hardcore...or not

[Ian]

fuck popping and lockin, learn how to stage dive http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62MKCA4IFdc

[Zero]

Holy shit, that looks like they're trying to kill the people in the first five rows.

Besides, Screamo = Fail.

[Ian]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2006, 09:21 AM
Holy shit, that looks like they're trying to kill the people in the first five rows.

Besides, Screamo = Fail.
what are you talking about? That is hardcore.

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

What the fuck? That's not hardcore. :rolleyes:

[Ian]

are you kidding?

anyone who says strife aren't hardcore are idiots.

[An archist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2006, 10:59 PM
fuck popping and lockin, learn how to stage dive http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62MKCA4IFdc
Learn how to stagedive?
what's so hard about stagediving?

EDIT: and yeah, that's definitely hardcore.

[Zero]

Thats not hardcore, thats just screaming incoherently into a microphone with death metal base and guitar.

Rob Zombie is hardcore. If you want to make rock music then you have to have a coherent beat, and a worthwhile voice singing style. Screaming shit into a microphone is just immature blathering to a beat.

Though his new stuff is kinda a let-down... like Foxy Foxy :rolleyes: . Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgWCarLULpE) is an example, excuse the rampent Nationalism.

[Ian]

you have absolutely no clue about music comrade.

Hardcore is a specific genre which certainly does not contain rob zombie.

[Zero]

Whatever. I don't care about the generes of screaming shit, that aint music.

[YSR]

It's not "screaming shit," it's hardcore. It's punk.

Whether or not you like doesn't make it "screamo," which is a label you use without any idea what it means.

Christ, and I'm not even a big hardcore fan.

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

It's hardcore punk, not hardcore.

[which doctor]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2006, 05:25 AM
Hardcore is a specific genre which certainly does not contain rob zombie.
Totally agreed.

[Ian]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2006, 01:29 AM
It's hardcore punk, not hardcore.
wrong again. it's just plain hardcore and has been called that since at least 1980. people add the 'punk' bit when they want to avoid confusion around idiots.

[Comeback Kid]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bt2mcrQ_O4...related&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bt2mcrQ_O4&mode=related&search=)
Comeback Kid - tops Canadian punk band
There are some sweet stages dives in the vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVoktU3zURw
American Hardcore. what it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqiE3kv9Ces
Sweet pit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju4DBK_71JQ
Black Flag.

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

That may be what punk kids call hardcore, but hardcore is an electric genre that sounds nothing like "hardcore punk". Hellfish, for example, is hardcore/darkcore.

[loveme4whoiam]

That's some funny shit - the guy doing the sumosault into the crowd should be battered for that :P

As for whether hardcore vs. not, frankly it just sounded like shite to me. Which doesn't help the conversation, but makes me feel better :D

[Ian]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2006, 05:43 AM
That may be what punk kids call hardcore, but hardcore is an electric genre that sounds nothing like "hardcore punk". Hellfish, for example, is hardcore/darkcore.
everyone knows about hardcore dance, and that variety of 'hardcore' is newer and shit with nothing hard about it, does anyone even get hurt except when they OD? real rugged broseph. haha.

Hardcore= Minor Threat
Hardcore Rap= Wu Tang Clan
Happy Hardcore= Some bald loser off his tits on pills

[Rollo]

Method man kicks ass.

[Ian]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2006, 07:52 PM
Chokehold kicks ass.
yup

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

It's not hardcore dance. And since when do people have to get hurt before you're allowes to call it hardcore?

I agree on happy hardcore though, it sucks.

[Ian]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2006, 09:01 PM
It's not hardcore dance. And since when do people have to get hurt before you're allowes to call it hardcore?

I agree on happy hardcore though, it sucks.
no one has to be hurt, but it actually has to make sense to call it 'hardcore'. There is nothing hard either physically or intellectually about raving to horrible music. Why called something that emerged in the early to mide 90s hardcore when it just horrid dance parties and when a long establish genre had existed for nearly 15 years prior to that electronic shit.

Real Hardcore means far more than some rich kids who dance all night under the influence of drugs, Hardcore is by its very nature a left-wing genre of music where people have a say and make a stand against the outside world. Don't try talk shit on what is a worldwide scene of kids with a million times more intestinal fortitude than those who take the safe options in life and hang at clubs.

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

Right, because hardcore really is a genre full of rich kids going to clubs.

