Anarchy cookbook

[ahab]

I hear they are trying to BAN the anarchist cookbook, does anyone know where i can find a free copy of it on the internet?

[atlas]

I havn't heard anything about that. But I saw a copy at Barnes and Noble, I think I'm going to get it next week just for that (never know when it might come in handy).

FYI pay CASH for that kind of stuff; don't use checks or a credit card. And make sure they don't put that under the membership card of wherever you shop, and if they ask for a phone number or address at the register, give them a fake one, this is another way of tracking who has bought what.

I don't think the (American) gov't is really going to do anything if you already have a copy. But just incase they start collecting copies and burning them, the above information will leave you hassle free.


Alright; just to put it out there I think the anarchists cookbook give anarchists a bad name of being violent punks. But I do support free speech (of any kind); so here is the 2000 edition, in all its' glory:

http://www.beyondweird.com/cookbook.html

[ahab]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2006, 11:14 PM
I havn't heard anything about that. But I saw a copy at Barnes and Noble, I think I'm going to get it next week just for that (never know when it might come in handy).

FYI pay CASH for that kind of stuff; don't use checks or a credit card. And make sure they don't put that under the membership card of wherever you shop, and if they ask for a phone number or address at the register, give them a fake one, this is another way of tracking who has bought what.

I don't think the (American) gov't is really going to do anything if you already have a copy. But just incase they start collecting copies and burning them, the above information will leave you hassle free.


Anyway, I'll see what I can do to find you a copy.
Thank you comrade, yea i read a news bullitin that since the recent bombings in the UK they are trying to get it banned

[Renegade420]

if they banned that book that would seriously piss some people off, me included. thanks brother for getting the book to the people, there are some good recipies in there

[bezdomni]

Don't buy the book, it's a load of shit.

Steal This Book by Abbie Hoffman is infinitely better, because the methods it describes aren't almost entirely made up. While the anarchist cookbook has some things that might be worthwhile, there are some parts that are entire bullshit. I remember one part was explaining how to make napalm or something, and the chemistry was all wrong (it didn't even use the right abbreviation for the elements!)

There were also several other things that were "questionable" about it. For example, you can't get high off of banana peels, no matter how many you smoke. Blowing up a suspension bridge is a lot harder (and more dangerous) than the book would have you believe.

Anyway, I really can't recommend anybody take this book seriously...since it could easily end up in a comrade getting injured because of sloppy scholarship on the behalf of the author (who is a hardcore right-winger, by the way).

If you want to read up on military tactics; Che, Mao, Lenin and Trotsky all have written on the topic. Also, if you could possibly get ahold of manuscripts and training manuals released by the army of your country, I could see how that could be helpful as well.

[Ander]

Well...me and my friends made napalm from the recipe listed in the Anarchist's Cookbook, so it couldn't have been that wrong. We also made some smoke bombs, paint bombs, and some other shit.

[YSR]

But the majority of it is total shit. I've heard stories about comrades getting in serious trouble when the "recipes" in there utterly failed. As CPA pointed out, even the author is scary.

Steal This Book:
http://www.instinct.org/texts/steal_this_book/

It's a little outdated, many of the technology aspects don't work anymore. But the social aspects totally still work. I've gotta find a dead roach, 'cause I'm totally gonna do the "drop it in my meal halfway through and get it free" trick.

[which doctor]

Don't buy the Anarchist Cookbook, unless you just want to read it. You may end up blowing your hand off.

I suggest you buy Recipes for Disaster: an anarchist cookbook by Crimethinc.

http://crimethinc.com/a/cookbook/

[bezdomni]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2006, 01:04 AM
Well...me and my friends made napalm from the recipe listed in the Anarchist's Cookbook, so it couldn't have been that wrong. We also made some smoke bombs, paint bombs, and some other shit.
Here are some of the fuck ups in the Anarchist Cookbook:

1) "Bananadine" simply does not exist. Smoking banana peels will not make you trip.
2) The bulk of the section on demolitions was essentially plagiarized from the US Army Field Manual..but parts of it were grossly oversimplified or entirely made up. Anybody who is familiar with the science of demolitions would know that blowing up a suspension bridge is much more difficult than simply placing six charges in certain spots.
3) The author says this:

