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which doctor
16th October 2006, 03:59
SACRAMENTO, CALIF. — Upset by the war in Iraq, Julia Wilson vented her frustrations with President Bush last spring on her Web page on MySpace.com.

She posted a picture of the president, scrawled "Kill Bush" across the top and drew a dagger stabbing his outstretched hand. She later replaced her page on the social-networking site after learning in her eighth-grade history class that such threats are a federal offense.

It was too late.

Federal authorities had found the page and placed Wilson on their checklist. They finally reached her this week in her molecular biology class.

The 14-year-old freshman was taken out of class Wednesday and questioned for about 15 minutes by two Secret Service agents. The incident has upset her parents, who said the agents should have included them when they questioned their daughter.

On Friday, the teenager said the agents' questioning brought her to tears.

"I wasn't dangerous. I mean, look at what's (stenciled) on my backpack — it's a heart. I'm a very peace-loving person," said Wilson, an honor student who describes herself as politically passionate. "I'm against the war in Iraq. I'm not going to kill the president."

Her mother, Kirstie Wilson, said two agents showed up at the family's home Wednesday afternoon, questioned her and promised to return once her daughter was home from school.

After they left, Kirstie Wilson sent a text message to her daughter's cell phone, telling her to come straight home: "There are two men from the secret service that want to talk with you. Apparently you made some death threats against president bush."

"Are you serious!?!? omg. Am I in a lot of trouble?" her daughter responded.

Moments later, Kirstie Wilson received another text message from her daughter saying agents had pulled her out of class.

Spokesmen for the Secret Service in Sacramento and Washington, D.C., said they could not comment on the case.

Wilson and her parents said the agents were justified in questioning her about her MySpace.com posting. But they said they think agents went too far by not waiting until she was out of school.

They also said the agents should have more quickly figured out they weren't dealing with a real danger. Ultimately, the agents said they would delete their file on the teen.


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/4259886.html

Janus
16th October 2006, 10:26
Stabbing someone's hand is a death threat? :lol:

This is ridiculous but it shows just how you need to be cautious concerning such things partiularly on Myspace.

loveme4whoiam
16th October 2006, 12:21
Indeed, totally ridiculous, and evidence of just how screwed up the administration's priorities are. Combating the problems the working class and poor of the US face? Pah, that pales in comparison to a 14-yr old drawing a picture of the President being stabbing in the hand! :wacko:

Tekun
16th October 2006, 12:36
Everything's a threat nowadays to the imperialists...didn't she have the right to refuse or have her lawyer present? Nevermind, I forgot about all the new "Anti-terror laws" that barr "subversive activity" :rolleyes:

which doctor
17th October 2006, 01:54
anyone who considers a little girl a threat to national security needs to get their head on straight

izquierda80
17th October 2006, 02:01
While the drawing was a bit inappropiate (killing GWB is not a real possibility since he's one of the most guarded individuals in the face of the planet, and it could bring even more harm than good, as an excuse for further U.S. Patriot Acts and so on), the reaction from the U.S. Secret Service was totally paranoid, intolerant and completely out of context. There was no danger there.

Cooler Reds Will Prevail
17th October 2006, 08:29
lmao, i'm from sacramento.... surprised they never got me, i've said worse shit online at an older age, and i suppose i'm little more "dangerous" and "subversive" than she is lmao.. any info as to what school it was?

anarchist_utopia
17th October 2006, 15:57
C'mon, seriously. Everything is taken way too seriously these days. you can't get on a plane without someone thinking you have a bomb in your shoe. you can't post an innocent message on myspace. if it's YOUR opinion. what happened to freedom of speech???

Sadena Meti
17th October 2006, 17:00
It has always been a crime in the US to threaten the president, and most government officials. Plus, any threat of death or violence against anyone is a crime, but a much less one. Obviously, police rarely bother enforcing that law to the letter because just think how many times a day "i'm going to kill you" is spoken in bars.

FriedFrog
17th October 2006, 17:08
I remember the same happened to a kid who had PLO (or EZLN, i can't remember) written on his pencil case. He was still in high school, I think around the same age as the girl.