:rolleyes:

[Ian]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2006, 09:45 PM
Right, because hardcore really is a genre full of rich kids going to clubs.

:rolleyes:
You saying that the majority aren't collar popped fuckbags wearing massive pants and sniffing coke? You're dreaming.

I went to school with a girl who thought she was some authority on this dance music rubbish and she condeded in a similar debate its primarily just rich kids.

Never thought I'd use the word in music forum but I'd say it but continually calling this useless dance music genre 'hardcore' is nothing but anti-historicity in the face of a music form which predates this dance shit by over a decade.


Have you ever prayed to the night sky?
Under one of them cold street lights?
Watched another stolen car drive then lose your hope and say "This is where I'll die"?

But you try to say you know me.
But you try to say you're from my world.
Well, have you ever gone to sleep to the sounds of the gunshots, sirens, and violence all alone?

They want to break me down. I hope I can hold my ground.

Your world is MTV. Spring breaks and ecstasy.
You got your hopes and you'll get your dreams.
Well, that choice wasn't there for me.

My world remains unseen by you.
Poverty and no family,
Broken homes and broken dreams,
I fall upon the thorns of life. I bleed.

They want to break me down. I won't back down.
They try to break me down. I hope I can hold my ground.

I ain't I your kind of white. I ain't that kind of white.
I'll never be your kind of white, I'll never be your kind 'cause you made me outcast.

I ain't your kind of white. I've never been your kind of white.
I ain't that kind of white 'cause I'm a lowlife outcast piece of white trash.

Five years on down the road (you've got) two kids and a high paying job,
(with a) picket fence and a college degree.
Well, that choice wasn't there for me.

This path on which I walk: it ain't a game and it ain't all talk.
This is all I ever had.
This is all they ever let me have.

I ain't ever been nor will I ever be another blind eye in society.
I seen the way it was for the people like me.
I seen the way it was for the families so...

Have you ever prayed to the night sky?
Under one of them cold street lights?
Watched another stolen car drive by and lost your hope and said "This is where I'll die"?

I ain't I your kind of white. I ain't that kind of white.
I'll never be your kind of white, I'll never be your kind 'cause you made me outcast.

I ain't your kind of white. I've never been your kind of white.
I ain't that kind of white 'cause I'm a lowlife outcast piece of white trash.

[DM.]

Originally posted by Ian+Oct 11 2006, 12:02 PM--> (Ian @ Oct 11 2006, 12:02 PM)
[email protected] 11 2006, 09:45 PM
Right, because hardcore really is a genre full of rich kids going to clubs.

:rolleyes:
You saying that the majority aren't collar popped fuckbags wearing massive pants and sniffing coke? You're dreaming.

I went to school with a girl who thought she was some authority on this dance music rubbish and she condeded in a similar debate its primarily just rich kids.

Never thought I'd use the word in music forum but I'd say it but continually calling this useless dance music genre 'hardcore' is nothing but anti-historicity in the face of a music form which predates this dance shit by over a decade. [/b]
No dude, you're just thinking with stereotypes.
You don't have to be rich, or on speed to like hardcore, it's not all happy tunes and repeating beats and there is no reason to disrespect the scene or the music.

[kaaos_af]

Stage diving is for wimps and perverts. Go slam-dancing! I've fractured quite a few bones doin' that. Up th punx

[Rollo]

I maintain my statement that dancing like the cossacks is the most awesome form of dancing.

[Ian]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2006, 10:23 PM
No dude, you're just thinking with stereotypes.
You don't have to be rich, or on speed to like hardcore, it's not all happy tunes and repeating beats and there is no reason to disrespect the scene or the music.
Dammit, are you slow? how many posts do I have to make before you stop calling it HARDCORE, it's not hardcore in the slightest, that word and genre is taken, give it up. It is soft as shit kids bouncing about to dodgy beats, I don't care to be respectful to this rubbish stand-for-nothing music, especially when such contempt is shown to what is such a big part of my life by using the word hardcore as if it actually applies to the rave culture. Get a new word, get a voice and a message that isn't high pitched and vacuous, then maybe I will eat my words and respect your so called scene of like minded morons.

[DM.]