"To conclude this chapter, I will present the most horrendous recipe I could find. Since it is not feasible to make napalm in your kitchen, you will have to be satisfied with cacodyal. This is made by chemically extracting all the oxygen from alcohol and then replacing it, under laboratory conditions, with metal arsenic. The formula for alcohol is C4H5O, whereas for cacodyal it is C4H5AR. Now, this new substance, cacodyal, possesses spontaneous inflammability, the moment it is exposed to the air. [Followed by a description of the deadly arsenic fumes it gives off]"

There are several problems with this. One, it isn't really a recipie and doesn't tell you very much about how to make either napalm or cacodyal in your kitchen. Two, The formula for alcohol is C2H6O (C2H5OH), not C4H5O. Three, You can't have C4H5O. Four, The valence of oxygen is 2. The valence of arsenic is 3 or 5. Thus, simply replacing oxygen with arsenic isn't possible. Four, he symbol for arsenic is As, not AR. This really makes me not trust any of the chemistry in the book. And finally, he Merck Index and the dictionary list cacodyl (notice the Cookbook's misspelling) as As2(CH3)2. This formula is totally different from C4H5AR.

In fact, I fail to see any possible way that you could have actually been able to make napalm from the "recipie" the book gives you...since it says making it in your kitchen is essentially impossible.


If you really want to read a book that will give you better information, I recommend Recipies for Disaster from Crimethinc or Steal This Book by Abbie Hoffman. The Anarchist Cookbook should really not be trusted, since it is full of sloppy chemistry and pseudo-science. The guy who wrote it is an absolute moron...he's also a rightwinger!

[rioters bloc]

yeah, anarchist cookbook = bad idea :/

not fun, not helpful, quite dangerous (for you)

[apathy maybe]

There are a variety of "Anarchist Cookbooks" out there on the Interweb. Some of them ripped parts out of the original, but I think most are just collections of text from various BBS.

Get yourself a real chemistry or explosives book rather then this.

[bcbm]

US Army manuals and CIA "counter-insurgency" guides would do you much better. The "Anarchist Cookbook" is disinformation, at best, intending to land comrades in jail or dead.

[Marx_was_right!]

US Army manuals and CIA "counter-insurgency" guides would do you much better. The "Anarchist Cookbook" is disinformation, at best, intending to land comrades in jail or dead.


That's right comrade. Stay away. We don't need that for our revolution if we have the support of the proletariat.

[FinnMacCool]

Don't bother with the anarchist cookbook. It is not anarchist at all in the least and its so called "recipes" are notoriously dangerous.

[rioters bloc]

altho crimethinc can be annoying, the crimethinc "anarchist cookbook: recipes for disaster" is quite useful - the stuff in it can actually be used in daily life and is great if you're into diy :)

[ahab]

alright well I guess I should do a little more research before getting that book lol but these other books sound helpful and I have the SAS combat manuel and it's pretty informative so thank you for your input comrades:)

[Ander]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2006, 02:46 AM
In fact, I fail to see any possible way that you could have actually been able to make napalm from the "recipie" the book gives you...since it says making it in your kitchen is essentially impossible.

Hmm...perhaps it was with the online version that we made it? I know for a fact that we did make it because I remember using it, but it was two years ago so I don't recall exactly how.

[undeadsinner]

Be very careful when picking this book up at B&N or Walden books...but definitly watch out when picking it off the Internet-The Feds will arrest you on grounds of Terrorism just for having it-legal,no but does the Capilist pigs care,again No,though it is good reading,if you cant cover your tracks well enough you fiond yourself ina cell at Gitmo til you die,or til a Revolution comes to free you...be careful my communist brothers and sisters
The Red Fist of Revolution-
UNDEADSINNER

[bezdomni]

Better yet, don't even read the fucking book because it is full of shit.

Why have to "cover your tracks" to read a book that will likely get you blown up?

[Renegade420]

so what all is in Recipes for Disaster: an anarchist cookbook by Crimethinc.? is it just recipes for bombs and stuff or is it ideas and these peoples personal opinions on political shit?

[rioters bloc]

it's more diy and leftie organising stuff.

stuff like:
*wheatpasting
*graffiti
*domestic violence
*hitchhiking
*sabotage
*bike collectives
*affinity groups

other shit as well. stuff that can really be applied in real life, in different ways (i was also after the original cookbook, and i was warned away from it from other people on this site and real-world activists.)

[KGB5097]

The AC is fun, but its nothing more than a way for a few teenagers with access to a tool shed, $15, and a parking lot to have some fun...

