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Red Menace
30th September 2006, 05:02
Okay Comrades I need your help.
I have discovered that I am not the only communist at my school, and that there are others. Non of them have taken the initiative to start a commie club, so I decided I would. I went to talk to the activities person about this, and he said that the deadline has passed, but if I gave him a proposal of what the club would be about, he would think about it. So basically I kinda have to kiss his ass <_< , but I need help on what this will be exactly.
I want us to have discussions and such, but I want to show the school, that we are not all talk. I want the club to do volunteer work, to not only gain sympathisers, but to help the community. I want our group to also form alliences with BSU *black student union* and the Gay/Straight Allience, to discuss key issues.
Do any of you have any good Idea's other than this, to put into the proposal? I really want this you guys. I want to raise awareness at my school.
RNK
30th September 2006, 07:56
Start the Revolution? ;) Train, and undermine capitalist authority in your town.
violencia.Proletariat
30th September 2006, 08:02
If your organization is going to have openly stand for and perpetuate communist ideals I don't think you need to worry about school approval (there is no way in hell they'll give it to you.)
No worries, just do it anyways :P
Red Menace
30th September 2006, 08:08
Originally posted by
[email protected] 29 2006, 11:03 PM
If your organization is going to have openly stand for and perpetuate communist ideals I don't think you need to worry about school approval (there is no way in hell they'll give it to you.)
No worries, just do it anyways :P
Well, typically i think my school is open minded. so i think they would
but they can't do that legally can they? deny that i make a club, if there are a people who wish to join. they can deny me it, cause the deadline was late, but for no reason other than that
Rollo
30th September 2006, 08:17
If they deny you go to your school board.
RNK
30th September 2006, 08:21
Yes, go and ask the very bourgious who manage the system you live to destroy. Surely they will break the capitalist mold and allow their enemy to gain a foothold in their domain.
Jesus, take 20 steps off school property and set up your own god-damned clubhouse -- operating out of their system is completely opposite what communism is about.
violencia.Proletariat
30th September 2006, 08:32
Originally posted by
[email protected] 30 2006, 01:09 AM
but they can't do that legally can they?
Do you go to public or private school?
deny that i make a club, if there are a people who wish to join.
If the administration can "prove" that what your group advocates is contrary to the learning enviornment in courty, then yes they can deny the right. However, this is all under the theoretical "justice" of the state. In reality we know that these rules are bent or obliterated in order to suit those in power.
they can deny me it, cause the deadline was late, but for no reason other than that
You have to ask yourself, is it practical. Is it really necessary to get school approval? If you need to meet on school grounds for efficiency purposes (because people have other things going on after school/weekends) then yes try and get approval. If this isn't necessary then don't even bother. You can agitate for your organization in school without using school channels. If your organization is succesful the administration can do little in controlling it since you wouldn't be officialy operating in the school. Since you have better knowledge of your situation, it's your choice to make. I suggest you discuss this with those interested.
RedKnight
2nd October 2006, 01:05
I think that you need a faculty adviser to set up a student group. So you had better hope that at least one teacher is sympathetic. P.S. Why is there a Black Student Union and not also a White Student Union?(sarcasm) I do not believe that there should be clubs based on ethnicity.
cenv
2nd October 2006, 09:05
As far as what to do... distribute communist literature, publish articles, take part in local leftist events, even try organizing some protests at your school. That as well as discussions should keep you relatively busy. Of course, you might not want to include all of that in your proposal. I'd say that mentioning what you said about helping the community and then adding what I suggested about publishing a leftist periodical of some sort will get you points, although I'd be somewhat surprised if a communist club got approved.
Good luck. Even if things don't work out as far as having an official school club, try to organize some sort of unofficial group. I'm going to try to start a leftist club at my school too, so I know the situation you're in.
Red Menace
3rd October 2006, 06:19
Originally posted by
[email protected] 1 2006, 04:06 PM
I think that you need a faculty adviser to set up a student group. So you had better hope that at least one teacher is sympathetic. P.S. Why is there a Black Student Union and not also a White Student Union?(sarcasm) I do not believe that there should be clubs based on ethnicity.
well thanks for the support guys
I think that you need a faculty adviser to set up a student group. So you had better hope that at least one teacher is sympathetic. P.S. Why is there a Black Student Union and not also a White Student Union?(sarcasm) I do not believe that there should be clubs based on ethnicity.
To approve it, yes, but there is only one, so its irrelevant if he's sympathetic, he'll either do it or he won't. I do have to find a sympathetic teacher sponser though, which I believe I have found.