It's just plain silly, really. Bet the FBI agents felt stupid.

Red Flag
17th October 2006, 17:17
Still not as grand as the Secret Service (SS) visiting a high schooler after he took a roll of film to get developed at walmart! the roll had pictures in it for a project on freedom of speech - he took a magazine picture of Bush and pushed a thumb tack through it (on Bush's forehead) - the walmary worker snitched and they came!

TC
17th October 2006, 18:34
really it uses the guise of following up on "death threats" (when they are clearly not in the least bit credible threats or intended to be taken as credible threats) to justify thought-police enforcement of an untouchable regard for the presidency.

Incidentally i knew someone in highschool who was harrassed by the secret service for an even less credible "threat" made online.

Sadena Meti
17th October 2006, 19:08
On the bright side, if she chances to develope into a revolutionary and join the movement, she'll have great bragging rights. "The SS came after me when I was 13!"



Hmm... I wonder what would happen if I started handing out "Bill Kush" bumperstickers at the co-op :)

Nothing Human Is Alien
17th October 2006, 19:32
I know someone who was visited during Clinton's reign, when they were only a child, over something they said at school.

Jazzratt
17th October 2006, 21:09
Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2006, 02:59 AM
Wilson and her parents said the agents were justified in questioning her about her MySpace.com posting. But they said they think agents went too far by not waiting until she was out of school.
What in fuck's name is this? "It's okay to question obviously innocent people, as long as you do it outside school?" I mean for fuck's sake. It may seem paranoid, but aI think they may have been 'asked' to say this.

Sadena Meti
17th October 2006, 21:24
Originally posted by Jazzratt+Oct 17 2006, 03:09 PM--> (Jazzratt @ Oct 17 2006, 03:09 PM)
[email protected] 16 2006, 02:59 AM
Wilson and her parents said the agents were justified in questioning her about her MySpace.com posting. But they said they think agents went too far by not waiting until she was out of school.
What in fuck's name is this? "It's okay to question obviously innocent people, as long as you do it outside school?" I mean for fuck's sake. It may seem paranoid, but aI think they may have been 'asked' to say this. [/b]
This may have to do with the fact that law enforcement is not supposed to question minors without their parents present. Happened to me in eigth grade, police were investigating a B&E, took some of us out of class, questioned us one by one without parents or even school staff present.

which doctor
17th October 2006, 21:56
Originally posted by I chicorazon [email protected] 17 2006, 02:29 AM
lmao, i'm from sacramento.... surprised they never got me, i've said worse shit online at an older age, and i suppose i'm little more "dangerous" and "subversive" than she is lmao.. any info as to what school it was?
C.K. McClatchy High School

OneBrickOneVoice
18th October 2006, 02:11
lol... I love the part where shes like "really I'm a peace loving person, see the heart on my back" lol

OneBrickOneVoice
18th October 2006, 02:12
lol... I love the part where shes like "really I'm a peace loving person, see the heart on my back" lol

Esplin
18th October 2006, 11:00
Completely and utterly unacceptable. Don't those agents have anything better to do? The american goverment should really consider what truly consituties as legitimate death threats, considering such factors as....who is responsible for it?
seriously this is truly ametur.

Rollo
18th October 2006, 11:06
If they chased up every person who did that we'de all know every agent in the secret service. I mean who hasn't thought about physically harming bush?

Sadena Meti
18th October 2006, 15:45
Originally posted by [email protected] 18 2006, 05:06 AM
If they chased up every person who did that we'de all know every agent in the secret service. I mean who hasn't thought about physically harming bush?
Very true. Trying to get through 24 hours without thinking of harming politicians is like trying to go a day without wondering what Buffy looks like naked.