Originally posted by Ian+Oct 11 2006, 12:34 PM--> (Ian @ Oct 11 2006, 12:34 PM)
[email protected] 11 2006, 10:23 PM
No dude, you're just thinking with stereotypes.
You don't have to be rich, or on speed to like hardcore, it's not all happy tunes and repeating beats and there is no reason to disrespect the scene or the music.
Dammit, are you slow? how many posts do I have to make before you stop calling it HARDCORE, it's not hardcore in the slightest, that word and genre is taken, give it up. It is soft as shit kids bouncing about to dodgy beats, I don't care to be respectful to this rubbish stand-for-nothing music, especially when such contempt is shown to what is such a big part of my life by using the word hardcore as if it actually applies to the rave culture. Get a new word, get a voice and a message that isn't high pitched and vacuous, then maybe I will eat my words and respect your so called scene of like minded morons. [/b]
Dude, first of all, drop the damn stereotypes. Second of all, Hardcore is called Hardcore because it's a extreme loud and hard genre of music. For the same reason hard pornography is called hardcore-porn. Offcourse this music has no message, just like almost every other form of electronic music, but it's for entertainment. It's not like we're always on dope, always listening to "meaningless" music and only think about partys. Yes in the mid 90's the scene got overhyped, there was such thing as happy hardcore and yes there were lot's of bald-shaved idiots listening to that horrible music. This caused the scene to collapse. Only few who truly loved the music kept the scene aliva, and for now, several years later, the music has grown in many different ways.
Although it has no message, the music is a form or art, I find myself more chilling on Hardcore then dancing on hardcore.

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2006, 01:02 PM
You saying that the majority aren't collar popped fuckbags wearing massive pants and sniffing coke?
Yes, that is what I'm saying, and if you think that is the majority, you know fuck all about the scene.


I went to school with a girl who thought she was some authority on this dance music rubbish and she condeded in a similar debate its primarily just rich kids.
So you'll believe any kid claiming she know everything about it and goes on telling you it's all rich kids? You must be evry gullible then.


Never thought I'd use the word in music forum but I'd say it but continually calling this useless dance music genre 'hardcore' is nothing but anti-historicity in the face of a music form which predates this dance shit by over a decade.
It's not even dance. :lol:

You show how you don't know shit about the entire hardcore scene (the real hardcore, that is), yet you continue to attack it, calling it shit and saying it's all rich kids on coke?
Gimme a break :rolleyes:

[RevSouth]

Anyone heard The Number Twelve Looks like You's version of My Sharona? The fucking stuff. Don't know if it is harcore or whatever. But I like it.

[Ian]

STOP SAYING ITS THE REAL HARDCORE, IT'S NOT.

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2006, 11:20 PM
STOP SAYING ITS THE REAL HARDCORE, IT'S NOT.


Agreed!! This has been pissing me off too, there should be another name for crappy electronic music.

Machines ain't music!
To paraphrase Mojo Nixon:
"You can call it what you like but its all just electronic, its all just disco and disco sure does suck!"

[Rollo]

Disco gives me genital herpes.

[DM.]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2006, 11:20 PM
STOP SAYING ITS THE REAL HARDCORE, IT'S NOT.
Nobody is saying that except you.

You guys need to stop being so narrow-minded about electronic music in general. There's no need for some sort of hate between hardcore (dance) and hardcore (punk) because is has the same name. Live and let live.

[Ian]

Originally posted by DM.+Oct 12 2006, 04:39 PM--> (DM. @ Oct 12 2006, 04:39 PM)
[email protected] 11 2006, 11:20 PM
STOP SAYING ITS THE REAL HARDCORE, IT'S NOT.
Nobody is saying that except you.

You guys need to stop being so narrow-minded about electronic music in general. There's no need for some sort of hate between hardcore (dance) and hardcore (punk) because is has the same name. Live and let live. [/b]
Celtic punk just quoted me and agreed

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

Right, electronic music is not music. :rolleyes:

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2006, 12:12 PM
Right, electronic music is not music.
Yes! Nice to see you coming around.

[captain donald]

first of all as a member of a hardcore PUNK band...(such as minor threat, black flag NOT in the essence of strife and madball) i am deeply offended to say that we are all on drugs and we are rich kids, we make fun of the kids at our shows who go and do there coke and heroine in the parking lot becuase they are not progressive in any way and dont care about a political message. secondly it is very much music and i wanna see anyone who says it isnt try is like spitting on me as a musician.



preach preach preach to me
dollar bills is all you see
christian church a corporation
no god dam exxageration

sell sell sell to me
all you want is my money
stained glass never fed the poor
still still still want more


and no one ever fights invisible ninjas at our shows, cuase they would most likely get hit back by someone, if not us. :lol:

[The Grey Blur]

Well, completely misunderstanding the argument is one way to kill a thread...

