A open letter of gratitude to the USA.

[thisguyisatotaljerk]

I am interested in gauging communist opinions to this little letter I just wrote...

To the people of the United States of America...

Thank you.

I sometimes find that much of the world, including many Marxist European governments in particular, manifest great ingratitude towards you for helping them defeat the Nazis and their allies, the Communists.

Your people selflessly liberated Europe, Asia, South Korea, Afghanistan and Iraq from tyranny. And whilst other nations screamed invasion, those liberated screamed gratitude.

Other nations sacrificed thier sons for conquest. You did so only so that others might be made free.

No other nation has contributed so much to the fields of art, science and technology as have yours. The quantity of your Nobel Prize winners speaks volumes of this. Furthermore, your technological produce have transformed and revolutionised the living standards of the world.

You have freed the Earth from the twin tyrannies of communism and fascism and have provided the Earth a lasting foundation for democratic stability from which we may steadfastly and safely advance into the 21st century.

In essence America, you have created the modern world.

Allow me to add that I am not even an American, though I am proud to say that my father was fortunate to have served in your USAF in preparation for a paradrop on Japan after he was liberated.

Without you America, we would be in hell right now.

Thank you.

[Rollo]

Which eurpoean governments are marxist?

Ever been to europe, asia or south korea? Everybody there hates the USA too.

[RaiseYourVoice]

including many Marxist European governments in particular,
namely? france and sweden? XD


defeat the Nazis and their allies, the Communists.
read a history book


Your people selflessly liberated Europe, Asia, South Korea, Afghanistan and Iraq from tyranny
lawl


And whilst other nations screamed invasion, those liberated screamed gratitude.
they did?


No other nation has contributed so much to the fields of art, science and technology as have yours
you're wrong.... no other nation contributed ANYTHING!


You have freed the Earth from the twin tyrannies of communism and fascism and have provided the Earth a lasting foundation for democratic stability from which we may steadfastly and safely advance into the 21st century.
or something like that... you did go to school once? i mean also attended? like history lessons? or are you just trolling?


In essence America, you have created the modern world.
they have shaped it strongly, yes

[Jazzratt]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2006, 08:38 AM
I am interested in gauging communist opinions to this little letter I just wrote...
No you're not, you're interested in trolling a message board and cumming in your pants at the idea of having irritated some people. However you shall get my full and frank opinion of this decaying heap of shit.



To the people of the United States of America... Good start...


Thank you. Here you and I have parted ways, you're thanking a group of people who have not nesecarilly even given support to the things you describe, much less actually done them. But that's merely a semantic point.


I sometimes find that much of the world, including many Marxist European governments in particular, manifest great ingratitude towards you for helping them defeat the Nazis and their allies, the Communists. What marxist european governments would those be? Because I can only see Liberal (in the classic sense) governments. I guess you don't know a lot about politics, chum? How much "help" the Americans gave the Europeans in WWII is often disputed. Their "allies" the communists actually did a lot more in the breaking of Hitler, especially as they were the first into Berlin.


Your people selflessly liberated Europe, Asia, Specific countries if you will and a coherent explanation of why you describe them as 'liberated'.
South Korea, Afghanistan and Iraq from tyranny. And whilst other nations screamed invasion, those liberated screamed gratitude. Yeah, those 'liberated' did indeed scream. I wouldn't describe it as gratitude though, more sort of "agony at having their arms and legs blown off". Also their are several groups, with a lot of ordinary working class support, in those countries that contend that they were invasion and therfore defend their country against the imperialist agresors.


Other nations sacrificed thier sons for conquest. You did so only so that others might be made free. Baseless, you have yet to illustrate one example of the Ameri**** Army allowing anyone increased freedom.


No other nation has contributed so much to the fields of art, science and technology as have yours. No other single nation, with the exception of china is as populous and as large, of course people will advance in those fields if only by law of averages, but ask yourself - who made the more important advances.
The quantity of your Nobel Prize winners speaks volumes of this. Actually it just speaks volumes about the quantity of people in the country, some of whom will win nobel prizes. Bear in mind that most of the Ameri****s with nobel prizes have mickey mouse ones from slow years in innovation.
Furthermore, your technological produce have transformed and revolutionised the living standards of the world. Oh indeed, without the sweatshop where would Indonesia be?