Jazzratt
18th October 2006, 16:04
Originally posted by rev-stoic+Oct 18 2006, 02:45 PM--> (rev-stoic @ Oct 18 2006, 02:45 PM)
[email protected] 18 2006, 05:06 AM
If they chased up every person who did that we'de all know every agent in the secret service. I mean who hasn't thought about physically harming bush?
Very true. Trying to get through 24 hours without thinking of harming politicians is like trying to go a day without wondering what Buffy looks like naked. [/b]
What? Piss easy? On a more serious note, every minute they spend wasting time on crap like this is a aminute spent doing nothing useful.

Pirate Utopian
18th October 2006, 16:18
maybe it would be smart to put my Gut Cheney shirt away for a while

Rollo
18th October 2006, 17:01
I was once asked to remove a shirt depictin hitler blowing his brains out at an airport. It all makes sense now.

Political_Chucky
23rd October 2006, 06:55
Originally posted by Red [email protected] 17, 2006 09:17 am
Still not as grand as the Secret Service (SS) visiting a high schooler after he took a roll of film to get developed at walmart! the roll had pictures in it for a project on freedom of speech - he took a magazine picture of Bush and pushed a thumb tack through it (on Bush's forehead) - the walmary worker snitched and they came!
LOL that shit had me crackin up

ComradeR
23rd October 2006, 10:48
This shit has police state written all over it. Funny how capitalists condemn communists saying that were totalitarians, when they are the ones who have a dictatorship disguised has a free democracy.

Don't Change Your Name
23rd October 2006, 16:26
...or maybe you people are exagerating even more than these agents...

namvet527
24th October 2006, 20:40
8th grade mental midget probably has mental midget LIBERAL parents. They all should be jailed.

KKKlinton got all bent out of shape just being asked why he allowed N. Korea to get nukes. SICK WILLIE KKKintoon cried like a little baby on TV. What pants wetting little baby he is. I laughed at SICKO WILLIE crying on TV.

If this would have been an 8th grade Christian girl you demonic perverted immoral delirious & delusional LIBERAL HYPOCRITES would have been all over yourselves demanding something be done to her.

LIBERALS are full of HYPOCRISY & DOUDBLE STANDARDS.

All our founders were Christian or Christian believing men that prayed to GOD. Their quotes regarding their beliefs in GOD are etched in marble in Wash. DC. None were atheists.

You liberal COWARDS can shell it out but can't take it in return. You whine like 2 month old babies. LIBERALS try to ban and DO DENY FREE SPEACH rights to Christians & conservatives.

You liberals can't take the TRUTH about your evil demented selves.

Now I will be probably be banned cuz some libpuke will wet their panties and whine and tattle to the staff.

This just proves my point. HA HA HA

RedCommieBear
24th October 2006, 22:04
Originally posted by [email protected] 24, 2006 07:40 pm
All our founders were Christian or Christian believing men that prayed to GOD. Their quotes regarding their beliefs in GOD are etched in marble in Wash. DC. None were atheists.
Actually, Thomas Jefferson was a deist and didn't believe that Christ was the son of god.

Sadena Meti
24th October 2006, 22:18
Originally posted by Red Tendency+October 24, 2006 04:04 pm--> (Red Tendency @ October 24, 2006 04:04 pm)
[email protected] 24, 2006 07:40 pm
All our founders were Christian or Christian believing men that prayed to GOD. Their quotes regarding their beliefs in GOD are etched in marble in Wash. DC. None were atheists.
Actually, Thomas Jefferson was a deist and didn't believe that Christ was the son of god. [/b]
Several of the founding fathers were deists. I seem to recall that Lincoln was as well.

Entrails Konfetti
24th October 2006, 22:20
Petty thuggery:
"You better not post mean thingies about our friend Georgie on your myspace page!"

This is YOUR government at work USA!


This just proves my point. HA HA HA

That, or your a complete dork who doesn't know what they are talking about.
I doubt you are really a nam vet, they know how to spell.

By the way nice sentance fragments. Did you eat lead paint as a kid?
I bet you didn't just eat lead paint, I bet your parents bathed you in lead paint!
Shit man, your mommy probably mixed crack, steroids, and lead paint and injected that into your blood stream!

Ontop of that your daddy probably did alot of LSD so you came out goofy-looking!