Struggle against Imperialism

[BobKKKindle$]

N Korea 'to conduct nuclear test'

North Korea is to conduct a nuclear test "in the future", the foreign ministry has said in a statement.
The move would bolster the country's self-defence in the face of US military hostility, official agency KCNA said.

Pyongyang has faced mounting pressure over its nuclear programme. It is thought to have a handful of warheads but is not known to have tested one.

Japanese Foreign Minister Taro Aso has called the test plans "totally unforgivable", Kyodo agency reports.

Six-nation talks on its programme have been stalled for nearly a year, and the US has imposed financial sanctions on North Korean businesses.

'Grave situation'

The statement from Pyongyang said it would "in the future conduct a nuclear test under the condition where safety is firmly guaranteed".

"The US daily increasing threat of a nuclear war and its vicious sanctions and pressure have caused a grave situation on the Korean Peninsula," it said.

The ministry went on to say that "under the present situation in which the US moves to isolate and stifle" North Korea, the country "can no longer remain an onlooker to the developments."

I was proud as I read this

[Orion999]

QUOTE
N Korea 'to conduct nuclear test'

North Korea is to conduct a nuclear test "in the future", the foreign ministry has said in a statement.
The move would bolster the country's self-defence in the face of US military hostility, official agency KCNA said.

Pyongyang has faced mounting pressure over its nuclear programme. It is thought to have a handful of warheads but is not known to have tested one.

Japanese Foreign Minister Taro Aso has called the test plans "totally unforgivable", Kyodo agency reports.

Six-nation talks on its programme have been stalled for nearly a year, and the US has imposed financial sanctions on North Korean businesses.

'Grave situation'

The statement from Pyongyang said it would "in the future conduct a nuclear test under the condition where safety is firmly guaranteed".

"The US daily increasing threat of a nuclear war and its vicious sanctions and pressure have caused a grave situation on the Korean Peninsula," it said.

The ministry went on to say that "under the present situation in which the US moves to isolate and stifle" North Korea, the country "can no longer remain an onlooker to the developments."



I was proud as I read this

Supporting North Korea only reveals the true extant of your ignorance. People's entire familys are shot if they even hint at a dislike for Kim Jong. Of coarse the U.S. does not want nukes in the hands of an obvious mad man, what the hell is wrong with that?

[Iroquois Xavier]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2006, 01:46 PM

QUOTE
N Korea 'to conduct nuclear test'

North Korea is to conduct a nuclear test "in the future", the foreign ministry has said in a statement.
The move would bolster the country's self-defence in the face of US military hostility, official agency KCNA said.

Pyongyang has faced mounting pressure over its nuclear programme. It is thought to have a handful of warheads but is not known to have tested one.

Japanese Foreign Minister Taro Aso has called the test plans "totally unforgivable", Kyodo agency reports.

Six-nation talks on its programme have been stalled for nearly a year, and the US has imposed financial sanctions on North Korean businesses.

'Grave situation'

The statement from Pyongyang said it would "in the future conduct a nuclear test under the condition where safety is firmly guaranteed".

"The US daily increasing threat of a nuclear war and its vicious sanctions and pressure have caused a grave situation on the Korean Peninsula," it said.

The ministry went on to say that "under the present situation in which the US moves to isolate and stifle" North Korea, the country "can no longer remain an onlooker to the developments."



I was proud as I read this

Supporting North Korea only reveals the true extant of your ignorance. People's entire familys are shot if they even hint at a dislike for Kim Jong. Of coarse the U.S. does not want nukes in the hands of an obvious mad man, what the hell is wrong with that?
well bush is a madman and he's got nukes. :rolleyes:

[colonelguppy]

Originally posted by Iroquois Xavier+Oct 3 2006, 08:52 AM--> (Iroquois Xavier @ Oct 3 2006, 08:52 AM)
[email protected] 3 2006, 01:46 PM

QUOTE
N Korea 'to conduct nuclear test'

North Korea is to conduct a nuclear test "in the future", the foreign ministry has said in a statement.
The move would bolster the country's self-defence in the face of US military hostility, official agency KCNA said.

