Jesus camp

[Delta]

Well actually they already are fascists, but in any case, here's (http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=2455343) a video of some evangelical children learning to be god's soldiers. Pretty scary.

[Janus]

Getting them early. This is what Bible camp is all about.

[Organic Revolution]

Jeez...thats some crazy stuff..

[Orange Juche]

Hmmm.... this is why I enjoy being a godless sodomite haha.

Thats pretty fucked though.

[An archist]

... but just wach the trailer, it's pretty sick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_EKHK1C2IE

[t_wolves_fan]

Saw this last week. Very, very scary stuff.

[theraven]

oh come on, that camp is great fun. I had a wonderful time there as a kid.

[bloody_capitalist_sham]

The lameness of america never fails to amaze.

[Pirate Utopian]

there are other clips of it on youtube that is really fucked up

[OneBrickOneVoice]

Originally posted by An [email protected] 2 2006, 09:02 AM
... but just wach the trailer, it's pretty sick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_EKHK1C2IE
ya I saw this to. I named it 'the creepiest movie ever' on my blog. I especially liked the part where the girl said she liked "Christian Heavy metal' lol :lol:.

[VonClausewitz]

That's really quite scary. Quite glad good ol' King Henry seriously shat upon massively-organised religion in this country.

[ahab]

thats disgusting, brainwashing religion I swear. Built from desperation and ignorance, you can convince someone to believe in anything, and that proves it. I feel sorry for those kids, taught to believe in nothing, base their 'faith' upon imagination, christianity marks the fall of mankind.

[Pirate Utopian]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWhT2PtaD0w...related&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWhT2PtaD0w&mode=related&search=)
look at this clip!, very fucked up

[Qwerty Dvorak]

Originally posted by patton+Oct 2 2006, 05:32 PM--> (patton @ Oct 2 2006, 05:32 PM)
An [email protected] 2 2006, 09:02 AM
... but just wach the trailer, it's pretty sick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_EKHK1C2IE
the jesus camp sounds pretty lame. [/b]
QFT.

[Patchd]

Just laugh at them. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[JazzRemington]

OMG, this is the most violently ignorant thing I have ever seen in my entire life. Period.

Congratulations, An Archist. You've just made my brain hurt.

But, I can't help but what wonder what would happen if a Marxist, or more interestingly an Egoist, were to show up there?

[bloody_capitalist_sham]

Its really wierd how you get these kinda crazy fundimentalists, who are making gods army of children.

And in the same country you get those armish christians who are totally pacifist.

While both i bet claim to be better christians than the other group.

[colonelguppy]

lol at mullet kid.

guarantee most those kids won't keep their faith past puberty.

[Krypto-Communist]

Why can't the muslim fanatics in the ME target places like that?

I wouldn't shed a tear if they did.

[Raj Radical]

Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2006, 01:31 PM
oh come on, that camp is great fun. I had a wonderful time there as a kid.
Ugh, the OI forum is so boring now.

You guys arent even debating anymore, just trying to irritate us and get under out skin by being the embodiment of cappy/religious/rightwing fanaticals.

[Hool]

You guys really think those people represent the majority of Christians? That's not even Christianity, that's a bunch of morons being duped into donating their money and children to these mega-churches. The hardcore Christians would be the monks living in monastarys, not these wacko's.

[Pirate Utopian]

nobody said that, these people are just fucked and the movies shows not all those religious camps and clubs can be trusted

[Janus]

Moved to Religion.

[Dean]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2006, 10:25 PM
Moved to Religion.
"No eggs miss the junkies... crime never pays... pretty children are popular; ugly children, cynical..." - Chumbawamba

[The Rover]

Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2006, 03:03 PM
"Christian Heavy metal'
I went to a christian rock concert once. I listened to this one heavy metal band, and their singer screamed so hard he got a nose bleed. It made me laugh.


And Jesus Camp is the training ground of the nazi pope's grand army.

[Hool]

Originally posted by Big [email protected] 3 2006, 09:01 PM
nobody said that, these people are just fucked and the movies shows not all those religious camps and clubs can be trusted
I'll agree

[LoneRed]

that woman openly said she approved indoctrinating, or "brainwashing" wow, I don't have a comment.

[Vladislav]

Thank god I'm an atheist.

[Iroquois Xavier]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2006, 12:11 PM
Thank god I'm an atheist.
LOL my sentiments exactly.

[LoneRed]

these are trailers for a move called Jesus Camp, correct? if so, It would def. be interesting to watch

[Janus]

Merged.

[grove street]

Look on the bright side. This gives us an oppurtunity by setting up our own youth Communist camps under the guise of Christian camps where thousands of kids will flock to us in order to hear the good word of Karl Marx, opps I meant Jesus Christ.

Parents-'So what did you learn at Bible camp sweety'

Child- 'That the proletriat must revolt against the evil captalists'

Parents- 'Ooh how sweet, lil jimmy must be talking about how Jesus died for our sins'.

Parents see a picture that jimmy has brought back with him.