You have freed the Earth from the twin tyrannies of communism and fascism The world freed itself from Fascism, it was not one nation. Communism isn't a tyranny, fuckwit.
and have provided the Earth a lasting foundation for democratic stability from which we may steadfastly and safely advance into the 21st century. PFHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA "a lasting foundation for democratic stability" hahahahahahahahahaha, christ that's a good one. The countries the US invades are actually less stable now. I also hope like fuck they don't bring US demockracy to the world, because that is a fucking joke.


In essence America, you have created the modern world. A world that many people seek to change for the better, makes you wonder doesn't it?


Allow me to add that I am not even an American, What are you then, you wanker, that would speak so highly of such a tyrannical, imperialist nation?
though I am proud to say that my father was fortunate to have served in your USAF in preparation for a paradrop on Japan after he was liberated. So he was brainwashed and sent to kill people in Japan. We all know how well the 'liberation' of Hiroshima and Nagasaki went, don't we?


Without you America, we would be in hell right now. No we wouldn't, hell is a story that is told to gullible people from a rather venerable book of stories known as "The Bible".


Thank you. Oh fuck off you fawning ****.

[Vladislav]

Hahahaha you gotta be joking.Post this on rebel warrior or someshit and you'll probably be and admin straight away.
Don't see the point of this thread and you seem like a troll.

[Pirate Utopian]

here is my letter to america;

:wub: dear america
http://www.decrepitoldfool.com/images/01/flagburning.jpg

with love, hidde :wub:

[Orion999]

As an American who's grandfather died on Omaha beach fighting the Nazis I sincerely thank you for your gratitude which is all we ever wanted in the first place.

[VonClausewitz]

QUOTE
Your people selflessly liberated Europe, Asia,
Specific countries if you will and a coherent explanation of why you describe them as 'liberated'.

I think helped liberate would be more accurate. Ever hear of Operation Overlord jazzratt ? I'm not the biggest fan of our colonial cousins, but without their extra bodies, I doubt that the Normandy landings wold have been so easily sucessful.

[Qwerty Dvorak]

I think this "letter" was written with the intention of angering some of the more gullible on this board.

[Jazzratt]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2006, 03:51 PM

QUOTE
Your people selflessly liberated Europe, Asia,
Specific countries if you will and a coherent explanation of why you describe them as 'liberated'.

I think helped liberate would be more accurate. Ever hear of Operation Overlord jazzratt ? I'm not the biggest fan of our colonial cousins, but without their extra bodies, I doubt that the Normandy landings wold have been so easily sucessful.
He didn't say 'helped liberate' though did he?

[Herman]

Wow... absurd and stupid. I'll forget this letter ever existed.

[Whitten]

I sometimes find that much of the world, including many Marxist European governments in particular, manifest great ingratitude towards you for helping them defeat the Nazis and their allies, the Communists.

Stopped reading there

[Jazzratt]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2006, 05:20 PM

I sometimes find that much of the world, including many Marxist European governments in particular, manifest great ingratitude towards you for helping them defeat the Nazis and their allies, the Communists.

Stopped reading there
I read on, trust me it was painful.

[Pirate Utopian]

it was funny this totaljerk is so full of shit it's funny

[Rhyknow]

Oh God... OMFG I can't be reading this properly.

Thank you, to the American government for the countless times you've lied to us. Thank you for all the innocent men women and children your soldiers have killed in the middle east. Thank you for putting a fucking moron like George Bush in power. Thank you, oh thank you for influencing every single one of my fucking friends with their "Crips shoot Bloods" mentality that is invading France. Thank you for putting Saddam in power in the first place.

I would go on, but i shan't. At the end of the day, i have nothing against the American people... sure some americans can be morons, but so can everyone, regardless of where you come from. It's the corrupt, disgusting capitalist government that i detest. How can you justify the massacre of hundreds of innocent people in Iraq? The people who never asked for any of this? How can you justify Nagasaki and Hiroshima?

Patriotic bullshit. It was a round world last i checked

[Pirate Utopian]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2006, 07:04 PM
Oh God... OMFG I can't be reading this properly.

Thank you, to the American government for the countless times you've lied to us. Thank you for all the innocent men women and children your soldiers have killed in the middle east. Thank you for putting a fucking moron like George Bush in power. Thank you, oh thank you for influencing every single one of my fucking friends with their "Crips shoot Bloods" mentality that is invading France. Thank you for putting Saddam in power in the first place.

