Tagging

[Acid]

i know people who are planning to graffiti around an area where chavs hang out. Please could you give me some tips and/or stencils.

We are going to be going for a mainly anarchy look and would prefer to have something we can do quickly.

:)

edited for legallity reasons

<3 organic

[Pirate Utopian]

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/sports/andre-the-giant/obey.jpg
i always liked OBEY style stencils

[rioters bloc]

tagging is boring.

you should either bomb or do stencils:

http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=42078

i mean, hypotheticallt speaking of course :blink:

[apathy maybe]

I agree with RB. Bombing an anarchy symbol everywhere could be more fun, especially if you add a bit of text (such as "anarchy = love") to help try and dispell some of the myths the general public have about anarchism.

Don&#39;t get caught&#33;

[An archist]

bombing?
doesn&#39;t that involve explosives and destruction and such?

[lithium]

I know nothing about tagging or stencilling... but I guess bombing is just saturating a place with logos?? Like if I bombed a place with Communist stuuf, there&#39;d be Hammers here and Sickles there all over the place&#33;

ALthough I could be wrong

[fstick]

Tagging is counter-productive.

[Organic Revolution]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2006, 04:59 PM
Tagging is counter-productive.
how is tagging counter-productive?

[fstick]

Quite simply: you accomplish nothing by it.

[apathy maybe]

Just because an act does not accomplish anything, does not make it counter-productive. Sex does not generally accomplish anything, yet I do not see many people advocating against it.

Acts that are fun and interesting can be ends to themselves.

Not that I find tagging at all interesting and I dislike tags, I prefer legible propaganda or art.


And lithium has the correct definition of bombing in reference to graffiti.

[Folk The System]

Originally posted by apathy [email protected] 18 2006, 12:03 AM
Sex does not generally accomplish anything, yet I do not see many people advocating against it.


ohhhh theres quit a few advocating against it. when i went to high school in texas, the actual sex ed curriculum was all ABSTINENCE&#33; they didnt even tell us what the fuck a condom was.

[bezdomni]

Originally posted by Folk The System+Sep 18 2006, 01:27 AM--> (Folk The System @ Sep 18 2006, 01:27 AM)
apathy [email protected] 18 2006, 12:03 AM
Sex does not generally accomplish anything, yet I do not see many people advocating against it.


ohhhh theres quit a few advocating against it. when i went to high school in texas, the actual sex ed curriculum was all ABSTINENCE&#33; they didnt even tell us what the fuck a condom was. [/b]
I live in Texas too.

They told us condoms have an 20% failure rate, and they don&#39;t do anything to prevent STDs.

It was essentially abstinence only.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Um, sex does accomplish something: enjoyment, making babies, etc.

[rioters bloc]

oh sorry. i meant piecing. gah, so out of it :blink:

i dunno what tag means over yonder but here it&#39;s just to go and sign your name everywhere which is boring (unless your signature is an o with an a inside it like mine, since those are my initials ^_^)

so yeah, some actual art would be nice,

but like i said if you bomb pretty enough that could be cool too.

of course, only do it in your house or something cos anywhere else would be ILLEGAL

:)

[Rollo]

some people over a period of a few weeks tagged a massive fidel castro onto some bridge, it was pretty funny because fidel was wearing aviators, wielding a gun and stomping on capitalist cheese.

edited for legality reasons

<3 organic

[RNK]

Simply get some pieces of cardboard or cereal box or whatever, cut out the stencil of whatever (the big A symbol, who cares?) and use that. Easy tagging, although not suitable for larger pieces, but good enough to make a point in 5 seconds or less.

[An archist]

you don&#39;t need a stencil for the (A) of for a hammer n sickle, they&#39;re pretty easy to draw, if you&#39;re going with more difficult things, then you should stencil.

[Comrade J]

Tagging makes streets look scruffy and shit.
If you&#39;re going to tag anarchy symbols or whatever sign you think will have some positive effect on those who see it, keep it to police cars and police stations or something like that, it looks awful in residential neighbourhoods, and it&#39;s not fair to the people whose houses you spray, if they can&#39;t afford to have it removed.

Also people who write some sort of made up &#39;tag-name&#39; are just stupid. All over Manchester city centre are these ridiculous squiggles, representing absolutely nothing. No message, or symbol or anything, just someones personalised squiggle. They&#39;re not even to mark turf by gangs, they&#39;re just to say "I&#39;ve been here, look how daring I am," and they just make places look bad.

And who ever heard of someone saying "well I&#39;m an anarchist because I once saw this &#39;A&#39; symbol on the side of HMV." All you ever hear about is the decadence of youth, so tagging making us look even worse in the eyes of society, and how the hell are people going to listen to us when we talk about class awareness, exploitation etc. when they have no respect for us as a generation? So yes, tagging is counter-productive if it&#39;s just some hammer and sickle, or an anarchy symbol. If you&#39;re going to spray something on a wall, make it an educative message, then at least it might achieve something decent.

