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piet11111
18th September 2006, 18:46
"gordon they are waiting for you in the test chamber !"*
link (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/topic/story.cfm?c_id=325&objectid=10400645)
* They estimate the possibility of accidentally destroying the planet as extremely low.
* The risk is calculated at about 10 to the minus 40 - a 1 in 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 ,000 chance.
in my opinion this is going to be one of the most important scientific experiments since the discovery of nuclear energy.
also the chance of blowing up the planet is so small its almost tempting to flick the switch as soon as possible.
(*half-life refference where scientists open a gateway to another dimension causing the earth to be overrun by nasty aliens)
loveme4whoiam
18th September 2006, 20:47
Oh, well if its that low, its okay then :lol:
Originally posted by Brian Cox
"There has never been such a jump in particle physics. It will go into an area that we don't really understand," he added.
Jiub
18th September 2006, 21:10
Uhh let's hope all will go alright.
Goatse
18th September 2006, 21:21
Originally posted by
[email protected] 18 2006, 06:11 PM
Uhh let's hope all will go alright.
Oh come on, you might as well go and hide in the corner for fear of being hit by a car when you go outside. Hell, you might as well kill yourself now, to avoid being hit by a meteor, if you're worried by those kind of chances.
Janus
19th September 2006, 01:16
Very interesting. 27 km? That's huge. CERN seems to be extremely well-funded and quite cutting edge (something that many Americans don't really see). Anyways, hopefully this experiment will give us some good info. rather than just a rumble in the mountains. :P
Jazzratt
19th September 2006, 13:54
I hope they get some concrete results out of this, something to advance our understanding of particle physics (and therefore the nature of our universe.). The idea of this is making me alivate with expectation.
bloody_capitalist_sham
19th September 2006, 14:59
wow this is crazy.
What do they mean by a different dimension though?
like stargate lol?
Phugebrins
19th September 2006, 17:16
"They estimate the possibility of accidentally destroying the planet as extremely low."
And best of all, if all hell breaks loose, no-one will be left to complain!
MrDoom
19th September 2006, 17:38
Uhh let's hope all will go alright.
And if we all die? No one would be around to miss us. :D
Janus
20th September 2006, 04:58
What do they mean by a different dimension though?
like stargate lol?
Supposedly there are other dimensions in addition to the 4 which we know about (3 space and one time). So far these dimensions can only be shown in math or on paper. These dimensions are invisible since they are kind of "rolled up".
which doctor
20th September 2006, 05:19
I heard that we can't see these other dimensions (I think they're are 12 proposed dimensions or so) because they are too small.
MrDoom
20th September 2006, 05:22
I've heard upwards of 21 dimensions.
Janus
20th September 2006, 05:26
I heard that we can't see these other dimensions (I think they're are 12 proposed dimensions or so) because they are too small.
In a way, yes.
For example, here's an analogy. If you looked at the telephone lines outside your home, only one dimension would seem to exist, the length in that you see it as a line. However, if you were an ant climbing across the telephone line, you could explore more than one dimension since you could go around the circumference of the line.
ComradeRed
20th September 2006, 06:35
Originally posted by
[email protected] 19 2006, 06:23 PM
I've heard upwards of 21 dimensions.
Well, you see, how it works is: you begin with 4. Then you add one for good luck. Then you double it for super symmetry.
We've got 10, right? Add another for good luck.
Then depending on whether you use super symmetry again, you double it.
So we're up to 22, then add 5 for no apparent reason.
(In case you couldn't tell, this is written just to spite the String theorists we have here...I know we have at least 3!)
Janus
20th September 2006, 06:44
I've heard upwards of 21 dimensions.
It varies depending on the theory. In string theory, there have been upwards of 26. Whitten later reduced it to 11 and then that number was changed again I think.
bezdomni
21st September 2006, 05:24
Most string theorists think there are 11 dimensions (reduced from 27) these days.
Most scientists think there are 4. :P
CERN is badass.
Janus
21st September 2006, 05:45
Most string theorists think there are 11 dimensions
Dude, it was just Whitten's birthday so they added another one. :P
reduced from 27
There were originally many variations which Whitten was able to unify with his M Theory.
CERN is badass.
Yes, very cutting edge and utilizes skills and research from huge numbers of scientists worldwide.
razboz
9th October 2006, 22:13
Haha when the world is destroyed by twinkering scientists, I WILL GO FIRST..
Because i live the closest (20 minutes away).
Enragé
10th October 2006, 00:44
isnt there some law stating that if something is repeated enough times and has even a minute change of going wrong... it WILL GO WRONG? :o
Janus
10th October 2006, 01:55
isnt there some law stating that if something is repeated enough times and has even a minute change of going wrong... it WILL GO WRONG?
Murphy's Law? :blink:
The Bitter Hippy
10th October 2006, 02:40
also general probability? The more it's repeated the more likely the world gets blowed up.
And they're leaving the thing running for 20 years :D.
It'd be pretty cool if they found something that gave us a big ole unified theory. Then physics lectures would get so much simpler.
Jazzratt
10th October 2006, 02:58
Originally posted by The Bitter
[email protected] 9 2006, 11:41 PM
also general probability? The more it's repeated the more likely the world gets blowed up.
Gambler's fallacy (I think). The chance of the world being blown up each time remains the same. Although I guess it could be argued the overall probability of the world ending is increased by repeatedly doing this experiment.
And they're leaving the thing running for 20 years :D.
It'd be pretty cool if they found something that gave us a big ole unified theory. Then physics lectures would get so much simpler. Heh, yeah. It would certianly sort out a lot of the mess that's about at the moment.
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