Reasons For the Soviet Union Dissolution

[Darth Revan]

Why do you think the Soviet Union collapsed ?
i have some of my own theories but i wanna hear you're opinion

[Demogorgon]

The obvious answer is because it was on the brink of Bankruptcy. It had a strong economy but it hadn't reached America's and trying to exceed America on military expenditure was not a good idea. That is the core reason why.

The particular circumstances of course were brought on by politiking by various senior party members but it had withstood that before, so it was economic as I say.

[kaaos_af]

Because counter-revolutionary elements in the bureaucracy, headed by Shushkevich, Kravchuk and Yeltsin, wanted to retain their power before Gorbachev's reforms allowed the de-politicised soviet people to take a renewed interest in socialism, thus putting the bureaucracy at risk.

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by Darth [email protected] 2 2006, 06:12 AM
Why do you think the Soviet Union collapsed ?
i have some of my own theories but i wanna hear you're opinion
Because it was a totalitarian, stagnant piece of fucking shit.

[kaaos_af]

Originally posted by Love Underground+Oct 2 2006, 01:05 PM--> (Love Underground @ Oct 2 2006, 01:05 PM)
Darth [email protected] 2 2006, 06:12 AM
Why do you think the Soviet Union collapsed ?
i have some of my own theories but i wanna hear you're opinion
Because it was a totalitarian, stagnant piece of fucking shit. [/b]
Well, gee, yes, if you are going to be so fucking obvious

[OneBrickOneVoice]

because it spent to much money on communist slogans and poster boards and because of Afghanistan

[Kurt Crover]

I think Afghanistan was the USSR's Vietnam. Gorbachev came to power and stopped the slaughter of Soviet soldiers. But Afghanistan was a costly war for the USSR and it would've bankrupted them totally if they had stayed longer.

[Lamanov]

Bacuse it had flawed relations in production.

There was too much inefficiency and waste in its economic system, due to - on one side - lack of any actual element for functioning workers' socialist society (council system, in particular) - and on the other, real side - because of the soul nature of the bureaucratic system: production was not regulated for the open market, but for the means of reproducing working class as such and bureaucracy above it, by "socialist planning". Becuase workers nor management had no real intrest in efficiency of economy, there existed a prodiction of "defective use-values", things produced only for quantitative result, with no regulator which would guarantee the quality of any product.

[rouchambeau]

It fell apart because it could not maintain a system of capital accumulation.

[Lamanov]

Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2006, 09:11 PM
It fell apart because it could not maintain a system of capital accumulation.

Care to elaborate?

[Intelligitimate]

If you care to actually learn the facts instead of reading the stupid shit anti-communist psuedo-Leftists post here, I suggest getting Revolution From Above: The Demise of the Soviet System by Weir and Kotz.

[Tekun]

Corruption
Dictatorship of the Party
Economic disorganization

They were destined to fail after the revolution, rather than have the soviets and workers in total control, u had the party in power
Which eventually led to its demise

[RNK]

I heard from good sources that the downfall of the Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc was mainly due to a renewed socialist revolution that was essentially taken over and hijacked by fledgeling capitalists and greedy imperialists. In Berlin, for example, during the wall fall, the overwhelming majority of people talked to were excited at the prospect of renewed, true socialism.

Of course the reasons why it collapsed were economic, social and due to foreign (American) pressure.

Also, I'd just like to say, it isn't very helpful when we have so-called Leftists monotonously repeating the capitalist party line that the Soviet Union was nothing more than a totalitarian police state.

[chebol]

http://www.dsp.org.au/site/?q=node/123

[Tekun]

Originally posted by Er[email protected] 3 2006, 05:03 AM
Also, I'd just like to say, it isn't very helpful when we have so-called Leftists monotonously repeating the capitalist party line that the Soviet Union was nothing more than a totalitarian police state.
Gotta love those anarchers... :D

[Xiao Banfa]

The obvious answer is because it was on the brink of Bankruptcy. It had a strong economy but it hadn't reached America's and trying to exceed America on military expenditure was not a good idea. That is the core reason why.

Largely correct.

However, I heard that Shevardnadze and Yeltsin called up Bush sr. and asked: "we're dissolving the USSR, are you backing us" and Bush sr. was pretty down with that.

What a bunch of fucking wankers.

The USSR did not collapse because "communism doesn't work". Socialism did work in the USSR and was a period of human development the oppressed people of the world are still benefiting from today.

The collapse was basically due to a revisionist, bureaucratic and careerist class emerging over decades.

This class had no real interest in socialism and Marxist-Leninism.

Krushchev was a major reason for the growth of this class, even though Krushchev was a sincere anti-capitalist and anti -imperialist.

What a disaster.

[Leo]

The dissolution was a phrase of historical development for Russia. After 69 years of capitalist development with a command economy, the existing system created a crises and the crises resulted in the emergence of individual capitalists.

[rouchambeau]

Care to elaborate?

I think Leo sums up my point pretty well.

[Qwerty Dvorak]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2006, 01:58 AM
If you care to actually learn the facts instead of reading the stupid shit anti-communist psuedo-Leftists post here, I suggest getting Revolution From Above: The Demise of the Soviet System by Weir and Kotz.
Yes, we have books so we don't need the internet.

Moron.