[Rollo]

Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 24 2006, 11:10 PM
Tagging makes streets look scruffy and shit.
If you&#39;re going to tag anarchy symbols or whatever sign you think will have some positive effect on those who see it, keep it to police cars and police stations or something like that, it looks awful in residential neighbourhoods, and it&#39;s not fair to the people whose houses you spray, if they can&#39;t afford to have it removed.

Also people who write some sort of made up &#39;tag-name&#39; are just stupid. All over Manchester city centre are these ridiculous squiggles, representing absolutely nothing. No message, or symbol or anything, just someones personalised squiggle. They&#39;re not even to mark turf by gangs, they&#39;re just to say "I&#39;ve been here, look how daring I am," and they just make places look bad.

And who ever heard of someone saying "well I&#39;m an anarchist because I once saw this &#39;A&#39; symbol on the side of HMV." All you ever hear about is the decadence of youth, so tagging making us look even worse in the eyes of society, and how the hell are people going to listen to us when we talk about class awareness, exploitation etc. when they have no respect for us as a generation? So yes, tagging is counter-productive if it&#39;s just some hammer and sickle, or an anarchy symbol. If you&#39;re going to spray something on a wall, make it an educative message, then at least it might achieve something decent.
Oh come on, next time I&#39;m in that part of the world I&#39;m going to take a photo of the artwork we did. It looks more like cold war propaganda pro soviet than it does graffiti.

[An archist]

Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 24 2006, 01:10 PM
Tagging makes streets look scruffy and shit.
If you&#39;re going to tag anarchy symbols or whatever sign you think will have some positive effect on those who see it, keep it to police cars and police stations or something like that, it looks awful in residential neighbourhoods, and it&#39;s not fair to the people whose houses you spray, if they can&#39;t afford to have it removed.

Also people who write some sort of made up &#39;tag-name&#39; are just stupid. All over Manchester city centre are these ridiculous squiggles, representing absolutely nothing. No message, or symbol or anything, just someones personalised squiggle. They&#39;re not even to mark turf by gangs, they&#39;re just to say "I&#39;ve been here, look how daring I am," and they just make places look bad.

And who ever heard of someone saying "well I&#39;m an anarchist because I once saw this &#39;A&#39; symbol on the side of HMV." All you ever hear about is the decadence of youth, so tagging making us look even worse in the eyes of society, and how the hell are people going to listen to us when we talk about class awareness, exploitation etc. when they have no respect for us as a generation? So yes, tagging is counter-productive if it&#39;s just some hammer and sickle, or an anarchy symbol. If you&#39;re going to spray something on a wall, make it an educative message, then at least it might achieve something decent.
that&#39;s for uninspired grafiti, but there&#39;s tons of good stuff, I recently saw a stencil that said: &#39;wake up and dream&#39;
that makes people think

[rioters bloc]

some graffiti is cool cos of its historical significance... esp when the same slogan or whatever can be applied to so many situations/times.

like, the "no blood for oil" graf on the side of this building i live near, it&#39;s been there since the first us invasion of iraq... 15 years ago.

and its been relevant through all these years and it will prolly be relevant for many more :/

[Rollo]

http://www.colombiajournal.org/Graf28s.JPG
http://www.colombiajournal.org/Graf10s.JPG

Organic the people that sprayed it had permission because the bridge is part of a shop that the person who runs owns, so technically they weren&#39;t breaking any laws.


http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/5254/diagramjz1.jpg

The tunnel in the bridge is a bit closer under the shop and the guy definetely owns it, people skate in there and we checked everything out.

[An archist]

Riccy, do you have any pictures of what your friends tagged?

[Acid]

Sadly no, theyre still waiting for the paints to come through. being underage its difficult getting them, especially in a small town.

Just to confirm, they arent going to actually graffiti their names onto a persons house or a wall. its under a bridge where loads of people have gone down and put reeally bad graffiti.

We hope to do a few stencils, yes to show we&#39;re here but also to make people think. And in doing so at least we&#39;ll be covering up really horrible grafffiti with no skill involved. yes we are painting, but its improvement as well.

i love the "wake up and dream" one. And I will find some pics as soon as they do it.

[razboz]

if getting paints are sucha big problem, try to make youre own. Its actually really easy and itll porbly cost you less than obtaining them from the Capitlaist agents of Evil. Find my thread on DIY tagging material, its somwhere here in DIY.

[Mujer Libre]

My university and surrounding areas are currently covered in stencils saying "make capitalism history," "make property history," "make patriarchy history," "make corporation history and "make loneliness history" as a challenge to the Make Poverty History people in the runup to the G20.

I had nothing to do with it of course. :P