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The Grey Blur
8th October 2006, 19:19
What's the deal with him and does anyone have any links to alternative interpretations of his actions and legacy

Thanks

Darth Revan
8th October 2006, 19:56
He betrayed Jesus for money or something more info here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judas_Iscariot

he was the main cause for ant-semitism because the christian saw every Jew As Judas lying backstabbing traitor one of the twelve original apostles of Jesus, and the one who is said to have betrayed him.
According to the account given in the gospels, he carried the disciples' money box and betrayed Jesus for a bribe of "thirty pieces of silver" by identifying him with a kiss—the "kiss of Judas"— to arresting soldiers of the High Priest Caiphas, who then turned Jesus over to Pontius Pilate's soldiers. These "pieces of silver" were most likely intended to be understood as silver Tyrian shekels.

The Grey Blur
8th October 2006, 20:16
Can we just give each other enough credit not to link to Wikipedia?

:rolleyes:


he was the main cause for ant-semitism
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Darth Revan
8th October 2006, 20:25
Originally posted by Permanent [email protected] 8 2006, 05:17 PM
Can we just give each other enough credit not to link to Wikipedia?

:rolleyes:


he was the main cause for ant-semitism
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Because of him every christian hated Jews in the medieval ages because he betrayed Jesus and the Christians saw the Jews responsible for his death(of Jesus)

RedCommieBear
8th October 2006, 21:17
Originally posted by Permanent Revolution+Oct 8 2006, 04:20 PM--> (Permanent Revolution @ Oct 8 2006, 04:20 PM)What's the deal with him and does anyone have any links to alternative interpretations of his actions and legacy.[/b]
There is an alternative view of Judas which takes him in a more positive light. The Gospel of Judas does not reject the belief that Judas turned Jesus into the Roman authorites, but suggests that Jesus told him to.

English Translation of the Gospel of Judas (http://www.nationalgeographic.com/lostgospel/document.html?fs=www9.nationalgeographic.com)


Originally posted by Gospel of Judas+--> (Gospel of Judas)You shall be cursed for generations... you will come to rule over them... You will exceed all of them. For you will sacrifice the man that clothes me.[/b]

The Vatican (and most organized churches) reject the Gospel, saying:


The Vatican's [email protected]
The Vatican, by word of Pope Benedict XVI, grants the recently surfaced Judas' Gospel no credit with regards to its apocryphal claims that Judas betrayed Jesus in compliance with the latter's own requests. According to the Pope, Judas freely chose to betray Jesus: "an open rejection of God's love". Judas, according to Pope Benedict XVI "viewed Jesus in terms of power and success: his only real interests lied with his power and success, there was no love involved. He was a greedy man: money was more important than communing with Jesus; money came before God and his love". According to the Pope it was due to these traits that led Judas to "turn liar, two-faced, indifferent to the truth", "losing any sense of God", "turning hard, incapable of converting, of being the prodigal son, hence throwing away a spent existence".


Father Thomas D. Williams
These are myths circulated by Dan Brown and other conspiracy theorists. You can go to any Catholic bookstore and pick up a copy of the Gnostic gospels. Christians may not believe them to be true, but there is no attempt to hide them.

Various Reactions to Gospel of Judas (http://www.psyche.com/psyche/meta/gjudas_reaction.html)

Edit: Added the "Various Reactions to Gospel of Judas"
Edit: Added Quote from Gospel of Judas

The Grey Blur
12th October 2006, 20:39
Does anyone have an mp3 of the song Stand Up For Judas written by Leon Roselsson?

I would love to hear it