how long wil fidel hold on?

[Y Chwyldro Comiwnyddol Cymraeg]

when fidel castro dies, what wil happen raul is also old is there anyone else lined up?

[u.u]

What if Raul dies before him? Once Castro dies, there better be elections, successful succession or else the USA will invade. We will see. In the meantime, I wish there was another Oaxaca.

[Red October]

hopefully there will be free and fair elections so any leftist government in cuba would have alot more credibility in the eyes of the world.

[More Fire for the People]

When Castro dies the vice president will hold the office of president until the next election. Raul is the current vice president.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

He's one of the vice presidents. There are a few. But yes, he will take over until the next elections for the bodies of People's Power are held, at which time the people of Cuba will select Raul or, more likely, someone else like Lage, Alarcon, Roque, etc.

[Organic Revolution]

well hopefully when fidel dies, the people get real freedom.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Maybe you can send them some food you dug out of a dumpster, and a pair of DIY pants.. that will show them the path to liberation.

[Organic Revolution]

ha, when someone doesnt latch onto your paticular ideology, you have to try and tear them down? first off, i dont eat food out of dumpsters, and i dont war DIY pants (whatever that means).. your assumptions are wrong.. try again.

[Red Rebel]

Felipe Pérez Roque, minister of foreign affairs, along with also has a good shot at after Raul. But thats the national assemblys choice.

[LoneRed]

hopefully the people take power, instead of some useless figureheads

[Y Chwyldro Comiwnyddol Cymraeg]

what would the people running the country mea?direct democracy?there would stil need to be a government of some sort to diliver their demands?
i am unsure on this topic,please correct me and inform me of how it will work

[LoneRed]

Im referring to neighborhood and workplace committees, dectentralized power. Having an executive isnt necessary in a socialist society, in fact, it goes against the very idea of socialism

[Y Chwyldro Comiwnyddol Cymraeg]

so they would control their work i.e own the factory but not the country i.e foreign policys, who would control that?

[LoneRed]

Well socialism can only come about when it is international. The workers control their workplaces, in their respective areas of the world. The working class represents themselves, thats primarily why im arguing against Cuba as socialist, because the "representatives" are not members of the working class.

[PRC-UTE]

Originally posted by [email protected] 31, 2006 07:05 pm
hopefully the people take power, instead of some useless figureheads
mass workers organisations do control Cuban society, though. For instance, here's a good article from Granma on how the Workers' Congress is making recommendations on how to reshape the economy and continue the gains of the Revolution. (http://www.granma.cu/INGLES/2006/septiembre/mier27/40ctc.html)

[AlwaysAnarchy]

Originally posted by PRC-UTE+November 02, 2006 03:05 am--> (PRC-UTE @ November 02, 2006 03:05 am)
[email protected] 31, 2006 07:05 pm
hopefully the people take power, instead of some useless figureheads
mass workers organisations do control Cuban society, though. For instance, here's a good article from Granma on how the Workers' Congress is making recommendations on how to reshape the economy and continue the gains of the Revolution. (http://www.granma.cu/INGLES/2006/septiembre/mier27/40ctc.html) [/b]
Yes Granma, such an unbias source... :rolleyes:

In reality, Cuba is a state capitalist country following more and more closely the models of China and Vietnam. Already heavy foreign investment into their tourist industry from multinational corporations are creating more class divisions inside Cuba as regular Cubans are not allowed to enter the tourist resorts.

Castro is just another state capitalist dictator and his death will be, like the state capitalist dictators that came before him, a victory for socialism.

