Hugo Chavez is a tolatarian dictator

[grove street]

America's favourite propaganda machine Fox news has stated that Chavez is on his way to turn the 50 years of democracy in Venezula into a tolatarian dictatorship, the article is all here.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,146472,00.html

Fox News seems to amaze me, they constantly paint Bush and America of fighters of justice trying to bring peace and order to the world, yet when someone like Chavez comes along and walks the walk as well as talk the talk when it comes to helping the poor around the world even in America he gets labeled an evil man.

What I love most about this article is how fox news is trying to defend the helpless landowners who are having their land lived on by the evil smelly peasants. Oh the humanity. :lol:

[dannie]

One U.S. State Department official noted, "We shoot down MiGs."

lol at america's complexity

this has been going on since chavez got elected, he makes fun of bush and condi, they attack him back.
It's like little kids on the playground, altough chavez is damn funny sometimes

[Jamal]

Yeah, when ever he corners them with the facts, they go on throwing out accusations on him, like: dictator, terrorist, hroviding fertile grounds for terrorists, drug dealing... and many more blames.

But who is still listening to them?

[kingbee]

I love their "We Report. You Decide" slogan. It's unbelievable.

[Mesijs]

It's obvious that there's a lot of propaganda involved and not so much independent journalism. However, does anybody know more about this:


Chavez has packed the Supreme Court and the army with his supporters, seized control of the country's wealth and introduced a penal code that criminalizes dissent. Anyone who opposes him faces violence or prison.

Pictures showing violence against anti-Chavez protestors no longer are allowed to be shown on public or private Venezuelan television; the government claims it's protecting children from scenes of violence.

"Our own journalists don't know whether they can show whatever it is they are trying to cover," said Ana Christina Nunez, legal counsel for Globovision, the country's only 24-hour news channel.

And please don't say 'oh, that's fake propaganda', but could anything give me some independent facts about it?

[Jamal]

Anyone can get pictures of people getting hit and photoshop them into protest pictures(if that is the case) so pictures are never proof of anything.

[bloody_capitalist_sham]

its fucking rediculous.

There are so many families like the Bush family that are all streched over and threaded into the american political system.

So, when a left winger does somthing similar, but nowhere as bad, you get " omg dictator, totalitarian communism, blah blah blah"

[grove street]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2006, 03:44 PM
Anyone can get pictures of people getting hit and photoshop them into protest pictures(if that is the case) so pictures are never proof of anything.
Just like all the private tv channels in Veneuzala edited the footage of the Chavez supporters shooting at the snipers to make it look like they were shooting at the 'peaceful' anti Chavez protesters. When in fact those snipers were anti Chavez and shooting at the pro-Chavez rally. What is really amazing is that the edited anti Chavez propaganda of the shooting is what aired on American and other western tv.

[cb9's_unity]

fox really did do quite a good job at putting in half truths and leaving out real facts.
here are some they may have "forgotten"
-chavez filled the army with his supporters because the guys he originally had participated in the coup to take down his government
-the columbians along with the americans are actually sponsoring guerilla fighters to take out chavez
-the media in venezuela has outright lied in order to make chavez look bad
hears everything that fox seems to have forgotten
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=58...televised&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5832390545689805144&q=the+revolution+will+not+be+televised&hl=en)

[Dominicana_1965]

Lmao :D
Fox needs to tell another joke.

[OneBrickOneVoice]

If I didn&#39;t know that it was a fox news article I would have assumed the article was some dillusional neo-con blog entry <_<

[Janus]

This is nothing new.

I find it funny that they hail Bush as the "leader of the free world" when he didn&#39;t even get the majority of the popular votes.

[piet11111]

"I spent 20 days without looking at the sun, the air, the sky," said Capriles, the Baruta mayor who was once thrown into solitary confinement for opposing Chavez.

thats proof enough chavez is a good guy if it was up to me this guy would have been serving many years in jail.