Pyongyang has faced mounting pressure over its nuclear programme. It is thought to have a handful of warheads but is not known to have tested one.

Japanese Foreign Minister Taro Aso has called the test plans "totally unforgivable", Kyodo agency reports.

Six-nation talks on its programme have been stalled for nearly a year, and the US has imposed financial sanctions on North Korean businesses.

'Grave situation'

The statement from Pyongyang said it would "in the future conduct a nuclear test under the condition where safety is firmly guaranteed".

"The US daily increasing threat of a nuclear war and its vicious sanctions and pressure have caused a grave situation on the Korean Peninsula," it said.

The ministry went on to say that "under the present situation in which the US moves to isolate and stifle" North Korea, the country "can no longer remain an onlooker to the developments."



I was proud as I read this

Supporting North Korea only reveals the true extant of your ignorance. People's entire familys are shot if they even hint at a dislike for Kim Jong. Of coarse the U.S. does not want nukes in the hands of an obvious mad man, what the hell is wrong with that?
well bush is a madman and he's got nukes. :rolleyes: [/b]
are you honestly comparing bush to kim jong? wow.

[Orion999]

If America is run by "Mad Men" with nukes how come we don't use them? Why not just blow Iraq and Afganistan into the stone age instead of wasting all this money (which you know cappies hate to do) invading them and trying to set up a democracy.

[Iroquois Xavier]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2006, 02:10 PM
If America is run by "Mad Men" with nukes how come we don't use them? Why not just blow Iraq and Afganistan into the stone age instead of wasting all this money (which you know cappies hate to do) invading them and trying to set up a democracy.
because if america started nuking every1 theyd lose all their "allies" and b completely fucked.

[Pirate Utopian]

invading them and trying to set up a democracy.
yes a democracy :rolleyes:

[Iroquois Xavier]

Originally posted by colonelguppy+Oct 3 2006, 02:05 PM--> (colonelguppy @ Oct 3 2006, 02:05 PM)
Originally posted by Iroquois [email protected] 3 2006, 08:52 AM

[email protected] 3 2006, 01:46 PM

QUOTE
N Korea 'to conduct nuclear test'

North Korea is to conduct a nuclear test "in the future", the foreign ministry has said in a statement.
The move would bolster the country's self-defence in the face of US military hostility, official agency KCNA said.

Pyongyang has faced mounting pressure over its nuclear programme. It is thought to have a handful of warheads but is not known to have tested one.

Japanese Foreign Minister Taro Aso has called the test plans "totally unforgivable", Kyodo agency reports.

Six-nation talks on its programme have been stalled for nearly a year, and the US has imposed financial sanctions on North Korean businesses.

'Grave situation'

The statement from Pyongyang said it would "in the future conduct a nuclear test under the condition where safety is firmly guaranteed".

"The US daily increasing threat of a nuclear war and its vicious sanctions and pressure have caused a grave situation on the Korean Peninsula," it said.

The ministry went on to say that "under the present situation in which the US moves to isolate and stifle" North Korea, the country "can no longer remain an onlooker to the developments."



I was proud as I read this

Supporting North Korea only reveals the true extant of your ignorance. People's entire familys are shot if they even hint at a dislike for Kim Jong. Of coarse the U.S. does not want nukes in the hands of an obvious mad man, what the hell is wrong with that?
well bush is a madman and he's got nukes. :rolleyes:
are you honestly comparing bush to kim jong? wow. [/b]
uh no.

im saying bush is a madman and he can hav nukes so why cant kim jong?

[Hiero]

How is Kim Jong Il a mad man? The DPRK has never threatened another nation.

[Iroquois Xavier]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2006, 02:24 PM
How is Kim Jong Il a mad man? The DPRK has never threatened another nation.
QFT.