FYI: the AC site says the US government banned it, yet they still sell it. I managed to get the last free online copy (sorry, not giving it out. Don't need the FBI at my door when oneof you jackasses blows up your grandmother).

"Steal this Book" is a much better choice, as is "Guerilla Warfare", although tha latter is more of a historical document than a bomb making guide (if that disintrests you, you may be on the wrong forum).

[Ander]

Does anyone know of any free online versions of Recipes for Disaster?

[which doctor]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2006, 10:58 PM
Does anyone know of any free online versions of Recipes for Disaster?
No, but according to Crimethinc's policy on plagarism, I'm sure they wouldn't mind at all if someone scanned the entire text and put it up on the net. Hell, they would probaly even encourage it.

Someone should really do that, at least scan some of the better parts and make it into a pdf.

[rioters bloc]

Originally posted by Fist of Blood+Jun 13 2006, 02:19 PM--> (Fist of Blood @ Jun 13 2006, 02:19 PM)
[email protected] 12 2006, 10:58 PM
Does anyone know of any free online versions of Recipes for Disaster?
No, but according to Crimethinc's policy on plagarism, I'm sure they wouldn't mind at all if someone scanned the entire text and put it up on the net. Hell, they would probaly even encourage it.

Someone should really do that, at least scan some of the better parts and make it into a pdf. [/b]
would take forever, but if someones got the time, do it! :D

although, if crimethinc had wanted it to be available to everyone online wouldnt they have made it into an ebook like some of their other titles?

seems dodgy to me ;)

[Everyday Anarchy]

Some interesting parts of it should definitely be released online so that some of us comrades who aren't capable of purchasing things like that (live with parents).

You should certainly respect Crimethinc's wishes, though. If you want them to keep churning out things like Recipes for Disaster, then releasing the whole thing could cause a severe blow to their income.

[which doctor]

Some interesting parts of it should definitely be released online so that some of us comrades who aren't capable of purchasing things like that (live with parents).

I bought a book from them without the pesky folks knowing. I just sent them some money in an envelope and they sent me the book. I just got to the mail box before my folks did. Good thing too considering the outside of the package had a personal message on it. Oh yeah, and I bought Days of War, Nights of Love


You should certainly respect Crimethinc's wishes, though. If you want them to keep churning out things like Recipes for Disaster, then releasing the whole thing could cause a severe blow to their income.

I'm sure they wouldn't care. They tell you to take their articles and turn them in as your own for school work. In Days of War, Nights of Love they have an entire chapter dedicated to plagiarism.

[Ander]

I prefer reading books like that online than buying them...but oh well. I'll look for it this summer :)

[Renegade420]

"Steal this Book" is a much better choice, as is "Guerilla Warfare", although tha latter is more of a historical document than a bomb making guide (if that disintrests you, you may be on the wrong forum).

im interested in the ideas of fighting a war using gurilla warfare(is that the one about Che?) but i would also like to know the cheap, convenient ways to mess some stuff up.

[ahab]

I went to the army-navy store and found they have A LOT of books on guerilla warfare, how to make small explosives, boobie-traps, spike pits and all that the problem is most of it was concentrated on jungle warfare. We all kno that the most likely place of any revolution will be urban, in the cities, not in some jungle. These books are written by the military though so the info is good, where you can use it

[Donnie]

I read some of the Anarchist Cookbook when I was 14, it's such a pointless book and gives Anarchism a bad name by thinking that Anarchism is all about bombs etc.

Also it's common sence not to use online versions of the Anarchist Cookbook because somone could have typed in the wrong amount or forgotten to type in the extra ingredent and if you were to use that list the next thing you know your at A.E with serious injuries.

[Commie Rat]

PM me if you want a pdf copy of the US marines M16 firing and mantince manuel

[emma_goldman]

The Anarchist Cookbook perpetuates stereotypes of anarchists. :angry:

[Fawkes]

An Anarchist Cookbook: Recipes for Disaster is definately a good book. It was named in 2005 by the D.O.D. as one of the most dangerous books. I highly doubt anyone is gonna photocopy it considering that the book is more than 600 pages. I particularly like how they have sections on defeating fascists and forming black blocs but than there's a random section all about sex.