[BreadBros]

So this is what, like the 100th time this year that Fox News prints something like this? Nothing new. When Fox News starts praising Chavez, thats when we should be worried&#33;

[LSD]

Chavez&#39;s opponents admit he is popular, especially among the poor. But being popular, they say, does not give the president the right to do whatever he wants.

Yeah, &#39;cause we can&#39;t have democracy... :rolleyes:

[Hiero]

Chavez made a smart move by removing the pro-American and American advisors from his military. In Chile 1973 the Pinochet coup went so well because there were American advisors in the military.

Chavez by removing them safegaurds the countries future. If a political coup occurs, it will be crushed by the military. If the imperialist invade, the military will not commite treason.

Capitalist countries promote the idea that the military is apolitical. This is not the case, the military is very political. The US military serves and promotes US interests. Because Venzuela is changing from a neo-colony to a independent nation, they must change the army. The army must be political educated and supportive of the change. Any opposition in the army is a threat to the nation.

[grove street]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2006, 06:09 AM
Chavez made a smart move by removing the pro-American and American advisors from his military. In Chile 1973 the Pinochet coup went so well because there were American advisors in the military.

Chavez by removing them safegaurds the countries future. If a political coup occurs, it will be crushed by the military. If the imperialist invade, the military will not commite treason.

Capitalist countries promote the idea that the military is apolitical. This is not the case, the military is very political. The US military serves and promotes US interests. Because Venzuela is changing from a neo-colony to a independent nation, they must change the army. The army must be political educated and supportive of the change. Any opposition in the army is a threat to the nation.
Well he&#39;s already survived one military coup and it doesn&#39;t take a genius to figure that America was behind it, just the very fact that the opposition meet the Bush administration a week before it happened makes America look very suspecious.

In the words of Hugo Chavez. &#39;If America invades Venezula then the war of 100 years will be unleashed onto South America&#39;

[Tekun]

Chavez has packed the Supreme Court and the army with his supporters, seized control of the country&#39;s wealth and introduced a penal code that criminalizes dissent. Anyone who opposes him faces violence or prison.

First off, Chavez can&#39;t pack the Supreme Court with his supporters
Members of the Supreme Tribunal of Justice are elected by the National Assembly
And members of the National Assembly are elected by popular vote (last elections were in June 05)
Therefore, if there are a number of Chavez supporters in the Supreme Tribunal, it has nothing to do with Chavez but with the popularity of Chavez&#39;s party members and their appeal to the ppl of Venezuela
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Venezuela

Chavez&#39;s Bolivarian Mission requires that the state use all the means possible to reduce unemployment, poverty, crime, and other social ills
Therefore, why shouldn&#39;t the government use the resources available to them
And although poverty is still very existant, I would argue that Venezuela could probably solve all of its social problems if all the industries in Venezuela were nationalized and under the control of workers and peasants
Would u rather have foreign investors controling Venezuela&#39;s resources?

First off, Chavez can&#39;t introduce or approve of laws, that&#39;s the task of the National Assembly (which again, is voted in by popular vote)
The government introduced harsher penalties for libel, defamation, and insult
But this has nothing to do with cutting down on dissent, if so thousands of ppl would be in prison and the Human Rights Watch would be protesting to the UN, but so far nothing of the sort has happened





Pictures showing violence against anti-Chavez protestors no longer are allowed to be shown on public or private Venezuelan television; the government claims it&#39;s protecting children from scenes of violence.

Well, who exactly is directing this violence towards opponents of Chavez?
It isn&#39;t the government, it may be the ppl of Venezuela that are Chavistas, but there is no law that proposes or supports such action
And why shouldn&#39;t the government cut down on violence on TV? Even in the US, they don&#39;t allow that type of content to be shown on TV
Have you ever seen capitol police beating up anti-war demonstrators in downtown DC? Nope...
Would u want the government to show every inch of violence in Venezuela? Maybe air a couple of murders a week, and one of two decapitations a month?
C&#39;mon now, where&#39;d u get these ridiculous claims?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Hugo_Ch%C3%A1vez