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Lenin's Law
28th September 2006, 03:39
Comrades,

I would like to know if any of you have joined a Communist Party, especially but not including the USA as that is where I am from. If you could tell me information about it I would be very much interested as I am actively researching which Party to join. I notice there are a few comrades here that still embrace Marxism-Leninism and it is those Comrades I wish to hear from if at all possible.


It's about time we started a true party in the USA based on the true principles of Marxism-Leninism:

:hammer:

http://www.reichslieder.com/0121_ussr_comrades.jpg

Wanted Man
28th September 2006, 05:56
I believe that Krovin guy is working with some other people on something or another. But I have no idea about the details. PM him, I guess. :)

AmerGuerilla
28th September 2006, 10:17
Try www.internationalistsocialist.org

Tekun
28th September 2006, 13:15
Don't waste your time with those revisionists, grassroot movements are the way to go
Also...this belongs in practice

Wanted Man
28th September 2006, 15:44
These are the US parties that take part in the International Communist Seminar:

http://www.workers.org/
http://www.frso.org/

Also, this one couldn't attend the last time, but sent their solidarity:

http://www.pslweb.org/site/PageServer

More about the ICS: http://www.wpb.be/icm.htm

AmerGuerrilla, your link's a dud.

Xiao Banfa
28th September 2006, 16:28
I think I'd probably join the RCP.

Zeruzo
28th September 2006, 20:53
Err, mathijs the first one you gave is Trotskyist :). Even though they do support the USSR, etc...

here's anti-revisionist party's of the world for a huge list :P:

http://www.broadleft.org/antirevi.htm

I'd check out Matthijs's mini-list too (specially the second one looking at you're ideology).

edit: ps. http://www.broadleft.org/us.htm

Pawn Power
28th September 2006, 21:13
If you are looking for Marxist-Leninists you should look into PLP (http://www.plp.org/).

While I disagree with much of the politics of the Progressive Labor Party they do claim to fight for direct revolution. I know some good working class people who are in the PLP. They do a lot of organizing and protests against Klan rallies and such. And they are invloved in organizing in blue collar workers and students to an extent. They mainly work out of NYC though.

Zeruzo
28th September 2006, 21:24
PLP is far from anti-revisionist Marxist-Leninist, they're some odd form of Anarcho-Leninism...

Lenin's Law
28th September 2006, 22:21
Originally posted by Tino [email protected] 28 2006, 01:29 PM
I think I'd probably join the RCP.
The RCP is Maoist, somewhat reformist, and is very upper-middle class, not working class. I have respect for Mao as a leader but I am more of a Marxist-Leninist. I want a Communist Party with its roots in the working class and who have unapologetically embraced the legacy of Marx, Lenin and the Soviet Union before it went over to the revisionists.

Zeruzo
28th September 2006, 23:59
http://www.frso.org/

This party is anti-revisionist Marxist-Leninist but does support revisionist states such as Cuba, etc... as Socialist.

Wanted Man
29th September 2006, 00:32
And rightly so. They, like the NCPN, take part in the International Communist Seminar which seeks to reconcile the post-war pro-Soviet, pro-Chinese, pro-Albanian and pro-Cuban tendencies which all split from each other at some point. Ask Ludo Martens:

http://www.wpb.be/icm/95enprop.htm

Janus
29th September 2006, 02:04
Moved to Practice.

OneBrickOneVoice
29th September 2006, 02:51
Originally posted by Stalin's Law+Sep 28 2006, 07:22 PM--> (Stalin's Law @ Sep 28 2006, 07:22 PM)
Tino [email protected] 28 2006, 01:29 PM
I think I'd probably join the RCP.
The RCP is Maoist, somewhat reformist, and is very upper-middle class, not working class. I have respect for Mao as a leader but I am more of a Marxist-Leninist. I want a Communist Party with its roots in the working class and who have unapologetically embraced the legacy of Marx, Lenin and the Soviet Union before it went over to the revisionists. [/b]
hmmm well the biggest Marxist-Leninist Party in the US is the RCP...