As for the BSU and the WSU lol, I agreee with you, but, they are an oppresed group at my school, full of rich white kids. so, i guess its a good thing for now, im not sure.
Janus
4th October 2006, 02:09
So basically I kinda have to kiss his ass
In that case, I would recommend that you not form an official school club because there are a lot of bureaucratic guidelines that go with that but rather to form an unaffiliated group or something at your school.
Also, the activities coord. will probably ask you to broaden the political leanings of your club.
Rawthentic
4th October 2006, 03:47
Are you in high school or college? Cuz damn, if youre in high school and you have comrades, then bless you, because Ive been a communist for about a year. Im a junior now and can do like zero because I am alone. You are lucky, so take advantage.
Nothing Human Is Alien
4th October 2006, 05:12
You can do alot of things alone. The key though, is to organize more workers / working class youths.
Rawthentic
4th October 2006, 05:42
Im gonna try to distribute FPM publications if I recieve more than one copy of the Free Press :) . Im also gonna join this thing called the Citizenship Project (http://www.newcitizen.org/english/english.htm). Its a project whose main goal is the legalization of immigrants, and is a grassroots organizer as well. Its aims are not radical, but there I can get into contact with others and explain the FPM's positions on immigration and connect that with the anto-capitalist struggle.
which doctor
4th October 2006, 05:46
If you wanna attract a lot of students then discuss students' issues such as students' rights and youth liberation. It's not hard to see that students at my schools hate school If yoand want their voices to be heard. Most of them understand that schools are just tools of the bourgeois used to control the flow of information.
Red Menace
4th October 2006, 06:53
Originally posted by
[email protected] 3 2006, 06:48 PM
Are you in high school or college? Cuz damn, if youre in high school and you have comrades, then bless you, because Ive been a communist for about a year. Im a junior now and can do like zero because I am alone. You are lucky, so take advantage.
im in high school. I don't know them very well, cause I just found out that others like me existed, so i decided to form a club for us. I am a junior as well, so I've been alone for quite some time. Don't worry comrade, you will find people like yourself. I know you will, cause my school is filled with conservative reactionary cappies, and if there are leftists here, there will definetly be leftists at your school
As for the rest of you, thank you for your advice and support
LoneRed
4th October 2006, 09:31
Hasta you're in the league right?
I think i told you, but we have articles on legalization of immigrants, and the May 1st demonstrations. Good luck comrade
Little brother
5th October 2006, 16:38
Your story of bringing your ideas to your school is an uplifting one for kids like me and you stuck in high school. I however haven't been able to find the support you have found.
But your story is uplifting anway.
Rawthentic
6th October 2006, 05:04
Originally posted by
[email protected] 3 2006, 10:32 PM
Hasta you're in the league right?
I think i told you, but we have articles on legalization of immigrants, and the May 1st demonstrations. Good luck comrade
Yeah, Im in the League. Ill try to find those articles, hoping that they are still somewhat relevant and not outdated.
which doctor
6th October 2006, 06:02
Here's something I just found that may interest some of you.
The complexities of this as a theoretical and practical task should not be understated. For instance, when seeking to reveal and reverse the apparent advantages of some high school students, ourselves very much included, we must take into account the class position of whom they are financially dependent on (i.e. are they apart of the dispossessed, that is, are they separated from the conditions of their existence or are they involved in the appropriation of others’ time). In my opinion, what is of more importance than any other factor is our individual and collective aversion to our role in capital and our desire to destroy it. The autonomous struggles of less privileged groups of high school students against the specifics of their oppression can galvanise the general project of deschooling that lay in the interests of all.
Like hundreds of others I’m sure, I understand and share your frustration with the complacency of fellow high schoolers but frankly it sounds as if your approach may be the first thing in need of change. The view that the apathetic, the apolitical, the amorphous mass will arrive at – and actually long for - a revolutionary consciousness from without is one of the things that typifies the Left. High school students – like the vast majority of other average people – don’t want to be sold another ideology or sacrifice the few hours of their life outside of school to the noble cause of activism. Taking a sanctimonious stance is never conducive to student rebellion or social revolt and is more likely to widen the gulf between revolutionary and non-revolutionary high school students. We must discover and experiment with a diversity of tactics that minimises that separation. If you wish to motivate kids around you I would suggest that you start by exploring methods and actions that help to increase and intensify existing discontent. How many students, no matter how rich and stupid, would be object to taking over the school for a day or collectively skipping school all together? Or how about squats, street parties or sabotage? One hour of festive revolt or joyous absenteeism can accomplish more in the way of revolutionary consciousness than weeks of homilies ever could.
It's from Anarchist Youth.
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