[VonClausewitz]

How is Kim Jong Il a mad man? The DPRK has never threatened another nation.

It's generally sensible though, not to let slightly unhinged 'communist' (I know he isn't, so hush) dictators with a military complex, have nuclear weapons.

[Hool]

Originally posted by Iroquois [email protected] 3 2006, 02:15 PM
im saying bush is a madman and he can hav nukes so why cant kim jong?
Because last time i checked Bush didn't let tens of thousands of his people starve to death in order to have nukes, while he could be using that money to pay for his own citizens who he obviously doesn't give a damn about. Anybody who has that sort of disregaurd for life probably shouldn't have nukes.

[colonelguppy]

Originally posted by Iroquois Xavier+Oct 3 2006, 09:15 AM--> (Iroquois Xavier @ Oct 3 2006, 09:15 AM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2006, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by Iroquois [email protected] 3 2006, 08:52 AM

[email protected] 3 2006, 01:46 PM

QUOTE
N Korea 'to conduct nuclear test'

North Korea is to conduct a nuclear test "in the future", the foreign ministry has said in a statement.
The move would bolster the country's self-defence in the face of US military hostility, official agency KCNA said.

Pyongyang has faced mounting pressure over its nuclear programme. It is thought to have a handful of warheads but is not known to have tested one.

Japanese Foreign Minister Taro Aso has called the test plans "totally unforgivable", Kyodo agency reports.

Six-nation talks on its programme have been stalled for nearly a year, and the US has imposed financial sanctions on North Korean businesses.

'Grave situation'

The statement from Pyongyang said it would "in the future conduct a nuclear test under the condition where safety is firmly guaranteed".

"The US daily increasing threat of a nuclear war and its vicious sanctions and pressure have caused a grave situation on the Korean Peninsula," it said.

The ministry went on to say that "under the present situation in which the US moves to isolate and stifle" North Korea, the country "can no longer remain an onlooker to the developments."



I was proud as I read this

Supporting North Korea only reveals the true extant of your ignorance. People's entire familys are shot if they even hint at a dislike for Kim Jong. Of coarse the U.S. does not want nukes in the hands of an obvious mad man, what the hell is wrong with that?
well bush is a madman and he's got nukes. :rolleyes:
are you honestly comparing bush to kim jong? wow.
uh no.

im saying bush is a madman and he can hav nukes so why cant kim jong? [/b]
well obviously you're comparing bushes madness to kim jongs with your criteria of being able to have nukes

either way bush is more trustworthy with nukes then kim jong.

[Avtomatov]

Originally posted by colonelguppy+Oct 4 2006, 12:13 AM--> (colonelguppy @ Oct 4 2006, 12:13 AM)
Originally posted by Iroquois [email protected] 3 2006, 09:15 AM

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2006, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by Iroquois [email protected] 3 2006, 08:52 AM

[email protected] 3 2006, 01:46 PM

QUOTE
N Korea 'to conduct nuclear test'

North Korea is to conduct a nuclear test "in the future", the foreign ministry has said in a statement.
The move would bolster the country's self-defence in the face of US military hostility, official agency KCNA said.

Pyongyang has faced mounting pressure over its nuclear programme. It is thought to have a handful of warheads but is not known to have tested one.

Japanese Foreign Minister Taro Aso has called the test plans "totally unforgivable", Kyodo agency reports.

Six-nation talks on its programme have been stalled for nearly a year, and the US has imposed financial sanctions on North Korean businesses.

'Grave situation'

The statement from Pyongyang said it would "in the future conduct a nuclear test under the condition where safety is firmly guaranteed".

"The US daily increasing threat of a nuclear war and its vicious sanctions and pressure have caused a grave situation on the Korean Peninsula," it said.

The ministry went on to say that "under the present situation in which the US moves to isolate and stifle" North Korea, the country "can no longer remain an onlooker to the developments."