ZeroPain
29th September 2006, 03:48
Eh... the RCP has to much of a cult of personality around chairmen bob...

angus_mor
29th September 2006, 04:28
The PLP is an excellent one; they're a mass working class organization that started off as maoist but almost completely rejected Leninism after Mao proved himself to be a reactionary leader, coming up with reactionary justifications for his status quo; "New Democracy". I think they're anti-vanguard, but they actually have something which other Leninist organizations don't; abolishing the wage system. So far they're the only ones I can think of who have spoken out against using money in post-revolutionary society, which may bring us closer to true Communism.

But there's one thing that's bothering me here; you speak of anti-revisionism, but wasn't Stalin himself quite revisionist? Socialism in ONE COUNTRY? Isn't that a complete about-face? Even REACTIONARY? I'd have to say even vanguardism is reactionary; this kind of intellectualism has done nothing but give capitalism a new name, justification and despotic, designated master, one which working class efforts can not overcome.

Nothing Human Is Alien
29th September 2006, 04:36
In the U.S., for the sort of group you're talking about (minus the connection with workers) you have Ray O. Light. You can contact them at:

Boxholder DLD-354
58 Batterymarch St.
Boston, MA 02110
USA

In an earlier thread about two weeks ago, when someone asked the same question, I pointed out that there is a group calling for the creation of a party exactly like the one you're talking about.. here's there info if you want to get in touch with them:

Marxist-Leninist Organizer
PO Box 1854
Manhattanville Sta.
New York, NY 10027

There's also USMLO (http://www.usmlo.org/)

Nothing Human Is Alien
29th September 2006, 04:37
So far they're the only ones I can think of who have spoken out against using money in post-revolutionary society..

There was the Communist Party of Kampuchea (Khmer Rouge).

angus_mor
29th September 2006, 20:06
LOL the KHMER ROUGE?! Yes, that bloodbath was DEFINITELY a successful, positive experience for the working class; despotic, ethnic nationalist genocide is EVERYONE'S ideal, classless society now isn't it? Can anyone atleast show me one example of Leninism that didn't involve some form of ideological genocidal purging? Stalin's Show Trials; Mao's Cultural Revolution; Kim Il Sung's regime continued by Kim Jong Il, is any of this sounding redundantly familiar? I suppose Cuba's done well without resorting to such cowardice and opportunism. I say forget Marxist-Leninists; they've only forgotten what Marxism IS.

pastradamus
29th September 2006, 21:25
Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2006, 05:07 PM
I say forget Marxist-Leninists; they've only forgotten what Marxism IS.
Right on man!

CombatLiberalism
29th September 2006, 22:03
If you think that amerikkkans are a bunch of bought off imperialist pigs, you can always check out irtr.org or www.etext.org/Politics/MIM

Rawthentic
30th September 2006, 00:58
Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2006, 02:16 AM
Don't waste your time with those revisionists, grassroot movements are the way to go
Also...this belongs in practice
What do you mean by grassroots movements? Which organizations?

Nothing Human Is Alien
30th September 2006, 03:04
Right on man!

Says the guy with a Che avatar :lol:

pastradamus
30th September 2006, 03:29
All the progressive communist movements are under surveilence in the united states, so they are all untimetly flawed to begin with.

LoneRed
30th September 2006, 04:41
they may be under surveillance but what groups in what countries aren't?

Also their are ones that are under less, or known less about by the gov than others

Zeruzo
30th September 2006, 18:18
Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2006, 07:04 PM
If you think that amerikkkans are a bunch of bought off imperialist pigs, you can always check out irtr.org or www.etext.org/Politics/MIM
He already said: no Maoist party...

CombatLiberalism
1st October 2006, 17:55
Sorry, didn't read the qualification. But, you have to realize others read these threads too and they may be interested in Maoism.

Zeruzo
1st October 2006, 21:30
Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2006, 02:56 PM
Sorry, didn't read the qualification. But, you have to realize others read these threads too and they may be interested in Maoism.
Well yes, i already gave a huge list with all anti-revisionist parties in the world.