Capitalist forum

[Dr Mindbender]

Noticed some people had put fascist forum links down for the purposes of agitation so it struck me as logical that the capitalists must have one too.
http://capitalismforum.com/phpBB2/index.php

Sorry if this has been posted before, or if indeed ive put this on the innapropriate board.

[Whitten]

Sorry, I cant bring myself to associate with people who follow he beliefs of Ayn Rand.

[Pirate Utopian]

those people are just sad

[RedCommieBear]

Noticed some people had put fascist forum links down for the purposes of agitation so it struck me as logical that the capitalists must have one too.
http://capitalismforum.com/phpBB2/index.php

Ulster Socialist, I'll take your Capitalist Forum, and raise you the Capitalist Chicks Web-Site (http://www.capitalistchicks.com/). Seriously, capitalist chicks?

[LoneRed]

They are pathetic, studying Ayn Rand?

what total useless bullshit

[Jhé]

I registered there the other day, i like to see both sides of an arguement before coming to a conclusion. I was also trying to educate this predominently US inhabited forum. Went on it this evening and i am now banned. I have not expressed any views that i deem to be communist or even socialist ones yet i have an IP ban. If i explained why i joined i would most likley of been banned as well. It seems that these people don't seem to be very open to arguments which aren't capitalist.

[Dr Mindbender]

I got IP banned after 2 posts. HA! Beat that! :P (my id was anti_you incidentally)

Really just goes to prove that the capitalists would rather ban opinions they cant argue with. They dont like the truth you see. At least revleft gives them the right to reply which is more than can be said for this lot.

[Jhé]

Quite an achievement there, although the nature of your posts were probably more...hostile than mine lol

[Janus]

Moved.

[RevolutionaryMarxist]

w-o-w

that forum is funny


Originally posted by GoldStandard


Originally posted by anarchist:


Anyway that's the anarcho-communist perspective. What is the capitalist/fascist response to this, in defense of class society?
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Fascism is a form of socialism and you have been banned.

That just made me laugh =), what idiots

[Matty_UK]

Originally posted by RevolutionaryMarxist+November 01, 2006 01:21 am--> (RevolutionaryMarxist @ November 01, 2006 01:21 am) w-o-w

that forum is funny


GoldStandard


Originally posted by anarchist:


Anyway that's the anarcho-communist perspective. What is the capitalist/fascist response to this, in defense of class society?
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Fascism is a form of socialism and you have been banned.

That just made me laugh =), what idiots [/b]
Haha that was me who posted that!

[BreadBros]

This is the stupidest shit I've read:


"Don't Call Me Lucky"
By Debbie Brannigan

Déjà vu:
1) An impression of having seen or experienced something before
2) A dull familiarity: monotony

I have had the same verbal exchange so many times now that I can almost script it. It's like being in a predictable Twilight Zone episode. I know every line and what the out-come will be yet I am doomed to sit and endure every moment up to it's inevitable conclusion.

It always starts and ends the same:

"...but other people are not as lucky as you and I are. "

"Define 'lucky': what do you mean by that?"

"I mean that other people aren't lucky enough to be college educated like us."

"So you scratch a winning lotto card now to get a degree? When did they start that?"

"You know what I mean! I mean that other people can't afford college educations and they're forced to work at minimum wage jobs, wearing name tags and serving burgers."

"I'm not college educated. I dropped out of high school at age 16. By 17 I was pregnant and by 18 I was a teen mom. I worked 16 hour days at multiple minimum wage jobs, wore a nametag, and yes, I served many burgers through the drive through window. Now tell me, if I'm so 'lucky', what did I have that these so called nameless others did not?"

I never get an answer. They 'blank out', as Ayn Rand used to call it. I've had this discussion with a college co-op student, co-workers and neighbors. The faces change but the basic premise of their argument is always the same: other people are helpless and just plain stupid. They cannot get ahead without intervention by those who know best. How elitist is that!? Typical.

Nothing angers me more than to be called lucky. It is always those people who have never seen hard financial times that attach the lucky label to wealth, without ever once considering that it had to be created. An effort was made by somebody at some time to achieve their current comfort level.

