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Intifada
24th September 2006, 16:19
The New York Times newspaper has published what it says are the findings of a classified US intelligence paper on the effects of the Iraq war.

The document reportedly blames the conflict for increasing the threat of terrorism and helping fuel Islamic radicalism worldwide.

Such a conclusion is at odds with the White House's persistent claim that going to war has made the world safer.

The paper has not seen the report, but spoke to people familiar with it.

Comprehensive study

The BBC's defence correspondent Rob Watson says this is not the first time the US intelligence community has said that the war in Iraq has made the problem of Islamist extremism worse.

Indeed it had warned that might happen even before the US-led invasion.

But, our correspondent says, this latest finding, known as a National Intelligence Estimate, is the most comprehensive report yet, based on the considered analysis of all 16 of America's intelligence agencies.

According to the New York Times, which has spoken to officials who have either read it, or been involved in drafting it, the report says the invasion and occupation of Iraq has spawned a new generation of Islamic radicalism that has spread across the globe.

It also warns that Islamic militants who have fought in Iraq could foment radicalism and violence when they return to their home countries, much as returning Jihadis did after the war against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan in the 1980s.

Al-Qaeda threat

It reportedly concludes that, while al-Qaeda may have been weakened since the 11 September 2001 attacks, the radical Islamic movement worldwide has strengthened with the formation of new groups and cells who are inspired by Osama Bin Laden, but not under his direct control.

The report will make uncomfortable reading at the White House, our correspondent says. In a series of recent speeches, President George W Bush has been portraying the war in Iraq as the central front in the war on terrorism.

This report implies while that may be true, that it is a front of America's own making.

In the past, Mr Bush has dismissed such reasoning by arguing that Islamic militants had hated the US long before it invaded Iraq, or even Afghanistan for that matter.

BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5375064.stm)

colonelguppy
24th September 2006, 22:05
what we really need to do is back off from the middle east and give the counter-culture a chance to gain a voice. it seems that the perceived threat from the west makes the reactionaries views seem viable for the moderates.

Janus
25th September 2006, 02:21
Yeah, Bush's whole "security from terror" arguement is now destroyed and the Republicans are in a pickle (not including the dissent concerning torture).


Originally posted by AP
The Washington Post said the report described the Iraq conflict as the primary recruiting vehicle for violent Islamic extremists.
"While the US has seriously damaged Al-Qaeda and disrupted its ability to carry out major operations since the September 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington, it noted, radical Islamic networks have spread and decentralized.

And the Democrats are milking this as much as possible

Dems seize on Iraq report to attack GOP (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060924/ap_on_go_co/us_iraq)

Janus
25th September 2006, 02:24
A report that the United States purportedly threatened military action against Pakistan shortly after the Sept. 11 attacks drew a sharp response and some protest in Pakistan Friday.

A spokesman for Pakistan's largest hard-line Islamic group predicted the issue would further enrage ordinary Pakistanis, who have long believed that they were forced "at gunpoint" into supporting the war on terror.

"The temperature and anger will rise among Pakistanis because they will see that the Americans do not want dialogue or communication, but are instead exploiting a situation and compelling (Pakistani leader Gen. Pervez) Musharraf to support them," said Ameer ul-Azeem, of the opposition Islamic coalition Mutahida Majlis-e-Amal, also called MMA.


Musharraf said that after the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, Richard Armitage, the former American deputy secretary of state, warned Pakistan's intelligence chief that U.S. forces could bomb Pakistan if it did not switch support from the pro-al-Qaida Taliban regime in Afghanistan to the U.S.-led war on terror.

"The intelligence director told me that (Armitage) said, 'Be prepared to go back to the Stone Age,'" Musharraf told CBS' "60 Minutes" in an interview to air Sunday.

Musharraf said he reacted responsibly. "One has to think and take actions in the interests of the nation and that is what I did."

But he added: "I thought it was a very rude remark."
Musharraf's comments rattle Pakistanis (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060923/ap_on_re_as/pakistan_us;_ylt=Au3RvMtbFufLZvIgKW6RrbQBxg8F;_ylu =X3oDMTBjMHVqMTQ4BHNlYwN5bnN1YmNhdA--)

It's one thing to say "you're either with us or against us" and quite another to say "We'll bomb you back to the Stone Age."

Bush is facing some serious problems these days now that most of his supposedly "solid" arguements and alliances are quite hollow.