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Anti-Capitalism
23rd October 2006, 19:47
The Soyuz succeeded the Voskhod spacecraft design
http://www.space-travel.com/images/iss-soyuz-11-spacecraft-bg.jpg
http://www.space-travel.com/reports/Statio..._Weeks_999.html (http://www.space-travel.com/reports/Station_Crews_Rotate_After_Hectic_Few_Weeks_999.ht ml)
The unmanned Progress spacecraft were derived from Soyuz and are used for servicing space stations, the Soyuz spacecraft may soon fly from French Guiana in South America.

The Buran spaceship, it flew into space once on an Energia rocket ( large heavy lift vehicle like a SaturnV) back in 1988, but after the fall of the USSR the program was cancelled in 1993.
http://img.stern.de/_content/53/02/530209/buran2_500_500.jpg
http://www.stern.de/wissenschaft/kosmos/:S...?eid=503388&s=5 (http://www.stern.de/wissenschaft/kosmos/:Space-Shuttle-Gef%E4hrliche-Mission/530209.html?eid=503388&s=5)

The latest spacecraft from Russia is the Klipper or Clipper
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/050816/050816_kliper_hmed.standard.jpg
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8235731/
The Kliper program was proposed as the Russian-European counterpart to the American Orion Spacecraft and was therefore designed (similar to the Orion) to be part of a modular system that enabled it to be both a LEO-shuttle type vehicle as well as part of a spacecraft able to go beyond Earth orbit to the Moon and even Mars


The People's Republic of China's (PRC) launched their first manned mission with Shenzhou 5
http://www.spacedaily.com/images/china-shenzhou-exhibit-bg.jpg
http://www.spacedaily.com/dragonspace.html
The spacecraft inspired by Russia's Soyuz design was launch by the Chinese Long March 2F rocket booster. Chinese are expanding their own space program may soon be sending robotic spacecraft to the Moon, Asteroids and Mars, perhaps the people living in the first Martian colony will speak Chinese and use a communist system of government ?

bezdomni
23rd October 2006, 23:21
The Klipper is to dammed small. Nobody likes it.

I'd kill myself before I went to mars on that thing. Not really, but you know what I mean.

Aeturnal Narcosis
27th October 2006, 18:23
I'd kill myself before I went to mars on that thing. Not really, but you know what I mean.

if you didn't kill yourself before the launch... the claustrophobia learned from a year or so of space travel would make you kill youself... or other members of the flight.

...

so anyway... you say a communist is manning a shuttle from russia?

i doubt it.

last i heard, they dissolved (and even outlawed) their communist party.

maybe if it was coming from china (who i hear plans to have a man on the moon within the next few decades or something, and a man on mars sooon thereafter)...

Rodack
4th November 2006, 22:53
Originally posted by Aeturnal [email protected] 27, 2006 05:23 pm

I'd kill myself before I went to mars on that thing. Not really, but you know what I mean.

if you didn't kill yourself before the launch... the claustrophobia learned from a year or so of space travel would make you kill youself... or other members of the flight.

...

so anyway... you say a communist is manning a shuttle from russia?

i doubt it.

last i heard, they dissolved (and even outlawed) their communist party.

maybe if it was coming from china (who i hear plans to have a man on the moon within the next few decades or something, and a man on mars sooon thereafter)...
Why was communism outlawed in a country that tried to impliment it, Comrades?

BreadBros
5th November 2006, 02:25
Because the implementation of it led to a multitude of problems that eventually led the USSR (which by then had lost all vestiges of socialism) to collapse. The current Russian state repudiates its Soviet past I guess. In a nutshell (this is a HUGE topic youre asking about, lol), if that is what you are asking about.

Rodack
5th November 2006, 16:14
Originally posted by [email protected] 05, 2006 02:25 am
Because the implementation of it led to a multitude of problems that eventually led the USSR (which by then had lost all vestiges of socialism) to collapse. The current Russian state repudiates its Soviet past I guess. In a nutshell (this is a HUGE topic youre asking about, lol), if that is what you are asking about.
Why did it go wrong, what could be done differently that could have brought the USSR a Perfect Workers Utopia?