[middleman]

a friend of mine told me about a book he bought a while ago...

i think he said it was the "anarchy cookbook" im not sure through. i am intrested in anarchy and was woundering if anyone has read it. also give me an idea of what it is about.

is it an explination of anarchy?
does it provide the histroy of anarcy?
or what?

a little information would be great. i might try and buy book my self depending on what it is about. :)

thanks for your help

[BreadBros]

If you mean "The Anarchist Cookbook" then no, it has little to nothing to do with the type of Anarchism usually talked about on here. 'Anarchy' can mean either 1. a series of political/social/economic ideas that (to sum it up) espouse the destruction of capitalism and the State or 2. a state of chaos, lack of order and destruction. "The Anarchist Cookbook" uses it in the #2 meaning. It is just a bunch of instructions for how to cause mayhem. Its famous for being banned because (I beleive) it has instructions for making explosives and the such. I saw a bit of it online once. I'll just say that it seems to have been written decades ago and when it comes to it's information on technical systems such as phone networks it is antiquated and fairly obsolete, so the majority of it is probably bunk.

[middleman]

well that shines a very poor light upon anarchy.

anarchy how i came to know it by was a place with no goverment. a place where people can do what they want and not have to worry about anything. where you have compleate freedom. where you can live in peace and stability.

that doesn't sound like anarchy how you say, the book describes it. personaly, i think everything can be solved in words not war. i know, im a hippy... but that is just what i think.

i don't think i will get that book now. thanks for the advise.

[YSR]

There are plenty of great texts detailing the history of anarchism as well as differing theories and analysis of anarchism.

Here's a good resource to get you started:
http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=6421

[midnight marauder]

The "Anarchist Cookbook" refers to several books and texts written at differnet times from different people throughout the 1980s. They're each collections of different ways one can supposedly make bombs, homemade drugs, etc. They have about as much to do with anarchism as America has with democracy. And not only are they an insult to real anarchists, and only serve to confuse people as to what anarchism actually is, they're also pretty poor sources of information, and one would do wise not to follow it's recipes.



Anarchy: It is NOT bombs, disorder or chaos. It is NOT robbery and murder. It is NOT a war of each against all. It is NOT a return to barbarism or to the wild state of man. Anarchism is the very opposite of all that.
- Alexander Berkman

[Labor Shall Rule]

The Anarchist Cookbook was made by William Powell, a pseudo-socialist that was widely involved in the New Left movement of the later 1960s. In his new introduction to the book, he talks about how naive he was and how most of his "recipes" for explosives, were generally just amateur sketches that he borrowed from millitary and special forces manuals. The instructions for making various gases and other dangerous chemicals within the book was not overlooked by the expertise of a chemist or any explosives expert. I would highly discourage the use of any of tactics endorsed within the book.

The book has also evoked the wrong and stereotypical definition of anarchism; associating the popular social and political movement with nothing but extreme violence and chaos. The only mainstream political effect that the anarchist cookbook has had on American society, is that it created a sense of fear towards the issue of children and firearms. Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, the two kids that perpetrated the Columbine massacre, used some of the molotov recipes to set bodies and parts of their school on fire. I am frankly quite glad that the book has been taken of the shelves of American bookstores, libraries, city streets, and other areas of literary transaction.

[Ander]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2006, 08:41 PM
that doesn't sound like anarchy how you say, the book describes it. personaly, i think everything can be solved in words not war. i know, im a hippy... but that is just what i think.
You're going to be part of a small minority here. And...anarchists and pacifism do not mix well.

[YSR]

Pacifism as ideology? No, that's true, that doesn't fit with anarchism very well.

But I think we are a lot less violent than most people in our regular lives. By resisting the everyday violence of the State, I think we really are rather peaceful.

[bezdomni]

http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=51075

Already a thread on this.

[Janus]

Merged.

[Zero]

I cooked some stuff from that darn book.


It all tasted horrible and gave me bad gas. 0/10

[apathy maybe]

The original cookbook was, as RedDali said, written by Powell in the 1960s. In the 1980s there were a lot of ripoffs (as was mentioned by JUICE).

The page linked to by atlas seems to be a combination of both recipies from the original, and from the varied philes that floated the BBS in the 1980s. It is the first one that I have found that has bananadine in it (which does not exist).

It is all bullshit of course, so unless you get independent confirmation that any recipe actually works, I wouldn't trust it.

totse.com and Textfiles.com both have lots of interesting things as well...