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Marxist-Anarchist
17th October 2006, 21:07
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bZ_x4Ktpdw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR7QHn21Rmc...related&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR7QHn21Rmc&mode=related&search=)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9-WcmWsAwU...related&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9-WcmWsAwU&mode=related&search=)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTipRevJjCY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZc0LrmWI7g&NR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0RqZYLhKAw&NR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kv3_ZyRoDek

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFUFl1vb3CE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSqqf4aDUY4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgQLCQ5f5Zw

*PRC*Kensei
17th October 2006, 21:11
cool !

reminds me of old IRA movies.

FriedFrog
17th October 2006, 21:21
Cool? :huh:

*PRC*Kensei
17th October 2006, 21:23
Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2006, 08:21 PM
Cool? :huh:
riots...stone trowing against imperialists... gerillia warfare... jep cool :)

Sugar Hill Kevis
17th October 2006, 21:25
the mujahideen are far from cool

*PRC*Kensei
17th October 2006, 21:27
well then it's just the fact that they make me think about similar old IRA movies :)

Marxist-Anarchist
17th October 2006, 21:30
It is not cool when ignorant members of the working class travel thousands of miles around the world to fall victims to imperialist lies and crimes. I do not rejoice over these deaths. The soldiers are victims of propaganda.

*PRC*Kensei
17th October 2006, 21:36
their soldiers. they kill & get killed. end o story.
If they did not intent to make war in the first place, they did not have to take bullets.
they elected bush.
their no "poor victims", they drive around in monsterious armed tanks fighting with full body armour against people with a handgun & just clothing.

you heard the men in the truck in the "troops get stoned" video ? "stop trowing stones and i may give you food, Muahahahaahahah"
those "poor" soldiers enjoy killing, otherwhise they would not be in the army.

do not mistake soldiers for workers.

Marxist-Anarchist
17th October 2006, 21:42
Originally posted by *PRC*[email protected] 17 2006, 08:36 PM
their soldiers. they kill & get killed. end o story.
If they did not intent to make war in the first place, they did not have to take bullets.
they elected bush.
their no "poor victims", they drive around in monsterious armed tanks fighting with full body armour against people with a handgun & just clothing.

you heard the men in the truck in the "troops get stoned" video ? "stop trowing stones and i may give you food, Muahahahaahahah"
those "poor" soldiers enjoy killing, otherwhise they would not be in the army.

do not mistake soldiers for workers.
But in the U.S. soldiers join the military due to the lack of good jobs. For them the military is the only way out. It starts in the schools with the glorification of the military and the U.S.

Solitary Mind
17th October 2006, 23:00
Soldiers might be machines of propaganda, but then again, so are most of the people in government, and many of us still want revolution. they may be victims of propaganda, but because of that, they are new people, and the people they are now is what matters..

Pirate Utopian
18th October 2006, 15:08
the comments on the 4th link are too stupid sometimes

heartlessabyss (2 weeks ago)
I just wish everyone who hated our president, country and military would be arrested and sent to Iraq so we could just blow the shit out of the whole country and our troops could come home and idiot potsmoking college students who think they know a little something about life and think the ragheads are nice could all die with one bomb. If you hate america get the fuck out cause we hate you too.
:rolleyes:

junior400 (4 months ago)
Id like to see Americans ambushing Insurgents, now that would be cool
<_<
some kid said

anthonyq55 (3 months ago)
Nice&#33; US soldiers ain&#39;t safe anywhere they go.
some reactions were

Znake01 (3 months ago)
Wtf Anthony, you think it is nice that us troops aint safe...Fuck you asshole
or even better