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

Originally posted by celtopunk+Oct 12 2006, 02:00 PM--> (celtopunk @ Oct 12 2006, 02:00 PM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2006, 12:12 PM
Right, electronic music is not music.
Yes! Nice to see you coming around. [/b]
I had somewhat expected you to come up with that :rolleyes:


captain donald
first of all as a member of a hardcore PUNK band...(such as minor threat, black flag NOT in the essence of strife and madball) i am deeply offended to say that we are all on drugs and we are rich kids, we make fun of the kids at our shows who go and do there coke and heroine in the parking lot becuase they are not progressive in any way and dont care about a political message. secondly it is very much music and i wanna see anyone who says it isnt try is like spitting on me as a musician.
No, they're saying that about electronic hardcore, not hardcore punk.

[dannie]

Though his new stuff is kinda a let-down... like Foxy Foxy rolleyes.gif . Here is an example, excuse the rampent Nationalism.

That's poprock or somehting, reminds me of hard rock halleluja, you might just as wel say simple plan is punk.

[Invader Zim]

I find both tedious in the extreme.



No, they're saying that about electronic hardcore, not hardcore punk.

E is more common at raves, than coke is.

[The Grey Blur]

Originally posted by Invader [email protected] 12 2006, 05:41 PM
I find both tedious in the extreme.
Says the man who listens to the most boring, middle-of-the-road music ever

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

Originally posted by Invader [email protected] 12 2006, 06:41 PM


No, they're saying that about electronic hardcore, not hardcore punk.

E is more common at raves, than coke is.
I know, why were you quoting me for that... ?

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by s3rna+Oct 12 2006, 07:29 PM--> (s3rna @ Oct 12 2006, 07:29 PM)
Invader [email protected] 12 2006, 06:41 PM


No, they're saying that about electronic hardcore, not hardcore punk.

E is more common at raves, than coke is.
I know, why were you quoting me for that... ? [/b]
I origionally replied to what you said, then changed my mind (deciding my responce was irrelevent), but kept the second part of my post.



Says the man who listens to the most boring, middle-of-the-road music ever

Hmm, Porcupine Tree and Aphex Twin middle of the road? Boring to you perhaps, but hardly middle of the road. 'Come to Daddy' or Voyage 34 aren't exactly going to come up on a Bing Crosby LP.

But in fairness its called 'opinion'; what you find boring is just for you. But what do you listen to? Noise like Merzbow?

Now I am going to be boring and middle of the road and listen to some Oasis, but I'll take that over gaba.

[Little brother]

As a fan of hardcore i am also deeply offended as the genre being dubbed as "not music"
Thats crap.
Infact saying that a style of music isn't music is crap.
If it has rythm, beat, SOUND then it is music.
Actually the style of sing vocalists use in hardcore/screamo, ie. the "screaming" is something that is really really quite hard to get right, it is something that not anyone can do and to actually do it with skill is very very hard and takes extensive vocal training. Ask any decent vocalist.
To anyone who is interested in the genre check out the stuff coming out of Australia right now.

[Ian]

Originally posted by Little [email protected] 13 2006, 11:01 PM
As a fan of hardcore i am also deeply offended as the genre being dubbed as "not music"
Thats crap.
Infact saying that a style of music isn't music is crap.
If it has rythm, beat, SOUND then it is music.
Actually the style of sing vocalists use in hardcore/screamo, ie. the "screaming" is something that is really really quite hard to get right, it is something that not anyone can do and to actually do it with skill is very very hard and takes extensive vocal training. Ask any decent vocalist.
To anyone who is interested in the genre check out the stuff coming out of Australia right now.
English isn't your first language is it?

[Little brother]

English isn't your first language is it?

I still don't see the relevance in this statement

[The Grey Blur]

Originally posted by Little [email protected] 13 2006, 02:08 PM

English isn't your first language is it?

I still don't see the relevance in this statement
Read the thread again, Ian said 'Hardcore Dance' wasn't music, not Hardcore Punk

[nerifr]

its not hardcore but its good!

[Comeback Kid]

Fuckin dance shit, I really see no difference between pop music and the souless computerized shit that is house, happy hardcore, trance ect ect ect.

Ian gets fuckin post of the year award for quoting Blood For Blood.

Agnostic Front - Hardcore (The Definintion!)