I would go on, but i shan't. At the end of the day, i have nothing against the American people... sure some americans can be morons, but so can everyone, regardless of where you come from. It's the corrupt, disgusting capitalist government that i detest. How can you justify the massacre of hundreds of innocent people in Iraq? The people who never asked for any of this? How can you justify Nagasaki and Hiroshima?

Patriotic bullshit. It was a round world last i checked
:o so the democracy in iraq-thing was a lie :o :rolleyes:

[theraven]

your welcome

and you commies suck

[Rhyknow]

Well, i'm glad such an intelligent source has told me that...

We commies suck, well thank god i had the Raven to clear that lil matter up for me.

[Raj Radical]

thisguyisatotaljerk...


You think we havent had our fair share share of trolls before?

Although I must admit, you fail as one, you need to learn to be much more subtle and your writing style is horid.

[Jazzratt]

Originally posted by Raj [email protected] 3 2006, 06:28 PM
thisguyisatotaljerk...


You think we havent had our fair share share of trolls before?

Although I must admit, you fail as one, you need to learn to be much more subtle and your writing style is horid.
I don't know, some of the less subtle trolls have been a right laugh riot. Remember that 'Imperialsim' or 'impearialist' bloke? The one who challanged Si_Pinto to a duel? Man that guy was a fucking laugh a minute.

Oh and that General patton fuckwit, the guy who wrote bloody long, stupid essay style rants?

...good times :lol:

[Purple]

The North Americans that died fighting for freedom in Europe should be sincerly thanked, and not thrashed. They sacrificed their lives for the most valuable(and finite) resource on this globe: freedom. There is nothing corruptable with that. They were of a greater group all working for that same goal.

This letter however, shows a fucking extreme ignorance. Even as a capitalist you cannot honestly believe that any Axis country was communist? If you are refering to Hitler's "National Socialism" you can see the every-day facism that was going on in Germany at the time. Arresting union leaders, believers of different ideologies, invoking indepent thought, promoting "survival of the strongest"?

Sounds a lot like Satanism if you'd ask me. Fuck, Hitler used God as a cover, so Id feel it would be more accurate to blame Christianity itself. Of ignorance, ignorance is produced.

...and yes, I am sure that USA freed AAALL of Europe, AAALL by themselves. That actually seems to be alot of the mentality here in North America.

Sure...


PS: I changed "Americans" to "North Americans", dont wanna forget the Canadians :)

[thisguyisatotaljerk]

Well, i appreciate all the replies.

Why did I say European governments are Marxist? Because they are. Ever heard of this thing called the graduated income tax? An idea of Marx btw. See a little thingy happened in 1848 when some ingrates scrapped the poll tax and replaced it with this abomination.


Thank you, to the American government for the countless times you've lied to us. Thank you for all the innocent men women and children your soldiers have killed in the middle east. Thank you for putting a fucking moron like George Bush in power.
You'd be counting your lucky stars you're no longer living under Saddam or the Taliban. George Bush did nothing wrong to remove them. Ask someone who actually lived under these regimes.



This letter however, shows a fucking extreme ignorance. Even as a capitalist you cannot honestly believe that any Axis country was communist? If you are refering to Hitler's "National Socialism" you can see the every-day facism that was going on in Germany at the time. Arresting union leaders, believers of different ideologies, invoking indepent thought, promoting "survival of the strongest"?

Well, the communists also arrested union leaders and beleivers of different ideologies, They promoted a survival of the slimiest based upon a horrific conformist culture. I really don't see much difference between fascism and communism and nor did the USA, hence the cold war. Thanks again USA. I love you.

[Vladislav]

You have to learn what fascism and communism is before making assumptions.Reading biased history books that tell you that the U.S landing on D-Day was the turning point of WWII is not a great start.

This (http://marx.org/archive/trotsky/works/1944/1944-fas.htm#p1) explains what fascism is very clearly.

As for Communism (http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm) in a nutshell, it is a stateless,classless society.

Start reading.

And

Damn you should've known this before starting threads on how communism is the same as fascism. Oh well, you learn something new everyday, eh jerk?

[Iroquois Xavier]

wow thanks moron this makes me want to change my ideology.... :rolleyes:

[Rollo]

Dear Uncle Sam.

My name is Uqhbal. I live in Iraq.
Ever since you 'invaded' my country good things have been happening. Yesterday my neighbours called me bad names and today your bombs killed them. Also my big brother would not share his toys with me. It was really unfaire because he had all the good toys. Thank you for blowing up the school he was in, now I have all his toys and can play whenever I want. Damn I have to go, mother is making me do chores. Please kill her too.

