Warsaw to get statue

[Clutch]

Are they for real?

WARSAW (Reuters) - Polish admirers of Ronald Reagan plan to raise a statue of the former U.S president in Warsaw, where he is revered for his role in the downfall of communism in Europe.

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews....AGAN.xml&rpc=92 (http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=politicsNews&storyid=2006-09-18T150104Z_01_L18839909_RTRUKOC_0_US-POLAND-REAGAN.xml&rpc=92)

[Okocim]

ergh, possibly - the Polish president has recently been toadying up to Bush even more than usual.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Yeah, unfortunately Poland is extremely reactionary right now.

[James]

....also consider polands history.

The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact saw "stalinist russia" invade their country in an alliance with the nazis (that in itself would justify some serious negative feeling). And then towards the end of the war, stalinist russia "liberated" poland from nazi rule and granted them englightened stalinist rule.

To be surprised at polish negative feelings toward russia/sovietism (and thus positive feelings toward the enemy of their enemy; america), is a bit like being surprised that iraq's tend to dislike the coalition.

[Guerrilla22]

I'd like to see Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras and Nicaragua put up some statues dedicated to all the people that were murdered in central america due to Reagan's policies.

[The Grey Blur]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2006, 06:33 PM
I'd like to see Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras and Nicaragua put up some statues dedicated to all the people that were murdered in central america do to Reagan's policies.
I get Nicarague and El Salvador and (kinda) Honduras but wouldn't Guatemala be before Reagan's time?

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

He's not talking about during Arbenez. He's talking about during the revolution that started in 1960 and ended in 96 (with the URNG and the Guatemala government), and the U.S. sponsored genocide that took place.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guatemalan_Civil_War

[The Grey Blur]

Thanks

[More Fire for the People]

This is just another spectacular objectification of the growth of reactionary capitalism in Poland. Poland, like many ex-Warsaw Pact states, is going through a phase that combines primitive accumulation of capital and the enormous profits of imperialist capitalism. This combination combines the necessity of reactionary ideas in the oppression of marginalized elements—like the white man’s ‘burden’ towards the Native Americans—and the ability of corporations to absorb the most culturally backward elements into their overall economic programme.

[Karl Marx's Camel]

If there was one place I had expected this, it would be Poland. No big suprise there. -_-


Yeah, unfortunately Poland is extremely reactionary right now.
I concur.

[Ander]

I'm pretty sure that Poland is a very Catholic nation as well.

[Okocim]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2006, 11:04 PM
I'm pretty sure that Poland is a very Catholic nation as well.
something like 90% practising catholics.

crazy shit there.

[Organic Revolution]

its an issue of human nature, to say the least. you normally look up to the person who aids in 'liberating' you from a bad situation, even if that person is as bad or worse.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

I'm pretty sure that Poland is a very Catholic nation as well.

Revolutions have happened in countries that were just as religious.

[Janus]

I'm sure Reagen took down the Iron Curtain all by himself. :rolleyes:

Anyways, a lot of people came out in their support for the late Pope as well who was a similar figurehead to Reagen.

[Tekun]

No wonder, seeing how the statue is being funded by Poles in the US, Canada, and Poland...
I doubt that the common Polish worker would agree to use the funds to erect some lousy statue, I think they're more concerned with lowering the unemployment rate, which is among the highest in Europe (18.2%)

[EwokUtopia]

I really hope that this statue gets toppled by an angry mob and put on international television while its being dragged through the streets. Oh, and I hope that this event isnt organized by the US army this time...