I made poor choices in life, which led to poor situations. These were MY choices and therefore MY responsibility to change the situation I put myself in. And just as there was no 'bad luck', which landed me into my seemingly dead-end lifestyle, there was no 'good luck' that got me out of it. One job wasn't enough, so I got two more. I worked 16-hour days for two years, never having a day off. Eventually, I got better jobs and worked less. I took every free class I could find. I paid for summer computer courses and went at night after working ten-hour days. I invested a lot of time, energy and effort to improve myself and it paid off. What did I have that the so-called nameless others did not? The answer seems simple enough: ambition. When people attribute it to 'luck' it undermines the effort required behind it. I am not the only proof that success can be achieved through hard work in a free society. Look at the immigrants who come here with nothing and succeed.

I worked very hard to achieve my goals and self-respect. Don't call me lucky: call me a Capitalist!


Yes, because working up like that is possible for just about ANYONE to achieve and all we're lacking in is ambition:rolleyes: because OF COURSE people love to work shitty jobs. As far as the Ayn Rand devotion, most people consider the Rand-ians to essentially be a cult.

[Dyst]

I've sometimes wondered if there is a connection between these two. Could it be that those who promote and preach socialism, communism, or any such collectivist system do so because they feel unable to meet the demands of a truly free society? Do they feel inadequate to compete with others and feel the only way to build themselves up is to take from others?

There we have it guys and gals. They have cracked into the complex mind of a revolutionary and found the reason we act so insane.


Socialists and Commies also tend to be elitests who think they know better than everyone else and want the power to control the world. They think they have vision and foresight that few others have. This is usually due to an Ivy League education in something completely useless like Russian Literature or Feminism. So they are useless people who can manipulate language and philosophy to convince people of any old rediculous idea. They feel a little guilty about being useless as well and this is the primary motivtion and so they decide to try to change the world to make up for being leeches. And worse they think they will do such a great job, ya know, since they are so, so intelligent.

But they pretend to be meek and humble and selfless, for the people.

Well, I don't know about you, but I'm getting the chills... Spot on!

[BreadBros]

Hahahahaha, are these people for real?

[RevolutionaryMarxist]

most people consider the Rand-ians to essentially be a cult.

wow there is a small group of Randians around my area and people already consider them a cult - because they are. They tried to make me read "The Fountainhead" to convert me towards Ayn-Rand-ism

[RedAnarchist]

Originally posted by Ulster [email protected] 30, 2006 07:59 pm
Noticed some people had put fascist forum links down for the purposes of agitation so it struck me as logical that the capitalists must have one too.
http://capitalismforum.com/phpBB2/index.php

Sorry if this has been posted before, or if indeed ive put this on the innapropriate board.

I'm going to join as TAKN and see how long I last.

On that board, at the bottom, it says copyright 2004-1997. Shouldn't it say 1997-2004?

[Jhé]

they do live in the USA....

also i do not think youll last for very long :P i suppose it depends on how many posts you can get in before they ban you

[RedAnarchist]

I've got 4 or 5 so far.

[Goatse]

Signed up... I'm in the process of going around and accusing everyone who opposes nuking North Korea of being a communist and having liberal tendencies.

EDIT: WTF, I've been banned already.

They must get a lot of this shit.

[RedAnarchist]

They banned me too.

[OneBrickOneVoice]

Sign up at Debatepolitics.com

it's loaded with uber-capitalists and libertarians. I'm the only socialist there besides for some chomskyist and it kinda sucks when you have to respond 15 Ayn Rand supporters about the problems of capitalism alone lol.

[Tekun]

I couldn't believe it when I read it


Why I Will Not Vote for Any Republican
by John Lewis

Conservatives have created a facade of capitalism, which hides their anti-capitalist agenda.

How much more do they wanna exploit ppl? Maybe they want workers to live in barracks outside the factory, in order to reduce free time and increase production

[BreadBros]

How much more do they wanna exploit ppl? Maybe they want workers to live in barracks outside the factory, in order to reduce free time and increase production

They dont "want" anyone to do anything, man. Remember, capitalism is all about consent. You arent an employee, you are a independent contractor. If you have a shitty job, its because you consented to one, its not their fault you're poor and have to eat! :lol: :lol: :lol:

These Randians are fucking stupid.

[OneBrickOneVoice]

I registered as 'bush is super cool' let's see how long i last.