I won't live your lies
And I won't follow- It's my life!

Dissident towards the world
Our movement unconvinced
Of what has been force fed
Confronting all those who oppose
The definition of how we live!

Our way, our life, our scene
The definition!

Expression of how we live
Not following anyone's lies
Uncertain of the changing times
But we strive on to fight another day
The definition and what it means to me!

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

What the fuck? We're not talking about happy hardcore, we're talking about hardcore (the electronic kind). Happy hardcore is completely ridiculous bullshit. Trance, I don't like it but whatever.

And about house you're just plain fucking wrong. Or, as Eddie Amador put's it in "House mucic": "Not everyone understands house music, it's a spiritual thing."

[Invader Zim]

When i think of hardcore in terms of dance I think of gabber.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-363347492636892304

Some of it, especially the more underground stuff makes Crass look like Blink 182.

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

Originally posted by Invader [email protected] 14 2006, 10:33 PM
When i think of hardcore in terms of dance I think of gabber.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-363347492636892304

Some of it, especially the more underground stuff makes Crass look like Blink 182.
Well, that is gabber and it is indeed comparable to hardcore, though much, much more commercial. It also has a lot of ridicilously poppy samples and the kick is usually too hard to got with the beat.

This here (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5664588748692782455) is some way better hardcore.

And Hellfish, of course.

[Invader Zim]

It also has a lot of ridicilously poppy samples

I thought it was quite amusing.



This here is some way better hardcore.

Angerfist is a legend.

You should listen to TommyKnocker, good stuff.

I'm not a huge fan of most hardcore, it gets boring quickly, but my flatmate loves it.

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

Yeah, I was talking about gabber in general. Angerfist is not too bad at times, though still too commercial for me.

Oh, and Tommy Knocker is more breakcore-like, I believe. Not sure, don't know him well.

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2006, 12:58 AM
Yeah, I was talking about gabber in general. Angerfist is not too bad at times, though still too commercial for me.
Yeah, like I said its not really my cup of tea in general. If I listen to dance music, I generally listen to ambient and IDM or as my flatmate calls it, stoner music.

[celtopunk]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2006, 01:21 PM
What the fuck? We're not talking about happy hardcore, we're talking about hardcore (the electronic kind).

No we are talking about hardcore AND some sort of electronic music that is most certainly NOT hardcore.

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by celtopunk+Oct 15 2006, 03:03 AM--> (celtopunk @ Oct 15 2006, 03:03 AM)
[email protected] 14 2006, 01:21 PM
What the fuck? We're not talking about happy hardcore, we're talking about hardcore (the electronic kind).

No we are talking about hardcore AND some sort of electronic music that is most certainly NOT hardcore. [/b]

some sort of electronic music

And how is hardcore techno not hardcore?

[Ian]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxK_IFODhds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkTR5-XvpHo left wing hardcore band, about as polished as a hardcore video clip can get

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

Originally posted by celtopunk+Oct 15 2006, 03:03 AM--> (celtopunk @ Oct 15 2006, 03:03 AM)
[email protected] 14 2006, 01:21 PM
What the fuck? We're not talking about happy hardcore, we're talking about hardcore (the electronic kind).

No we are talking about hardcore AND some sort of electronic music that is most certainly NOT hardcore. [/b]
Yes OK, we got your point about two posts ago, thanks.

"Machines are not music", right? :rolleyes:

[DM.]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2006, 11:58 PM
Yeah, I was talking about gabber in general. Angerfist is not too bad at times, though still too commercial for me.

Oh, and Tommy Knocker is more breakcore-like, I believe. Not sure, don't know him well.
No, Tommyknocker is just average mainstream hardcore from Italy. It has a different sound, but still it's mainstream just like good old boring Angerfist ;)

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

Ok :)

Any good tracks I should check out?

[Rollo]

What about bands like Parkway Drive, my friends say they are " metalcore" ( what the hell is that? ) I kinda figured it was metalcore but more scream. hardcore or no?

[Ian]

Why do so many left wing people like apolitical electronic shit yet so few give a shit about inherentely left wing hardcore?

[Ian]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2006, 09:56 PM
What about bands like Parkway Drive, my friends say they are " metalcore" ( what the hell is that? ) I kinda figured it was metalcore but more scream. hardcore or no?
yeah parkway are metalcore, almost metal.
50 Lions from the same town (Byron Bay) are hardcore, they are the dudes who made the shirts saying 'I BEAT UP REX HUNT' 'cause all their mates did haha.

