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tecumseh
18th October 2006, 22:23
On the Amish shootings:
In the widespread coverage that followed these crimes, very little was made of the fact that only girls were targeted. Imagine if a gunman had gone into a school, separated the kids up on the basis of race or religion, and then shot only the black kids. Or only the white kids. Or only the Jews.

There would have been thunderous outrage. The country would have first recoiled in horror, and then mobilized in an effort to eradicate that kind of murderous bigotry. There would have been calls for action and reflection. And the attack would have been seen for what it really was: a hate crime.

None of that occurred because these were just girls, and we have become so accustomed to living in a society saturated with misogyny that violence against females is more or less to be expected. Stories about the rape, murder and mutilation of women and girls are staples of the news, as familiar to us as weather forecasts. The startling aspect of the Pennsylvania attack was that this terrible thing happened at a school in Amish country, not that it happened to girls.
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TC
18th October 2006, 22:49
actually if you read the news about it, the killer not only had the boys leave he also had the adult women leave with them, so making it out as a 'hate crime against women' wouldn't have made much sense as he was targeting young girls exclusively while avoiding women.

But anyways, i think the other reason is that the media probably assumed it was some perverse sexual thing rather than a politically motivated hate crime whereas if it had been black or jewish students it would be assumed to be a politically motivated hate crime rather than some perverse sexual serial killer thing.

Anyways there are uh, a lot of incidents of killers selectively killing men (who are btw, vastly more likely to be murdered than women), but those aren't made out to be hate crimes either. Like when American officers were ordering their soldiers to kill all male civilians in a village no one was talking about that as a hate crime against men.

Also i don't think anyone has worked the 'hate crime against amish' angle.

The Bitter Hippy
19th October 2006, 00:32
i think the fact that the school was the nearest school to the killer negates that. The killer didn't travel a distance to kill amish people specifically, he lived in a mixed amish-secular community, and the amish school was the easiest target.

Qwerty Dvorak
19th October 2006, 01:55
Originally posted by The Bitter [email protected] 18 2006, 11:32 PM
i think the fact that the school was the nearest school to the killer negates that. The killer didn't travel a distance to kill amish people specifically, he lived in a mixed amish-secular community, and the amish school was the easiest target.
I'd like you to source the claim that this killing was definitely not aimed at the Amish community.

Also, isn't it likely that the young girls were easier targets than adult women and young boys? I heard that he tied them up and lined them against a wall, before shooting them execution-style. If this is true, then it's possible that the boys would have put up a bigger struggle.