Mother- 'Thats a very interesting picture of Jesus'

Father- 'Well yes indeed, I never recall Jesus having a rather large bushy moustache'

[Faux Real]

Sorry for necroposting but I'm currently watching the whole documentary and laughing my ass off. There's the whole movie posted by a user, starting here. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=KC3jnQLj_zM) Looks well worth the time to inform about the non-Islamic fundamentalists. I'm so glad I wasn't raised religiously now.

Edit: LOL @ Evangelical arguments against scientific global warming.

[Omar]

Originally posted by The Rover+October 04, 2006 04:08 am--> (The Rover @ October 04, 2006 04:08 am)
[email protected] 2 2006, 03:03 PM
"Christian Heavy metal'
I went to a christian rock concert once. I listened to this one heavy metal band, and their singer screamed so hard he got a nose bleed. It made me laugh.


And Jesus Camp is the training ground of the nazi pope's grand army. [/b]
All the coolest heavy metal is about pain, death and satan. Christians cant be cool because they're squares.

[midnight marauder]

one of the camps featured in this documentary is in a suburb of my city.

yeah, I know, I have to deal with them all the time. :angry:

[ECD Hollis]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21, 2006 02:49 am
Well actually they already are fascists, but in any case, here's (http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=2455343) a video of some evangelical children learning to be god's soldiers. Pretty scary.
Welcome to Islam.

[apathy maybe]

Sir, welcome to Islam indeed. This is Christianity that is being discussed, not Islam. Of course Islam has problems, but so does Christianity.

Religion is the common part of both of these, I think it is safe to say that religion is the problem.

[The New Left]

I always thought religion was about people and love? Hahahaha, sorry, couldn't keep a straight face. After reading this thread, I had to go out a get the movie, I'm about to watch it, see how it is.

[Jazzratt]

Originally posted by ECD Hollis+July 17, 2007 07:18 pm--> (ECD Hollis @ July 17, 2007 07:18 pm)
[email protected] 21, 2006 02:49 am
Well actually they already are fascists, but in any case, here's (http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=2455343) a video of some evangelical children learning to be god's soldiers. Pretty scary.
Welcome to Islam. [/b]
Yeah, obviously Christianity is entirely without the faults of the other religions of Abraham. :rolleyes:

[The New Left]

I just finished watching this movie, and wow. The movie is good, unlike Micheal Moore films, which are biased slightly for the left (which isn't always a bad thing for us), it gives a even perspective of each side. But over all it shows how conservative America is going after youth of today for their ultimate goal of tomorrow. The woman (a pastor I believe) says that ultra liberals must be shaking in their boots watching this movie. I'm sure most of us are laughing at them, however, it is a problem that children are being raised to be ignorant to other cultures and beliefs because its "against god's will. This is why people hate America, because some are raised to be neo-conservative radicals. Which us on the other hand were brought into this by our selves (or at least I hope). But thats just my 2 cents.

[Yardstick]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15, 2007 03:13 pm
one of the camps featured in this documentary is in a suburb of my city.

yeah, I know, I have to deal with them all the time. :angry:
yah the church they are all following is in MY TOWN.

It's really scary watching these kids walk around downtown lee's summit in the exact same places I walk all the time!

On top of that I drive by that church everyday, and I even have some friends who used to go.

[ECD Hollis]

Originally posted by The New [email protected] 18, 2007 12:31 am
I just finished watching this movie, and wow. The movie is good, unlike Micheal Moore films, which are biased slightly for the left (which isn't always a bad thing for us), it gives a even perspective of each side. But over all it shows how conservative America is going after youth of today for their ultimate goal of tomorrow. The woman (a pastor I believe) says that ultra liberals must be shaking in their boots watching this movie. I'm sure most of us are laughing at them, however, it is a problem that children are being raised to be ignorant to other cultures and beliefs because its "against god's will. This is why people hate America, because some are raised to be neo-conservative radicals. Which us on the other hand were brought into this by our selves (or at least I hope). But thats just my 2 cents.
This is not a common thing in America, in fact most teens lean to the left, not the right, so get off the cool aid.

[bloody_capitalist_sham]

One thing i respect jesus for is that he stood up to the roman empire! So, i think its obvious that if Jesus was alive today he would stand against the US empire. Its just a shame christians dont get taught that aspect of the biblical stories.

[ECD Hollis]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20, 2007 03:43 pm
One thing i respect jesus for is that he stood up to the roman empire! So, i think its obvious that if Jesus was alive today he would stand against the US empire. Its just a shame christians dont get taught that aspect of the biblical stories.
I have a question. How much study have you put into the Bible?

[bloody_capitalist_sham]

never even read a page of it im afraid :P

I cant be wrong about jesus with the Romans though can i? I did see the 'life of Brian' after all. About 5 times :D

[ECD Hollis]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20, 2007 03:49 pm
never even read a page of it im afraid :P

I cant be wrong about jesus with the Romans though can i? I did see the 'life of Brian' after all. About 5 times :D
Your wrong in your line of thinking about the matter, yes. I am a Christian so I have put tons of time into studying the Bible.