Alphawolfgang (3 months ago)
anthony needs to be taken into custody by the US government, or killed by angry americans... i vote for him to be killed&#33;
;)

thank god christian americans always show their respect for other cultures

fireusaf60 (1 week ago)
Yeah, this coming from the man whose "peaceful religion" means enslaving its women, rioting across Europe, wishing death on all non-muslims, and actually believing this serves the cause of a benevolent god&#33;&#33;&#33; Wake up and smell the camel shit, pig fucker. You live a lie every day you spend on this earth. Have a nice day

ao430 (1 week ago)
fuckin shit arabs
<_<

izquierda80
18th October 2006, 18:38
Originally posted by Marxist&#045;[email protected] 17 2006, 08:42 PM
But in the U.S. soldiers join the military due to the lack of good jobs. For them the military is the only way out. It starts in the schools with the glorification of the military and the U.S.

This is usually very true globally, not only in the U.S.

Any actively operating military force in the world, as a whole, is inherently meant to be a killing machine, but the individual people that make up this machine are humans, many of them proletarian or working class in general, and are therefore susceptible to propaganda, simple desperation due to unemployment (or underemployment), and even merely peer pressure.

Not all of them are willing "Rambo"-types that enjoy butchering defenseless people, although some of them clearly do end up that way, due to the dehumanizing nature of training and warfare. Others, however, come to reject and loathe the very actions of the military force that they belong to.

As such, I think that condemning and mocking the U.S. military war machine and the system that created it is justified, and so is the existence and struggle of the forces that legitimately oppose U.S. interventionism and imperialism, but the death of individual U.S. soldiers per se is not something to be automatically glorified (unless it is clear that specific soldiers deserve it due to their barbarism and other abuses).

Their deaths may still be the legitimate result of their own actions and that of their imperialistic government, but they don&#39;t need to be sadistically mocked, since a number of them are also victims of capitalism, in their own way.

I don&#39;t expect all revolutionaries to share this point of view, of course, but that&#39;s how I personally think.

Hit The North
19th October 2006, 00:01
I&#39;d just like to state a coupla obvious things at this juncture:

1) Down with American militarism&#33;

and

2) Every dead American (and British) soldier is a blow struck against Imperialism.

Cheers.

izquierda80
19th October 2006, 01:38
Originally posted by Citizen [email protected] 18 2006, 11:01 PM
I&#39;d just like to state a coupla obvious things at this juncture:

1) Down with American militarism&#33;

and

2) Every dead American (and British) soldier is a blow struck against Imperialism.

Cheers.
1)Agreed.

2)Indeed, but merely tactical blows.

Imperialism as a strategy of the ruling classes was not defeated despite the very high number of U.S. casualties in Vietnam, and a high death toll for U.S. soldiers in Iraq won&#39;t change that either.

It will only temporarily make imperialists back off from their most direct forms of military intervention and exploitation, but that will not last forever.

Sooner or later, once time passes and conditions allow it, new wars and new ambitions will show up, or old ones may take the center stage once again. That cycle will probably continue as long as capitalism and imperialism exist and are active on the world stage.

And again, as said, I think that those deaths, while logical and necessary as part of the legitimate struggle against imperialism, don&#39;t need to be sadistically celebrated on an individual basis ("Oh, they cut off the head of a random U.S. serviceman and paraded it around, I&#39;m happy, happy, blood, blood, joy, joy&#33;").

Violence is arguably necessary (during armed revolutions, struggles against imperialism, etc.), but it should not become an inherently beautiful thing, because it ain&#39;t (not saying that the comrades here see it as "beautiful", but criticizing the generic possibility of it).

OneBrickOneVoice
19th October 2006, 02:44
Guerilla against soldier is justified. Guerilla against civilian is not. What we&#39;re seeing in Iraq is suicide bombings against civilians which cannot in anyway be seen in any other way than pure disgusting.

bezdomni
23rd October 2006, 02:58
Youtube videos?

Those certainly exist in America.

*PRC*Kensei
24th October 2006, 11:03
Originally posted by [email protected] 23, 2006 01:58 am
Youtube videos?

Those certainly exist in America.
he means the governement gives all news accept this kind of news.