I was proud as I read this

Supporting North Korea only reveals the true extant of your ignorance. People's entire familys are shot if they even hint at a dislike for Kim Jong. Of coarse the U.S. does not want nukes in the hands of an obvious mad man, what the hell is wrong with that?
well bush is a madman and he's got nukes. :rolleyes:
are you honestly comparing bush to kim jong? wow.
uh no.

im saying bush is a madman and he can hav nukes so why cant kim jong?
well obviously you're comparing bushes madness to kim jongs with your criteria of being able to have nukes

either way bush is more trustworthy with nukes then kim jong. [/b]
You only trust Bush because of the propaganda you are fed in favor of him. And you only distrust Kim Jong Il and think he is a madman because of the propaganda you are fed in disfavor of him.

Youre like an animal, thats how simple minded you are.

Or is the reason you trust bush because he is white and conservative and doesnt have crazy hair?

[kingbee]

How about the fact that red korea has tested south korea deffences dozens of times over the years.

Er... when (apart from the Korean war)?

[Hool]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2006, 01:15 AM
You only trust Bush because of the propaganda you are fed in favor of him. And you only distrust Kim Jong Il and think he is a madman because of the propaganda you are fed in disfavor of him.

Youre like an animal, thats how simple minded you are.

Or is the reason you trust bush because he is white and conservative and doesnt have crazy hair?
And you have afternoon tea with him every Tuesday? :huh:

If you're implying that we trust someone like ourselves, i would trust Hugo Chavez more than i trust Bush.

[Orion999]

You only trust Bush because of the propaganda you are fed in favor of him. And you only distrust Kim Jong Il and think he is a madman because of the propaganda you are fed in disfavor of him.

Youre like an animal, thats how simple minded you are.

Or is the reason you trust bush because he is white and conservative and doesnt have crazy hair?


And where is it exactly that you recieve propaganda free news from? Please let us all know where we can get the "truth" from, and quit keeping it all to yourself. I love how whenever a commonly held belief that is aceppted almost world wide does not conform with your "America is evil" hypothesis it's automatically labeled as propaganda. Please tell me where I can get some true news about what a nice guy old Kim Jong really is.

[Avtomatov]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2006, 02:00 AM

You only trust Bush because of the propaganda you are fed in favor of him. And you only distrust Kim Jong Il and think he is a madman because of the propaganda you are fed in disfavor of him.

Youre like an animal, thats how simple minded you are.

Or is the reason you trust bush because he is white and conservative and doesnt have crazy hair?


And where is it exactly that you recieve propaganda free news from? Please let us all know where we can get the "truth" from, and quit keeping it all to yourself. I love how whenever a commonly held belief that is aceppted almost world wide does not conform with your "America is evil" hypothesis it's automatically labeled as propaganda. Please tell me where I can get some true news about what a nice guy old Kim Jong really is.
I dont trust either of them. But the fact is, North Korea will be invaded if they do not have nuclear weapons for detterance.

[colonelguppy]

Originally posted by Avtomatov+Oct 3 2006, 08:15 PM--> (Avtomatov @ Oct 3 2006, 08:15 PM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2006, 12:13 AM

Originally posted by Iroquois [email protected] 3 2006, 09:15 AM

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2006, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by Iroquois [email protected] 3 2006, 08:52 AM

[email protected] 3 2006, 01:46 PM

QUOTE
N Korea 'to conduct nuclear test'

North Korea is to conduct a nuclear test "in the future", the foreign ministry has said in a statement.
The move would bolster the country's self-defence in the face of US military hostility, official agency KCNA said.

Pyongyang has faced mounting pressure over its nuclear programme. It is thought to have a handful of warheads but is not known to have tested one.

Japanese Foreign Minister Taro Aso has called the test plans "totally unforgivable", Kyodo agency reports.

Six-nation talks on its programme have been stalled for nearly a year, and the US has imposed financial sanctions on North Korean businesses.

'Grave situation'

The statement from Pyongyang said it would "in the future conduct a nuclear test under the condition where safety is firmly guaranteed".