//Uqhbal.

[thisguyisatotaljerk]

HEY vladislaw. Its you commies that call USSR fascist!!!


My name is Uqhbal. I live in Iraq.
Ever since you 'invaded' my country good things have been happening. Yesterday my neighbours called me bad names and today your bombs killed them. Also my big brother would not share his toys with me. It was really unfaire because he had all the good toys. Thank you for blowing up the school he was in, now I have all his toys and can play whenever I want. Damn I have to go, mother is making me do chores. Please kill her too.

Hello uqbal. I am sorry your family was hurt. Also, since you seem to be in love with Saddam, why don't you bust him out of prison. I mean that guy is in an IRAQI prision. No-one is intereted in busting him out. Oh well, guess the Americans aren't too bad after all eh Uqbal? I suppose its no concern of yours that America lost 3000 soldiers to make it that way huh? I mean its only the Iraqi do-nothing civilians that matter huh?

[Rollo]

I do not love sadaam he is demon. George bush coca cola baseball my god.

[Iroquois Xavier]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2006, 09:29 AM
I do not love sadaam he is demon. George bush coca cola baseball my god.
who needs borat? go Uqhbal.

[Vladislav]

Originally posted by thisguyisatotaljerk+Oct 4 2006, 09:27 AM--> (thisguyisatotaljerk @ Oct 4 2006, 09:27 AM) HEY vladislaw. Its you commies that call USSR fascist!!![/b]

what,when,where?

You should at least try to make an effort to learn something before saying things like:

I really don't see much difference between fascism and communism and nor did the USA, hence the cold war. Thanks again USA. I love you.

You think that the sun shines out of Americas ass don't you? So therefore you listen to all the bullshit you learnt at school and believe it straight away. The world isn't that simple. You can't just say: USA=the best and communism=fascism because that's what the USA says.

Please read the links that I posted previously. If you can't respond properly to what I have said then I'm just gonna assume you're troll with nothing better to do.

Edit:

thisguyisatotaljerk
Oh well, guess the Americans aren't too bad after all eh Uqbal? I suppose its no concern of yours that America lost 3000 soldiers to make it that way huh? I mean its only the Iraqi do-nothing civilians that matter huh?

Are you saying that civilian lives are worth less than a soldiers life? US soldiers have killed thousands (http://www.iraqbodycount.org/) of civilians.

[Iroquois Xavier]

good posts Vladislav, i dont know whether the dude has enough braincells to appreciate what your saying but we can only try eh? ;)

[Rollo]

Stop deforming the character of the USA you demons.

[Iroquois Xavier]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2006, 10:21 AM
Stop deforming the character of the USA you demons.
oh noes demons! the apocalypse is upon us! :P ;)

[Comrade J]

You'd be counting your lucky stars you're no longer living under Saddam or the Taliban. George Bush did nothing wrong to remove them. Ask someone who actually lived under these regimes.


I suppose its no concern of yours that America lost 3000 soldiers to make it that way huh?

Ok, so if everyone in Iraq who lived under Saddam's regime is perfectly happy with their 'liberation,' then why are 3000 soldiers dead? (And more so, why is the number rising?)

Roadside bombs anyone? Rocket launchers? Suicide bombings? Yep, I agree, they seem happy as fuck! :lol:

[Wanted Man]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2006, 04:10 PM
Please all England contributed to the war effort was her military bases we could have won the war without you. :P
Are you retarded? Britain was fighting while a lot of Americans were still pretending that nothing was going on, and the British fought in Africa and Asia. Not to mention their tremendous participation in the liberation of western Europe. If not for Britain, Germany could rule the Atlantic unchecked, they would have moved through the Middle East and the Caucasus, and could even have linked up with the Japanese, who could have directed their full attention towards China and America if not for Britain. Italy would have never been invaded, either.

So think before you open your dumbass mouth the next time, thank you.

[Dean]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2006, 02:12 PM
As an American who's grandfather died on Omaha beach fighting the Nazis I sincerely thank you for your gratitude which is all we ever wanted in the first place.
no, the US wanted revenge.

Tell your grandfather I said "hi, and thanks for being a murderer."

Oh wait. It's too late! Hah.

