."

[bloody_capitalist_sham]

For evangelicals this is pretty important news.

I hope this guy "confesses" his "sins".

It must have been rather painful for a gay man to preach each sunday about how being gay is wrong and taking drugs is wrong.

[nmlssone]

What pisses me off is the fact that a big deal is being made out of the fact that he is gay. Why would it matter? All it does is play to the prejudices of most Americans, one of the most homophobic nations in the world. (Except here in the People's Republic of San Francisco)

[afrikaNOW]

Originally posted by [email protected] 04, 2006 11:58 am
For evangelicals this is pretty important news.

I hope this guy "confesses" his "sins".

It must have been rather painful for a gay man to preach each sunday about how being gay is wrong and taking drugs is wrong.
Why would it be?

[Janus]

:lol: This is probably one of the most amusing and ironic religious scandals this year. It seems that no major religious denomination is free from this kind of stuff.


I hope this guy "confesses" his "sins".
I'm pretty sure he has.

[shadowed by the secret police]

What interests me is that this is the preacher who was debating with evolutionist Richard Dawkins on that BBC special on Religion.

Now if Jesus is all powerful like this preacher said he is, when he was born again and received Jesus into his heart Jesus should have been able to transform him into the pious Christian he pretends to be. He claimed Jesus can transform anyone into a good pure soul. This guy just wants power. Jesus can't change anyone because Jesus is dead.

[Comrade J]

Originally posted by afrikaNOW+November 05, 2006 07:34 am--> (afrikaNOW @ November 05, 2006 07:34 am)
[email protected] 04, 2006 11:58 am
For evangelicals this is pretty important news.

I hope this guy "confesses" his "sins".

It must have been rather painful for a gay man to preach each sunday about how being gay is wrong and taking drugs is wrong.
Why would it be? [/b]
Because he has so much influence on people, he knows they're going to take in and follow what he preaches, so if he's preaching anti-homosexual messages whilst being homosexual himself, it must have been rather painful as bloody capitalist sham said, as they're going to continue hating people like himself, because of what he is saying.

[ichneumon]

kudos to the gay mafia - another one bites the dust. hell, wait til 2008 - the year character assassination wars go nuclear.

btw, i first came by the idea of the gay mafia from friends in bands, who claimed that there was a secret society that determines who plays where and who gets recorded. them rush limbaugh was squawking about that re: folley. being gay myself, i will say that it is COMPLETELY possible that such a group exists, though i've never encountered it directly. if there's isn't a gay mafia, well, there should be.