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nightwatchman
31st October 2006, 02:53
I found this quote on an other leftiest website but I do not fully understand what is meant by it, "In a world run by the corporations we are all immigrants", so If you could voice you thoughts on this sentence to help me understand this better that would help me out a lot.

amanondeathrow
31st October 2006, 02:57
I assume they are trying to say that as long as we live in a capitalist society, the majority of the population is just as exploited as illegal immigrants.

We should therefore not support any actions to discriminate against immigrants (including trying to prevent it) even if it appeals to our national interests.

uber-liberal
1st November 2006, 12:19
How I read it is that when you live on subsistance pay, you go where the work is, even to a foreign country. eventually we will all be mobile enough for the corporations' desires.
There have been articles over the past couple of years about Americans going to places like Mexico, India and Peru to "keep" their jobs, all while leaving families and friends back in the states.

Marsella
1st November 2006, 12:24
I found this quote on an other leftiest website but I do not fully understand what is meant by it, "In a world run by the corporations we are all immigrants", so If you could voice you thoughts on this sentence to help me understand this better that would help me out a lot.

In my opinion, what this means is that the working class has no nation. Remember in the Communist Manifesto:


The Communists are further reproached with desiring to abolish countries and nationality.

The workers have no country. We cannot take from them what they have not got. Since the proletariat must first of all acquire political supremacy, must rise to be the leading class of the nation, must constitute itself the nation, it is, so far, itself national, though not in the bourgeois sense of the word.

So, in a capitalist world all workers are according to this sentence 'immigrants' because we do not, as yet, have a working class nation.

Hope it helped :D

Hegemonicretribution
1st November 2006, 15:04
It would probably be easier in context but my guess is that it is a combination of some of the things already mentioned. I think it also implies that the "corporation" is a foreign (alien) environment to the workers, who share a relationship with their employer similar to that of an immigrant and the state.

Sadena Meti
1st November 2006, 15:53
Originally posted by [email protected] 01, 2006 07:24 am

I found this quote on an other leftiest website but I do not fully understand what is meant by it, "In a world run by the corporations we are all immigrants", so If you could voice you thoughts on this sentence to help me understand this better that would help me out a lot.

In my opinion, what this means is that the working class has no nation. Remember in the Communist Manifesto:

I would say the intended meaning was half that, and half "the exploitation of illegal immigrants is just a more intense example of the exploitation of all people."

BreadBros
2nd November 2006, 01:12
I think Martov is dead right. It sounds like what they are saying is that the growth of capitalism and the growing power of corporations means the nation-state is being subverted by capitalism itself. The notion of what country you come from is increasingly meaningless. Instead populatons are just being turned into mobile pools of labor, just like traditional immigrants.

nightwatchman
2nd November 2006, 02:43
Thanks A lot comrades I understand now what it meant by the sentence. I cant beleive I didn't think of that before