[bloody_capitalist_sham]

Did Jesus like the Roman Empire? I thought they fed christians to lions and other nasty things?

My grand parents were really religious and made me go to church when i was a youngster. :(

oh well.

[Dr Mindbender]

what gets me is there are some aspects of the bible/christianity, which seem to promote leftism, for example theres that verse about 'the rich man entering the kingdom of god being comparable to the camel entering the eye of a needle!'
It makes me wonder how money loving right wingers ever managed to hijack this.
:blink:

[ECD Hollis]

Originally posted by Ulster [email protected] 20, 2007 03:54 pm
what gets me is there are some aspects of the bible/christianity, which seem to promote leftism, for example theres that verse about 'the rich man entering the kingdom of god being comparable to the camel entering the eye of a needle!'
It makes me wonder how money loving right wingers ever managed to hijack this.
:blink:
Marxism is promoted by the Bible, when the people are truly led by God though. Marxism has failed and will continue to fail because people are sinful and it is human nature to try to gain power, that's why communism failed, because of the dictators need for power.

[Raúl Duke]

This is not a common thing in America, in fact most teens lean to the left, not the right, so get off the cool aid.


In my experience in South Florida, Most teens (in my school) are apathtic (however, some share liberal views...some have none...and some are "moderates"...some are conservatives yet don't care/support the GOP; yet they just don't care much about politics. ) while there's a group of rabid conservative right-wingers. I've only meet 3 lefties in Miami, outside my school.

[ECD Hollis]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20, 2007 03:53 pm
Did Jesus like the Roman Empire? I thought they fed christians to lions and other nasty things?

My grand parents were really religious and made me go to church when i was a youngster. :(

oh well.
Of course he didn't like them, but you can't compares America with the Romans.

Is the US feeding people to lions? No.

[ECD Hollis]

Originally posted by Jo[email protected] 20, 2007 03:56 pm

This is not a common thing in America, in fact most teens lean to the left, not the right, so get off the cool aid.


In my experience in South Florida, Most teens (in my school) are apathtic (however, some share liberal views...some have none...and some are "moderates"...some are conservatives yet don't care/support the GOP; yet they just don't care much about politics. ) while there's a group of rabid conservative right-wingers. I've only meet 3 lefties in Miami, outside my school.
Your kidding, right?

[Raúl Duke]

Nope.

I'm honestly telling the truth.

I live in the South...where do you live?

[bloody_capitalist_sham]

Originally posted by ECD Hollis+July 20, 2007 04:57 pm--> (ECD Hollis @ July 20, 2007 04:57 pm)
[email protected] 20, 2007 03:53 pm
Did Jesus like the Roman Empire? I thought they fed christians to lions and other nasty things?

My grand parents were really religious and made me go to church when i was a youngster. :(

oh well.
Of course he didn't like them, but you can't compares America with the Romans.

Is the US feeding people to lions? No. [/b]
The Roman Empire was a slave society. Its going to look much worse. But the USA owns huge amounts of $1 a day workers in third world country's. Its not too different from real
slavery.

[ECD Hollis]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20, 2007 03:59 pm
Nope.

I'm honestly telling the truth.

I live in the South...where do you live?
South Carolina.

[Raúl Duke]

Well...take in the fact that the majority of the population in South Florida is hispanic...and where I live the majority of them are recent immigrants.

These recent immigrants, the more recent they are the more conservative views. However, this is due to religious considerations; few of them support the GOP or any american party and few are involved politically in anyway. The least recent are mostly moderates or liberals views, yet apathetic. The ones born in the US some are interested in US politics, yet the group that shows its prescence the mosy are GOP backing conservatives. The people who are born here with liberal views seem apathetic though, except with the occasional "end the war in Iraq", etc.

[luxemburg89]

Of course he didn't like them, but you can't compares America with the Romans.

Is the US feeding people to lions? No.


Oh no? And what, pray tell, do you call the McCarthy trials? Is the Iraq war not simply case of predators feeding on their prey? What do you call the actions of the KKK - the product of White Anglo Saxon America. No, perhaps your right, America are like the circus ring-masters, Guantanamo Bay is an example of these ring-masters caging those lions they couldn't tame eh?

[freakazoid]

Marxism is promoted by the Bible, when the people are truly led by God though. Marxism has failed and will continue to fail because people are sinful and it is human nature to try to gain power, that's why communism failed, because of the dictators need for power.

Which is why I say, Long live anarchy!. Also, there are many different forms of communism. Some are susceptible to a dictatorship, others are not. There is not only one kind of communism.


Is the US feeding people to lions? No.

What luxemburg89 said, ^^

[EwokUtopia]

Heres the torrent (http://www.torrentspy.com/torrent/917516/Jesus_Camp_DVDRIP) for the full movie. Its deffinately worth watching. I love how she says she has no political ambitions, but tells her kids to bless a cardboard cutout of Bush.

Christianity is a strange one. The whole concepts of it make Judaism and Islam seem entirely plausable, at least their god doesnt have a split personality disorder or delicious blood.