I need some examples

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hey guys

me and my rreligiousand totally red white and blue blinded dad got in an arguement the other day about 2 things

A. the importance of this site and its message
B. that the united states of whatdafugever's gov't has ever silenced or strained the media form releasing certain stories hurting bush's or any other rightists policies

he believes that the government doesn't do any of that and that we have free press
BULL****!!!!!

[Connolly]

A. the importance of this site and its message

Im not sure what you want on this point, but I suppose how important it is depends on a persons politics. Stormfront would be important for a fascist, Revleft for a communist.
Revlefts message of the necessity of a revolutionary overthrow to achieve a classless system is something which should be important to the working class, for the moment though, at least here, they havnt come to that conclusion yet.


B. that the united states of whatdafugever's gov't has ever silenced or strained the media form releasing certain stories hurting bush's or any other rightists policies

The media is a difficult thing to expose as not being independent and free at all, but I think if you search YOUTUBE.com for chomsky, you will find a series of three 10min video's called "Chomsky vs Andrew Marr" - in this, chomsky explains quite well his position and theories on the bourgeois media, IMO, rather well.

Hope that helps :)

[which doctor]

The corporate media doesn't need to be silenced, they are controled by the ruling class.

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you guys haved missed the point but thzx for the comsky videos that was informative

[Mujer Libre]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2006, 09:37 PM
The corporate media doesn't need to be silenced, they are controled by the ruling class.
Yup- they're part of the system so they censor themselves in order to maximise profit and reduce censure from business/the government. You could point him in the direction of Manufacturing Consent by Chomsky; although the examples are obviously quite dated.

[Seafire]

The US has been in the propaganda/disinformation business for decades. Of recent note read these:

Chemical Judy Fallout (http://olm.blythe-systems.com/pipermail/nytr/Week-of-Mon-20040524/001886.html)
NY Times' Chemical Judy (http://olm.blythe-systems.com/pipermail/nytr/Week-of-Mon-20040524/001871.html)
PR Firm Gets Million$ More for Iraq Propaganda (http://olm.blythe-systems.com/pipermail/nytr/Week-of-Mon-20060925/047002.html)
campaign of Stooge Journalism (http://olm.blythe-systems.com/pipermail/nytr/Week-of-Mon-20051212/028591.html)
Buying the Press (http://olm.blythe-systems.com/pipermail/nytr/Week-of-Mon-20060821/043928.html)
The Media & the Caracas Coup (http://www.blythe.org/nytransfer-subs/Covert_Actions/The_Media_-and-_the_Caracas_Coup,_Cont'd)
Venez: More Black Propaganda (http://olm.blythe-systems.com/pipermail/nytr/Week-of-Mon-20050328/014977.html)
The US propaganda machine (http://olm.blythe-systems.com/pipermail/nytr/Week-of-Mon-20060327/034461.html)
The Bad News Is the Good News Is Fake (http://olm.blythe-systems.com/pipermail/nytr/Week-of-Mon-20051205/027866.html)
Media Held Guilty of Deception (http://olm.blythe-systems.com/pipermail/nytr/Week-of-Mon-20050214/013302.html)
Whistleblowers from Fox News Reveal Bias (http://olm.blythe-systems.com/pipermail/nytr/Week-of-Mon-20040705/003442.html)

If you need more, just go to: News Archive Search (http://olm.blythe-systems.com/htdig/search.html) pop in what you want to look for. I have about 10 years of archived/indexed news there. Enjoy.

Seafire