[PRC-UTE]

Originally posted by PeacefulAnarchist+November 02, 2006 04:19 am--> (PeacefulAnarchist @ November 02, 2006 04:19 am)
Originally posted by PRC-[email protected] 02, 2006 03:05 am

[email protected] 31, 2006 07:05 pm
hopefully the people take power, instead of some useless figureheads
mass workers organisations do control Cuban society, though. For instance, here's a good article from Granma on how the Workers' Congress is making recommendations on how to reshape the economy and continue the gains of the Revolution. (http://www.granma.cu/INGLES/2006/septiembre/mier27/40ctc.html)
Yes Granma, such an unbias source... :rolleyes:

In reality, Cuba is a state capitalist country following more and more closely the models of China and Vietnam. Already heavy foreign investment into their tourist industry from multinational corporations are creating more class divisions inside Cuba as regular Cubans are not allowed to enter the tourist resorts.

Castro is just another state capitalist dictator and his death will be, like the state capitalist dictators that came before him, a victory for socialism. [/b]
Are you accusing Granma of distorting the truth? I don't see what was shady about the article, or specifically what you claim is made-up. Please give me more info - a little virtue goes a long way.

You're really not too clued up about Cuba. It's not following the path of China and Vietnam... it's actually going the other way. The 'special period' you're referring to is over. Cuba's been using the hotels lately for people who need eye surgery from all over North America to stay in. :D

If the revolution is strengthening after Fidel's abscence from political leadership, (which all the evidence points to) that logically doesn't suggest he's a dictator.

[AlwaysAnarchy]

Are you claiming that Cuba has abandoned tourism? That all the major mutli-million dollar resorts created by companies in Spain and other capitalist countries in Europe are being used solely for people who need eye surgery?

Give me a break....

[PRC-UTE]

Originally posted by [email protected] 02, 2006 04:42 am
Are you claiming that Cuba has abandoned tourism? That all the major mutli-million dollar resorts created by companies in Spain and other capitalist countries in Europe are being used solely for people who need eye surgery?

Give me a break....
Nice dodge.

What I said was, they're not following the model of Vietnam and China.

The bit about eye surgery is true as well.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Yeah, the state owns most hotels, but there are some that are owned in part (no more than 49%) by foreign corporations. You'll have that when you're the only socialist country on earth, and you've been under economic, political and military attack for 50 years. Only more revolutions can break Cuba out of isolation and allow it the room it needs; but until then the Cuban people are maintaining their socialist system, the most just and democratic in the world.

[TheDifferenceEngine]

Comrade Che will rise from the dead and lead the revolution once more!

Right?

[Jazzratt]

Originally posted by PeacefulAnarchist+November 02, 2006 04:19 am--> (PeacefulAnarchist @ November 02, 2006 04:19 am)
Originally posted by PRC-[email protected] 02, 2006 03:05 am

[email protected] 31, 2006 07:05 pm
hopefully the people take power, instead of some useless figureheads
mass workers organisations do control Cuban society, though. For instance, here's a good article from Granma on how the Workers' Congress is making recommendations on how to reshape the economy and continue the gains of the Revolution. (http://www.granma.cu/INGLES/2006/septiembre/mier27/40ctc.html)
Yes Granma, such an unbias source... :rolleyes: [/b]
Better than whatever bourgeoise gusano crap you've been reading.


In reality, Reality is something you're far removed from pacifist
Cuba is a state capitalist country following more and more closely the models of China and Vietnam. Already heavy foreign investment into their tourist industry from multinational corporations are creating more class divisions inside Cuba as regular Cubans are not allowed to enter the tourist resorts. As it is plain for anyone to see your "reality" is made up of rumours & outright lies from the American propraganda machine and their gusano allies.


Castro is just another state capitalist dictator and his death will be, like the state capitalist dictators that came before him, a victory for socialism. You don't know what you're talking about, considering the circumstances Cuba is very free and socialist. As CDL pointed out it's under near enough perpetual attack. It is not the "insta-utopia" you think would spering up after revolution because there is none, every step towards communism is a struggle.

[Rawthentic]

For me, socialism is international and a worker's controlled economy, but lets not get into that. I believe that when Fidel dies, the people will continue the revolution, or at least I hope.