"The US daily increasing threat of a nuclear war and its vicious sanctions and pressure have caused a grave situation on the Korean Peninsula," it said.

The ministry went on to say that "under the present situation in which the US moves to isolate and stifle" North Korea, the country "can no longer remain an onlooker to the developments."



I was proud as I read this

Supporting North Korea only reveals the true extant of your ignorance. People's entire familys are shot if they even hint at a dislike for Kim Jong. Of coarse the U.S. does not want nukes in the hands of an obvious mad man, what the hell is wrong with that?
well bush is a madman and he's got nukes. :rolleyes:
are you honestly comparing bush to kim jong? wow.
uh no.

im saying bush is a madman and he can hav nukes so why cant kim jong?
well obviously you're comparing bushes madness to kim jongs with your criteria of being able to have nukes

either way bush is more trustworthy with nukes then kim jong.
You only trust Bush because of the propaganda you are fed in favor of him. And you only distrust Kim Jong Il and think he is a madman because of the propaganda you are fed in disfavor of him.

Youre like an animal, thats how simple minded you are. [/b]
um no.

i trust him because he has zero strategic use for them, kim jong does.


Or is the reason you trust bush because he is white and conservative and doesnt have crazy hair?

oh yeah you know me :rolleyes:

for the record i don't trust bush with about anythings, but to think he's going to start nuking people is insane.

[Purple]

Kim Jong is basically a dictator. He centralizes the economic power and uses it for his own good, not creating social equality or ridding off the class system. Most of the taxes goes towards the military, and he has essentially blocked North Korean citizens inside.

Personally, I think that he uses the nuclear weapon testings as a muscle flexing, making opposing nations afraid to invade. He should definetly be overthrown, preferably by the people of North Korea, by the means of a democratic revolution.

However, if Bush and his boys would be coming in to shoot their way to "democrazy"(haha), the civilian casualties would be too significant, and the last thing the world needs today is more puppet-countries for the developed capitalist countries.

[t_wolves_fan]

Originally posted by Iroquois [email protected] 3 2006, 02:15 PM
im saying bush is a madman and he can hav nukes so why cant kim jong?
Good lord.

:lol:

[Publius]

im saying bush is a madman and he can hav nukes so why cant kim jong?

Because he's a madman.

That should be obvious. Use your fucking brain.

No madmen should have nukes, including Bush. None should have them. Nuclear proliferation is not good.

Why can't you people think? It's pitiful. The average communist is really as ignorant as the average conservative Christian, just in a different way.

Just as one group deludes itself into thinking Jesus is coming, another deludes itself into thinking a certified maniac getting the Big One is a step forward for Communist revolution.

Guess what happens when your proleterian revolution happens in a nuclear armed country? Button press. No more 'proletearian revolution'.

[Enragé]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2006, 02:10 PM
If America is run by "Mad Men" with nukes how come we don't use them? Why not just blow Iraq and Afganistan into the stone age instead of wasting all this money (which you know cappies hate to do) invading them and trying to set up a democracy.
if you do that, you cant extract the oil.

All the infrastructure, and the cheap workers, would be gone.

[colonelguppy]

Originally posted by NewKindOfSoldier+Oct 4 2006, 03:55 PM--> (NewKindOfSoldier @ Oct 4 2006, 03:55 PM)
[email protected] 3 2006, 02:10 PM
If America is run by "Mad Men" with nukes how come we don't use them? Why not just blow Iraq and Afganistan into the stone age instead of wasting all this money (which you know cappies hate to do) invading them and trying to set up a democracy.
if you do that, you cant extract the oil.

All the infrastructure, and the cheap workers, would be gone. [/b]
exactly we have no strategic use for them at the moment.

i don't know if your saying that we're stealing their oil or something so i'll save the rant and give you the benefit of the doubt.

[RevSouth]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2006, 03:41 PM
Why can't you people think? It's pitiful. The average communist is really as ignorant as the average conservative Christian, just in a different way.
For the record, the average commie does not back Kim Jong Il.