[Rollo]

Originally posted by Ian+Oct 15 2006, 10:04 PM--> (Ian @ Oct 15 2006, 10:04 PM)
[email protected] 15 2006, 09:56 PM
What about bands like Parkway Drive, my friends say they are " metalcore" ( what the hell is that? ) I kinda figured it was metalcore but more scream. hardcore or no?
yeah parkway are metalcore, almost metal.
50 Lions from the same town (Byron Bay) are hardcore, they are the dudes who made the shirts saying 'I BEAT UP REX HUNT' 'cause all their mates did haha. [/b]
50 Lions kicks ass, my mate listens to 'em religiously and will fight to protect there name.

[Ian]

Good pokie machine as well.

[Rollo]

There's a gig on the 9th of november I might be going to. Byrons not THAT far from here.

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2006, 01:02 PM
Why do so many left wing people like apolitical electronic shit yet so few give a shit about inherentely left wing hardcore?
Because music doesn't have to be leftist to be good?

Besides, it's not like electronic music can't be leftist.

[rioters bloc]

[email protected]'inherently' left wing :P

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2006, 01:02 PM
Why do so many left wing people like apolitical electronic shit yet so few give a shit about inherentely left wing hardcore?
Simple, because inherently leftwing it maybe, but it also bores the hell out of me.



Yes OK, we got your point about two posts ago, thanks.

"Machines are not music", right?

That kind of attitude pisses me off.

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2006, 06:53 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxK_IFODhds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkTR5-XvpHo left wing hardcore band, about as polished as a hardcore video clip can get
LOL the drummer from the first clip has a manowar t-shit.

For those who are unaware, manowar are the ultimate example of a 'real life' spinaltap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsweGqOdC40

worst-band-ever

Other than the t-shirt which made me chuckle, it was alright I guess. Nothing special.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

that clip reminded me of this: http://americawestandasone.com/awsao.html

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

Originally posted by Dr. [email protected] 15 2006, 05:56 PM
that clip reminded me of this: http://americawestandasone.com/awsao.html
BWAHAHAHAHAHA That's one of the funniest things I've ever seen...

And "the most downloaded music video on the internet?" I think not :lol:

[DM.]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2006, 11:51 AM
Ok :)

Any good tracks I should check out?
Absolutely,

Almost every release on this labels kicks ass.

http://www.discogs.com/label/Enzyme+Records
http://www.discogs.com/label/Enzyme+X
http://www.discogs.com/label/Enzyme+VIP
http://www.discogs.com/label/Enzyme+K7
http://www.discogs.com/label/Genosha+Recordings
http://www.discogs.com/label/Protocast
http://www.discogs.com/label/Meta4
http://www.discogs.com/label/SYMP.TOM

Practicly everything from The Outside Agency and Ophidian kicks ass.

"The Third Movement" has also some great releases. For example this album from Void Settler:
http://www.discogs.com/release/670298

Since you're also into Hellfish and Producer, you'regonna love these releases from The Teknoist on this label: http://www.discogs.com/label/Ninja+Columbo
Best tracks are in my opinion, "Lets build a nerd fort' and "Lion Girl".
I think you already know Deathchant Records and Rebelscum? If not:

http://www.discogs.com/label/Deathchant
http://www.discogs.com/label/Rebelscum

If you're interested in some older stuff you should also check these labels:

http://www.discogs.com/label/Supreme+Intelligence
http://www.discogs.com/label/Gangsta+Audiovisuals
http://www.discogs.com/label/Ruffneck+Records


And just in case this isn't enough, you can always ask me for more. I could go on like this for hours :D

[Ian]

Originally posted by rioters [email protected] 16 2006, 12:16 AM
[email protected]'inherently' left wing :P
you can't rap.

[Little brother]

Originally posted by Ian+Oct 15 2006, 12:04 PM--> (Ian @ Oct 15 2006, 12:04 PM)
[email protected] 15 2006, 09:56 PM
What about bands like Parkway Drive, my friends say they are " metalcore" ( what the hell is that? ) I kinda figured it was metalcore but more scream. hardcore or no?
yeah parkway are metalcore, almost metal.
50 Lions from the same town (Byron Bay) are hardcore, they are the dudes who made the shirts saying 'I BEAT UP REX HUNT' 'cause all their mates did haha. [/b]
hahah thats awesome, i need that shirt. I too have been in a fight with Rex Hunt.
It's just so much fun to do!
Speaking of 50 Lions and Parkway there is a huge concert in Canberra coming late November, heaps of great hardcore/metalcore acts and the whole weekend is 55 bucks.
do it

[Rollo]

The problem is canberra is such a long way away so it would be morel ike $300.