[Tekun]

SupahPatriot over here :rolleyes:
And having a ball trolling and pissing them off

[Jhé]

Bush is super cool's post has been deleted; it was not appropriate.

Bush is super cool, say something with some kind of content, or you'll be banned right away.

[OneBrickOneVoice]

Originally posted by [email protected] 04, 2006 10:25 am
SupahPatriot over here :rolleyes:
And having a ball trolling and pissing them off

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Bush is super cool's post has been deleted; it was not appropriate.

Bush is super cool, say something with some kind of content, or you'll be banned right away.
lol

Someone asked who would build bridges in an ideal capitalist society and I said we wouldn't need them because we could just use the corpses of dead workers lol.

[OneBrickOneVoice]

I've been banned; 5 posts. Damn! and I was trying to act convincable, blaming everything on the communists and immigrants lol. O well.

[AlwaysAnarchy]

:lol: :lol: :lol: LOL! This one was great! Thanks TAKN!



LaszloWalrus

Joined: 29 Dec 2005
Posts: 427
Location: Durham, North Carolina Bully everyone here on Earth? TAKN, what do you stand for and why?


TAKN

TAKN stands for ThisAnarchistKillsNazis. I'm an anarcho-communist from Britain. I stand for internationalism, revolution, egalitarianism and libertarian socialism.

I do so beacuse I feel that capitalism does not benefit most of the world. Instead, it exploits them. Capitalists wage wars, but send the workers to die for their governments. Being born to a certain family means being obscenely rich, or desperately poor. Being born a certain colour or having certain sexual organs makes people unequal. Capitalism was the death of feudalism, adn communism will be the death of capitalism.


LaszloWalrus

Why do you stand for these things?




LOL! The guy asked him why he stood for these things the first time, TAKN responded and then...he asks him the very same question after TAKN already explained why! What a doofus! Guess he's not very quick now is he?

[Political_Chucky]

I mangaged to get a post on every forum except the open forum :P

[RevMARKSman]

Can you people stop trolling and actually try to debate these people? Or at least something? This does nothing to our image or, really, anything.

[Orange Juche]

Originally posted by Red [email protected] 30, 2006 05:51 pm

Noticed some people had put fascist forum links down for the purposes of agitation so it struck me as logical that the capitalists must have one too.
http://capitalismforum.com/phpBB2/index.php

Ulster Socialist, I'll take your Capitalist Forum, and raise you the Capitalist Chicks Web-Site (http://www.capitalistchicks.com/). Seriously, capitalist chicks?
"I like sunsets, walks on the beach, and class disparity!"

[Tekun]

Banned after 10....Chucky, I just read all your posts! :lol:

[Jhé]

Originally posted by [email protected] 06, 2006 12:45 am
Can you people stop trolling and actually try to debate these people? Or at least something? This does nothing to our image or, really, anything.
i attempted to educate them... but alas, before i could argue with my point back i got banned...

even if they dont believe what i do they should try to respect my opinion as i respect theirs and should be proud to stand up for what they believe thus debate back, or because they are from the US perhaps they are incapable of doing this...hate to stereotype :P

[OneBrickOneVoice]

If you want to debate capitalists come here,

Debatepolitics.com (http://Debatepolitics.com)

You won't get banned if you're a socialist/anarchist/communist and the forum is packed with neoliberals. I'm currently the only active socialists and it's kind of a pain in the ass arguing against 15 AynRandists why capitalism sucks.

[BreadBros]

Why bother though?

[Jhé]

you would bother my friend because you should care for your fellow man..

have no fear left henry, i have joined ... i see the stick you get on that forum by these poor mis-informed and delusioned people

my forum name is Jhé

[OneBrickOneVoice]

Originally posted by Don [email protected] 07, 2006 04:51 pm
you would bother my friend because you should care for your fellow man..

have no fear left henry, i have joined ... i see the stick you get on that forum by these poor mis-informed and delusioned people

my forum name is Jhé
cool. That's good. My original forum name was Che but I switched it to LeftyHenry so that way all my usernames on forums would be the same.


Why bother though?

Because, it's good when people challenge your ideas. It makes you think more about your ideology. If you provide intelligent responses, it makes them think about theirs. Several members of that forum have become socialists or at least social democrats after I talked to them.

