Non Exploitation Jobs

[SanPatricio'sSoul]

I'm curious I was just thinking, Is it really possible (especially in American society) to have a job that doesn't exploit people? Cause if you think about it even non capitalistic jobs (Or jobs that aren't apart of the whole Productions thing) still exploit people in a way. For example Teachers still exploit their students in a way because they teach them falsities and basically lie to them. Even if you work in Non-Profit corporations (which i'm planning on doing) you could end up screwing people if you lets say, pretty much mis-use millions of dollars that was given to you by the American Public (Red Cross). So do I have a point or am I just tlaking out of my ass?

Love,
Dave

[0NighT0]

In my opinion there really is no way in current society to exclude oneself completely from the circle of exploitation. Even if you are working at a non-profit organisation, the pc's your are working on, for example, were made by exploited factory workers and the money you paid for them is making a profit for the individual capitalists involved. Your intentions are good and the first step is being aware of the problem. Many people dont even consider the lives of anyone outside the spheres of there own social trees. Exploitation of the proleteriat will be evident in every aspect of life until the proper changes are made.

[Don't Change Your Name]

Originally posted by SanPatricio'sSoul+October 30, 2006 09:01 am--> (SanPatricio'sSoul @ October 30, 2006 09:01 am) For example Teachers still exploit their students in a way because they teach them falsities and basically lie to them. [/b]
Nonsense! Do professors who teach chemistry or constructions or maths "lie" to their students? And why "lying" = "exploiting"?


So do I have a point or am I just tlaking out of my ass?

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0NighT0
Even if you are working at a non-profit organisation, the pc's your are working on, for example, were made by exploited factory workers and the money you paid for them is making a profit for the individual capitalists involved.

That's ridiculous. If you don't buy those PCs then it's even worse for those factory workers.

[0NighT0]

I appreciate your comments, but I believe that sometimes things have to get worse for there to be a possibility of them getting better.

[BreadBros]

I'm curious I was just thinking, Is it really possible (especially in American society) to have a job that doesn't exploit people?

Well I would argue that for the most part the majority of proletariat jobs dont involve exploitation of others.


Cause if you think about it even non capitalistic jobs (Or jobs that aren't apart of the whole Productions thing) still exploit people in a way.

There aren't many (or any?) non-capitalist jobs I can think of. I assume your talking about people who work in offices or service industries? The service industry is still a part of production, it serves to distribute and market the goods. Similarly just because you are making intellectual commodities (that is, producing ideas that are used to create wealth) instead of material commodities does not meant you are not proletarian.


For example Teachers still exploit their students in a way because they teach them falsities and basically lie to them.

True, but I would argue that the exploitative and oppressive nature of formal education is on the part of the state or private entity that sets the curriculum and modicums of how to run a school. Teachers are variable, you can have really good teachers that teach valuable things and run their classrooms in democratic ways, or you can have total assholes, the kind Im sure weve all run into.


Even if you work in Non-Profit corporations (which i'm planning on doing) you could end up screwing people if you lets say, pretty much mis-use millions of dollars that was given to you by the American Public (Red Cross).

That is true, but thats not necessarily a part of exploitation inherent in the wage/market system. Its more just a result of ineffiency or mistakes.