third-positionists?

[Organic Revolution]

what are we doing to enlighten people that the new, more popular fascist movments are anti-capitalist?

[Whitten]

Originally posted by Organic [email protected] 8 2006, 05:35 PM
what are we doing to enlighten people that the new, more popular fascist movments are anti-capitalist?
Why do we want to tell people that the fascists are anti-capitalists? Surly we want to be telling them that they're actually fascists and anti-democratic?

[Organic Revolution]

im saying, what are we doing to combat the growing popularity of fascist groups that espouse an anti-capitalist ideology

[The Grey Blur]

Who would these groups be?

As far as I can see it is the 'reformist right' (a la the BNP or Le Pen's lot) who are growing, not the radical fash. Regardless, the way we can combat fascist groups is through education of workers, physical force and counter-propaganda.

[Pink TnT]

I think we should emphasize the point of socialism, which, ultimately, is freedom. Fascists want economic centrism (leftist by US-UK standards) but authoritarianism. So, fascists, in espousing anti-capitalist ideology, do not advocate freedom. They use anti-capitalism as a way of getting people to think that they are for freedom, when they really are not.

[SocialistGenius]

Fascism is, in the words of it's creator, "corporatism: the merging of corporations and the state." So it most certainly is capitalistic: because a "corporation" by definition is the organizing of capital. In fact fascism is a crutch for a capitalist society that sees itself as being threatened by a leftist and/or workers movement, because of the various personal freedoms it takes away, because it imposes a police state, and because it purports to "unite" everybody under one "fearless leader".

Thus the corporations, through this merger, are given a plethora of power and utility that they would not otherwise have, which they then use to crush or at least attempt to combat the leftist and workers movements.

[Comrade Marcel]

Who are the third positionists going to recruitÉ Aside from a few youth, and a couple of people that are already somewhat political (i.e. ex-commies, ex-fascists, ex-nationalists that switch over to 3rdPism) what impact will they have in north ameriKKKa and the UKÉ in my opinoion not any at this point. Why treat them any differentÉ

[kaaos_af]

National Bolshevik Party is Third Positionist, so is BNP, White Aryan Resistance(!), International Eurasianist Movement- they're trouble! The last one, IEM, has very powerful figures involved and is funded by the Kremlin.

[armedpoet]

Good point Genius.

It is important to remember that the big corp's today came to be as a result of fascism.

A nice example is IBM's first computer.

[kaaos_af]

MMMM. That's right. Check this site out:

Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler:
http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/


This alone discredits the Nazis and 3rd Positionist's claims to be socialists. If you know what I mean.