[Tekun]

I applaud those that dedicate themselves...I would, but I post long ass responses, and therefore I would spend most of my time there, rathern than on here or in doing homework <_<

[Felicia]

Originally posted by Ulster [email protected] 30, 2006 03:59 pm
Noticed some people had put fascist forum links down for the purposes of agitation so it struck me as logical that the capitalists must have one too.
http://capitalismforum.com/phpBB2/index.php

Sorry if this has been posted before, or if indeed ive put this on the innapropriate board.
We can&#39;t advocate trolling.


After all, if we don&#39;t like them here, why should we commit the same acts? It&#39;s hypocritical and I won&#39;t support it. However, there&#39;s nothing wrong with signing up and properly debating, without the &#39;trolling&#39; :)

[Dr Mindbender]

Originally posted by Felicia+November 08, 2006 06:46 pm--> (Felicia @ November 08, 2006 06:46 pm)
Ulster [email protected] 30, 2006 03:59 pm
Noticed some people had put fascist forum links down for the purposes of agitation so it struck me as logical that the capitalists must have one too.
http://capitalismforum.com/phpBB2/index.php

Sorry if this has been posted before, or if indeed ive put this on the innapropriate board.
We can&#39;t advocate trolling.


After all, if we don&#39;t like them here, why should we commit the same acts? It&#39;s hypocritical and I won&#39;t support it. However, there&#39;s nothing wrong with signing up and properly debating, without the &#39;trolling&#39; :) [/b]
These lot are so tied up in their own views that they deserve to get trolled&#33;
Hopefully if enough of us do it theyll give up typing their crap. Anyway, I posted them perfectly legitimate points and they banned me before i could get my final word in. Like i said, at least we give these a lot a &#39;reactionary corner&#39; that they can argue with us.

[Red Party]

Once again our forum is under assault by certain obnoxious persons who seem to think it is their right to cause trouble. Naturally, they should be kicked out, but we don&#39;t want them to come back right away and I have a couple of suggestions in that regard:

(1) Put a temporary moratorium on new users. Hopefully tweedle dee and tweedle dumb will have calmed down or gone elsewhere by the time the ban is lifted and won&#39;t be a continuing problem.

(2) A more permanent solution would be to implement a waiting period for all new users. That wouldn&#39;t completely eliminate assaults by retrograde induhviduals, but it would make them less frequent.

If, for example, a new user was not allowed to make a post for a month after signing up, that would limit the assaults by trouble makers to once a month and, more importantly, would serve the same purpose as a moratorium in that it would give the hot-heads a chance to cool down and forget about us.

The primary question is whether a waiting period would stifle the legitimate growth of the forum to an unacceptable degree. Another question is whether it is possible using the existing software or how difficult it would be to modify the software to make it possible.

Comments?

Darrell



Hahaha, comrades looks like you realy pissed them off&#33; :lol:


Communism has collapsed, but this spirit of senseless sacrifice persists today

This idiotic capitalist pigs think communism is defeated, their morons&#33;

[Dimentio]

RevLeft Troll brigade... lol.

[OneBrickOneVoice]

LOL they didn&#39;t IP ban me. I re-registered as Pinochetist

[Red Party]

I registered there as com, I managed to post the same message almost everywhere.

Here&#39;s what sayid in my post to the capitalists:


Dear capitalist pigs&#33;
You idiots don&#39;t know what communist theory is realy about, it is where everyone has a house, workplace, free medicine etc... But you bastards are nothing but self absorbed rich spoiled yuppies, who want to build capitalism on the back of the working-class that are payid misserably.

We can&#39;t wait the day when all of you capitalist bastards will be rounded up and shot. I hope you pigs will choke on your rich capitalist dinners&#33;
POWER TO THE PEOPLE&#33;&#33;

Long live Great Comrades Marx, Engels, Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin&#33;

[Fawkes]

I registered as "G-D Fearing Patriot". I&#39;m pretending to be an ultra-christian fanatic who wants electric fences built on the border.

[Fawkes]

I&#39;m also now on DebatePolitics as Anarchy is Order.

