Communism and the Internet

[0NighT0]

I was wondering what some people's views were on whether the internet is helping or hindering the spread of communism. The answer would seem obvious, but the internet is by far the most powerful tool capitalists have ever had at their disposal. In retrospect, the internet is also a powerful tool for leftists to unite. If a global revolution was ever possible, would the internet be responsible for the rewriting of history?

[blueeyedboy]

OnighTO, I think the internet is extremely useful for promoting what we believe, but as you say, the Internet can foster pro-capitalism. What is good about it though is that we can hit more people than ever before with what we believe. For example, if a person finds communism or any leftist ideology curious, he/she can access the information quicker than having to plough through the local libary. Of course, it is the same with the right, but what I am promoting is the ACCESS of the information. We can gain more supporters for our cause, and tell people about the destroying effects of capitalism with more ease than ever before.

[LSD]

Beyond permitting rapid communication, what the internet does is make data so easy to replicate and transmit that it fatally undermines the capitalist principle of "intellectual property".

As such it helps to weaken the ideological pillars on which liberal capitalisms' legitimacy rests. Modern capitalism isn't just about rich investors making money, it's about convincing the rest of us that it's the "only option".

No one these days, save the most hardcore libertarian, really likes capitalism. It's flaws are just too blatantly obvious. But 100 years of propaganda have done a pretty decent job in entrentching this notion that no matter how awfull it may be, capitalisms nonetheless the "best option available".

And so the more that its axioms are demonstrated to be fallacious, the less believable that lie becomes. If data can be so freely shared, why not material things as well? Why not the entire economy itself?

That's why the capitalsits are so determined to find a way to hijack the internet back into their camp. That's why they're spending millions of dollars lobying governments and suing college students.

Luckily for us, however, the capitalist camp is anything but unified. Enough people are making money off of the deconstruction of "intellectual property" that the bourgeosie can't rally enough support to keep it afloat.

In the end, it can't help but collapse.

As the old expression goes, "when we hang them..." ;)

[which doctor]

Well, we are currently in the golden age of the internet, but that age is waning. Internet usage is widespread for nearly everyone in the first world. Data and information are available freely to nearly everyone with a connection. People can let their inhibitions go and be whoever they want to be on the internet. Ideas and opinions can be freely shared between people from around the world. Myths can be dispelled with the click of a button. A teacher can prove their history teacher wrong and find out the truth with a few keystrokes.

The internet is certainly an amazing place and a wonderful tool for the revolutionary.

[0NighT0]

Thanks for all the points of view, really interesting stuff. Somehow I see it probable that capitalists will soon control the internet. If this happens there is a strong possibility of an "underground" internet being born. This could be pretty interesting. Who knows, maybe in the future we will se a "peoples" revolution online?... just a thought :ph34r:

[Nex]

Being a computer networker by trade I can tell you it's not hard to set up a network off the net. It'd be relatively easy to set up a system of servers and domains with no connection to the internet as we know it today... actually several such networks already exist. The problem would be for a disspersed and persecuted group of leftists world wide to connect all their separate little nets into a cohesive whole, and protect it from being consumed by the forces attempting to take control of the internet now.

[blueeyedboy]

If the capitalists are trying to take control of the Internet, are they restricting free speech because it sounds as if that's what they are doing. I thought it was against the law to restrict free speech. Anyway, if that did happen there are other other wayd of passing on what we think.

Just a thought.

[0NighT0]

I would actually be interested to hear some comrades views on electronic piracy (games, music, movies etc) I am pro piracy all the way. Maybe when "pop" music and movies stop making capitalists ridiculous amounts of money then we will be left with the people that do it for the love of it and the real art will be separated from the mindless garb like paris hilton and teen romcom. Besides, rappers with no money will have more credibility&#33; <_<

[RevMARKSman]

Originally posted by [email protected] 01, 2006 12:51 am
I would actually be interested to hear some comrades views on electronic piracy (games, music, movies etc) I am pro piracy all the way. Maybe when "pop" music and movies stop making capitalists ridiculous amounts of money then we will be left with the people that do it for the love of it and the real art will be separated from the mindless garb like paris hilton and teen romcom. Besides, rappers with no money will have more credibility&#33; <_<
None of our active comrades would ever even support, let alone implement, such criminal activity. :angry: (VV&#33;N|< VV&#33;N|< |&#092;|V|>G|= |&#092;|V|>G|=)

[LSD]

I would actually be interested to hear some comrades views on electronic piracy (games, music, movies etc) I am pro piracy all the way.

I can&#39;t imagine that there&#39;s a single unrestricted member of this board who would disagree with you.