[violencia.Proletariat]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2006, 09:46 AM

Supporting North Korea only reveals the true extant of your ignorance. People's entire familys are shot if they even hint at a dislike for Kim Jong. Of coarse the U.S. does not want nukes in the hands of an obvious mad man, what the hell is wrong with that?
You know I love how you'll claim North Korea is a secretive superstate, yet you seem to know every time a person uses foul language.

This is an unproven assertion which I doubt you have evidence for. Please provide it if you do though.

[Publius]

For the record, the average commie does not back Kim Jong Il.

Even against 'Western Imperialism'?

THat's what this is ostensibly about; poor KJI defending himself from the evil American overlords.

[Publius]

This is an unproven assertion which I doubt you have evidence for. Please provide it if you do though.

It should be obvious.

Here's Hitchen's take: http://www.slate.com/id/2117846

and before you discount him, remember to apply your own standard and prove any assertions you make about the facts in his article. Wouldn't want to be a hypocrite or anything.

Here are some pictures, and translation of them:

http://www.tema.ru/travel/choson-1/

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=82755

Discount the translation if you like, but just look at the pictures. They're amazing in a sickening way.

[Janus]

Even against 'Western Imperialism'?
Some do and some don't.


THat's what this is ostensibly about; poor KJI defending himself from the evil American overlords.
And the US is to decide who can have nuclear weapons and who can't? North Korea would have to be suicidal to use these nuclear weapons and the US is in no position to physically intervene at this point.

[thisguyisatotaljerk]

Bobkindles, you say you don't want imperialism, and yet isn't North Korea just Kim's private empire?

Additionally, I see living in north korea as much worse than working for any capitalist, don't you?

[colonelguppy]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2006, 11:17 PM
And the US is to decide who can have nuclear weapons and who can't? North Korea would have to be suicidal to use these nuclear weapons and the US is in no position to physically intervene at this point.
well obviously we are the ones capable of doing so and north korea not having nuclear weapons is much more beneficial to us.

[Enragé]

Originally posted by colonelguppy+Oct 4 2006, 10:34 PM--> (colonelguppy @ Oct 4 2006, 10:34 PM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2006, 03:55 PM

[email protected] 3 2006, 02:10 PM
If America is run by "Mad Men" with nukes how come we don't use them? Why not just blow Iraq and Afganistan into the stone age instead of wasting all this money (which you know cappies hate to do) invading them and trying to set up a democracy.
if you do that, you cant extract the oil.

All the infrastructure, and the cheap workers, would be gone.
exactly we have no strategic use for them at the moment.

i don't know if your saying that we're stealing their oil or something so i'll save the rant and give you the benefit of the doubt. [/b]
The United States want the strategic control of the oilfields, in face of a growing china

nuking it would therefore be counterproductive (not to mention that any ally the US have left would...get pissed off to say the least)

[ZX3]

Originally posted by Avtomatov+Oct 4 2006, 02:12 AM--> (Avtomatov @ Oct 4 2006, 02:12 AM)
[email protected] 4 2006, 02:00 AM

You only trust Bush because of the propaganda you are fed in favor of him. And you only distrust Kim Jong Il and think he is a madman because of the propaganda you are fed in disfavor of him.

Youre like an animal, thats how simple minded you are.

Or is the reason you trust bush because he is white and conservative and doesnt have crazy hair?


And where is it exactly that you recieve propaganda free news from? Please let us all know where we can get the "truth" from, and quit keeping it all to yourself. I love how whenever a commonly held belief that is aceppted almost world wide does not conform with your "America is evil" hypothesis it's automatically labeled as propaganda. Please tell me where I can get some true news about what a nice guy old Kim Jong really is.
I dont trust either of them. But the fact is, North Korea will be invaded if they do not have nuclear weapons for detterance. [/b]
North koprea has not been "invaded" for 50 years without having nukes. Why would the situation change?