[OneBrickOneVoice]

Originally posted by Freedom for [email protected] 01, 2006 09:40 pm
I&#39;m also now on DebatePolitics as Anarchy is Order.
good. soon we communists will take over all capitalist forums mwhahahhaha

[Fawkes]

^^^ Hell yeah, we should Double Team some of those Capitalist fucks.

[OneBrickOneVoice]

good idea. I&#39;ll find what topics you posted on. We should also contact Jhe.


BTW I posted again on capitalistforums. check it out before they get deleted.

[Red Party]

They banned me after I posted on the entire forum, hahahahaha&#33;

[Tower of Bebel]

That forum is nuts&#33;

[Freedom?]

aww for some reason i cant sign up. that really annoys me. :angry: when i do sign up, i&#39;ll be I TAKE STUPID PEOPLES &#036;&#036;&#036;

[Resistencia]

Me thinks we should all start spamming this thread:

http://capitalismforum.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=243

[Tower of Bebel]

Originally posted by [email protected] 03, 2007 10:39 am
Me thinks we should all start spamming this thread:

http://capitalismforum.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=243
That&#39;s sick (... the thread, not the spamming)&#33; Why is it that capitalists never want to make analyses? They try to match different (absurd) hypotheses and if it suites them well they&#39;ll take it for granted.

[Resistencia]

Is it just coincidence, or did you really subscribe to that forum recently? The forum says its newest member is Raccoon.

If so, give me a link to your posts. Just to see how cappies react to real socialist viewpoints

[Tower of Bebel]

Originally posted by [email protected] 03, 2007 11:16 am
Is it just coincidence, or did you really subscribe to that forum recently? The forum says its newest member is Raccoon.

If so, give me a link to your posts. Just to see how cappies react to real socialist viewpoints
I&#39;m not the type to bash people, I try some arguments and see how they react. I managed to divert them from socialism = self-esteem (in political forum) to &#39;is capitalism freedom or not&#39;?
I&#39;m not a good speaker, nor writer, but I&#39;m trying to see how these people react. So far some do well but unlike here most don&#39;t give good reasons why capitalism should be defended. No it&#39;s my turn to try to defend socialism without betraying myself :P

[Dimentio]

You are going to be fried. The best way is to attack their self-esteem, aka supreme_chairman on SoloHQ forums.

[Y Chwyldro Comiwnyddol Cymraeg]

Theres 3 people online now&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

[Tower of Bebel]

This is worser than I thought. They don&#39;t care about people, only about the money... there is like nobody who cares what I say: if the system runs it&#39;s okay...
I should start using theories and evidences against capitalism (problems with the market, the thread of revolution, the problem with accumulation of money). I still don&#39;t want to bash&#39;em... doesn&#39;t help at all...but ignoring them can. Well, at least they shoudl learn freedom isn&#39;t as easy to define as they think it is.. they&#39;re more thinking of the capitalist anarchy than real freedom.

[Tower of Bebel]

I got banned because I was only questioning what freedom was and because I compared freedom in a capitlaist system with freedom in a communist system without flaming, throlling, whatever... just because they were inable to give the right answers. Sick you know <_<

[StartToday]

Is anybody still trolling this site?? I just joined.

[atlas]

The reason why communism "failed" in practice, is because it is impractical, evil, and anti-life in theory.

oh my non-existant-jesus. rofl.

[StartToday]

Eh, they find some bullshit excuse every single time I point out the inefficiencies and injustices of capitalism. They are all blind. Furthermore, they are all probably business majors. After a lengthy argument, I just left this as a final reply:


Originally posted by IdeasAreBulletProof
Maybe you guys are right. It is I who was confused. But after reading these replies, I have changed my mind (quite) a bit on things. You see, I used to think (ever so foolishly) that 1% of the population owning 2/3 of the wealth was a just a bit ridiculous. :shock: But now... Well, I see things for what they are.

Fair. And balanced, too. We have a fair and balanced system. 8)

Thank you all for your replies. I will be picking up some Ayn Rand books this afternoon.

Yeah, I was being a smartass. I wouldn&#39;t touch a Rand book with a 39 and half foot pole.

[nightwatchman]

Did you see the thread in the politics section about how socialism and low self-estem are related, I think it was possiblely the dumbest discussion I have ever read.

[StartToday]

Yeah I seen that. They&#39;re all douches.