My grandfather fought in WWII. He fought for the americans in germany and brought back a lot of Nazi paraphernalia. He was a racist who destroyed my grandmother's will and spent the money on prostitutes. I love our military men.

[t_wolves_fan]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2006, 03:57 PM
My grandfather fought in WWII. He fought for the americans in germany and brought back a lot of Nazi paraphernalia. He was a racist who destroyed my grandmother's will and spent the money on prostitutes. I love our military men.
Let me get this straight:

Because your grandfather was a bad person, the entire mission of WWII and the people who fought in it were the same way?

[colonelguppy]

no, the US wanted revenge.

for what?


Tell your grandfather I said "hi, and thanks for being a murderer."

Oh wait. It's too late! Hah.

murderer is a legal term which doesn't apply to war. either way if he died on omaha beach he probably didn't get a chance to kill anyone.


My grandfather fought in WWII. He fought for the americans in germany and brought back a lot of Nazi paraphernalia. He was a racist who destroyed my grandmother's will and spent the money on prostitutes. I love our military men.

hey mine did too. funny though he never did any of those kind of things.

[Criminal_Affinities]

are you being capitalist just to piss the communists off by any chance?

[UndergroundConnexion]

this letter is so stupid, i wonder if it is not a parody...

[Rollo]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2006, 01:00 AM
this letter is so stupid, i wonder if it is not a parody...
Why make fun of great USA? They save us all from evil dictators and false religions.

[Dean]

Originally posted by t_wolves_fan+Oct 6 2006, 05:29 PM--> (t_wolves_fan @ Oct 6 2006, 05:29 PM)
[email protected] 6 2006, 03:57 PM
My grandfather fought in WWII. He fought for the americans in germany and brought back a lot of Nazi paraphernalia. He was a racist who destroyed my grandmother's will and spent the money on prostitutes. I love our military men.
Let me get this straight:

Because your grandfather was a bad person, the entire mission of WWII and the people who fought in it were the same way? [/b]
No - when did I say that? Just remarking about how many scumbags are in the military. Our government only attacked Germany when it became clear that they were a threat to our interests, but I don't think that that means we shouldn't have invaded Germany.

Why don't you start responding to more tangible arguments when you post shit, anyways? You only go after the "easy" arguments and somehow think you've demolished the whole ideology that someone or a group might have. You're just trying to justify your own anti-communism, apparently.

[Dean]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2006, 06:19 PM

no, the US wanted revenge.

for what?


Tell your grandfather I said "hi, and thanks for being a murderer."

Oh wait. It's too late! Hah.

murderer is a legal term which doesn't apply to war. either way if he died on omaha beach he probably didn't get a chance to kill anyone.


My grandfather fought in WWII. He fought for the americans in germany and brought back a lot of Nazi paraphernalia. He was a racist who destroyed my grandmother's will and spent the money on prostitutes. I love our military men.

hey mine did too. funny though he never did any of those kind of things.
"murderer" is also a moral term. I prefer morality to law, but thats just me.

The U.S. wanted revenge for Pearl Harbor, and the aggression in general. that was understood by Truman and many conservatives who still support the bombing.

Sure your pappy didn't rape any native women or hire prostitutes while enlisted? pretty common thing to do.

[colonelguppy]

Originally posted by Dean+Oct 13 2006, 10:23 PM--> (Dean @ Oct 13 2006, 10:23 PM)
[email protected] 6 2006, 06:19 PM

no, the US wanted revenge.

for what?


Tell your grandfather I said "hi, and thanks for being a murderer."

Oh wait. It's too late! Hah.

murderer is a legal term which doesn't apply to war. either way if he died on omaha beach he probably didn't get a chance to kill anyone.


My grandfather fought in WWII. He fought for the americans in germany and brought back a lot of Nazi paraphernalia. He was a racist who destroyed my grandmother's will and spent the money on prostitutes. I love our military men.

hey mine did too. funny though he never did any of those kind of things.
"murderer" is also a moral term. I prefer morality to law, but thats just me.

The U.S. wanted revenge for Pearl Harbor, and the aggression in general. that was understood by Truman and many conservatives who still support the bombing.

Sure your pappy didn't rape any native women or hire prostitutes while enlisted? pretty common thing to do. [/b]
well if by revenge you mean strategically trying to avoid losing a war and therefore your soveriegnty than ok.

rape wasn't nearly as common as hiring prostitutes, but either way the places where my grandad was weren't really inhabited by anyone but japanese soldiers.