[kaaos_af]

Whoa this thread is fucking skilodge.

[Ian]

Dude. What? $55?

I saw Canberra's best hardcore band Hardluck for $2 a few weeks ago.

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

Originally posted by DM.+Oct 16 2006, 01:21 AM--> (DM. @ Oct 16 2006, 01:21 AM)
[email protected] 15 2006, 11:51 AM
Ok :)

Any good tracks I should check out?
Absolutely,

Almost every release on this labels kicks ass.

http://www.discogs.com/label/Enzyme+Records
http://www.discogs.com/label/Enzyme+X
http://www.discogs.com/label/Enzyme+VIP
http://www.discogs.com/label/Enzyme+K7
http://www.discogs.com/label/Genosha+Recordings
http://www.discogs.com/label/Protocast
http://www.discogs.com/label/Meta4
http://www.discogs.com/label/SYMP.TOM

Practicly everything from The Outside Agency and Ophidian kicks ass.

"The Third Movement" has also some great releases. For example this album from Void Settler:
http://www.discogs.com/release/670298

Since you're also into Hellfish and Producer, you'regonna love these releases from The Teknoist on this label: http://www.discogs.com/label/Ninja+Columbo
Best tracks are in my opinion, "Lets build a nerd fort' and "Lion Girl".
I think you already know Deathchant Records and Rebelscum? If not:

http://www.discogs.com/label/Deathchant
http://www.discogs.com/label/Rebelscum

If you're interested in some older stuff you should also check these labels:

http://www.discogs.com/label/Supreme+Intelligence
http://www.discogs.com/label/Gangsta+Audiovisuals
http://www.discogs.com/label/Ruffneck+Records


And just in case this isn't enough, you can always ask me for more. I could go on like this for hours :D [/b]
I meant any good Tommy Knocker tracks :D

But you link some good hardcore, my friend.

[Comeback Kid]

50 Lions fuckin rule. So pissed off i missed out on Madball in bris.
Now that is a hardcore band.

On other news, CBGB closed. forever. How fucked is that?
discuss

[Little brother]

Yes Ian 55 bucks but god boy you should see the lineup. i got a hard on.......

[DM.]

Originally posted by [email protected] 18 2006, 10:22 AM
I meant any good Tommy Knocker tracks :D

But you link some good hardcore, my friend.
Good TommyKnocker tracks? Do they exist? :huh: No seriously, it's totally not my style, so I can't help you with it.

[Comeback Kid]

DISCUSS CBGB MOTHERFUCKERS!

[Ian]

Originally posted by Comeback [email protected] 23, 2006 12:44 pm
DISCUSS CBGB MOTHERFUCKERS!
old news broseph

[black magick hustla]

hardcore punk sucks alot

its just a bunch of kids slamming their face against their guitar while screaming shit

that is not heavy stuff, that is shit

actually, there is a cool hardcore band called sin dios. those guys are pretty cool imho

[Ian]

good contribution, are you bipolar?

[black magick hustla]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24, 2006 03:22 am
good contribution, are you bipolar?
yes

[Ian]

i could tell

[Rollo]

Originally posted by Comeback [email protected] 23, 2006 12:44 pm
DISCUSS CBGB MOTHERFUCKERS!
I prefer OBGYN.

[Comeback Kid]

OBGYN?


QUOTE (Comeback Kid @ October 23, 2006 12:44 pm)
DISCUSS CBGB MOTHERFUCKERS!


old news broseph

I know. but i still thought i was relevant. fight me ian.

[kaaos_af]

I hate bands which use acronyms in their names...

Oh who's you favourite band?
ABCD
Awesome man, mine's EFGHI
Serious? They sounds too much JKLM
Fuck off! More like NOPQRS and TUV.
Think so? But there's definately some influence in there... that and WXYZ.

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

RHCP! RATM!

[Pawn Power]

LoC!

[Comeback Kid]

Bands with long names suck period.

[Rollo]

NIN.

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

...AYWKUBTTOD

[Comeback Kid]

wtf mate?

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

...And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead (http://www.trailofdead.com/) :P