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Pow R. Toc H.
2nd November 2006, 17:50
I was curious what people thought about National Socialist Black Metal?
I dont really consider it to be national socialist because all NS means is that the band is racist, usually you can tell a NSBM band from a normal BM band by the use of the word "aryan" or the use of swastika like patterns. Wouldnt they be fascist? The use of the word aryan and swastikas describes extreme nationalism, doesnt it?

An archist
2nd November 2006, 18:55
the swastika is commonly associated with national socialism, wich is the form fascism took under Hitler

The Grey Blur
3rd November 2006, 14:31
Burzum track title for the username?

Niiiiiice :cool:

Gunman
3rd November 2006, 17:30
Originally posted by The Crying [email protected] 02, 2006 05:50 pm
I was curious what people thought about National Socialist Black Metal?
I dont really consider it to be national socialist because all NS means is that the band is racist, usually you can tell a NSBM band from a normal BM band by the use of the word "aryan" or the use of swastika like patterns. Wouldnt they be fascist? The use of the word aryan and swastikas describes extreme nationalism, doesnt it?

I was curious what people thought about National Socialist Black Metal?

It sucks. About 99% of the bands are just some hatecore boneheads who want to sound grim and cold.


I dont really consider it to be national socialist because all NS means is that the band is racist

You know that there is much more to National-Socialism than racism right?


usually you can tell a NSBM band from a normal BM band by the use of the word "aryan" or the use of swastika like patterns.

You´re somewhat right.


Wouldnt they be fascist?

No.


The use of the word aryan and swastikas describes extreme nationalism, doesnt it?

Depends on the context. If you were to talk about that in Asia, it would certainly be associated with Hinduism. However, since National-Socialists (once again) stole those symbols and gave them a "new" meaning, everyone in the western world associates words like "aryan" and "swastikas" with National-Socialism. But in this case, you could say that those symbols represent nationalism.

P.S: I´m not sure if this should be in Opposing Ideologies or in Music.

BreadBros
3rd November 2006, 18:13
"National Socialism" has nothing to do with leftist or Marxist socialism. "National Socialist" = Nazi. In fact, the word NAZI is a sort of amalgam of the german words for National Socialism just like SOZI was a short form for socialists in Germany back then. So yeah, theyre fascist, racist, nationalist, etc.