Music

[Labor Shall Rule]

Is the current recording industry making music the "opium of the masses"? Do you think that some variations of music are "bourgeois" or truly "proletarian" tunes? If you like mainstream bands, are you betraying your socialistic beliefs?

[OneBrickOneVoice]

No you're not betraying socialistic beliefs as sometimes you're just not in the mood for revolutionary music, however you are betraying it if you don't steal the mainstream music

[Jazzratt]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2006, 02:01 AM
No you're not betraying socialistic beliefs as sometimes you're just not in the mood for revolutionary music, however you are betraying it if you don't steal the mainstream music
Wait does this mean I have to steal tobacco and coffee as well?

[Ol' Dirty]

If it sounds good, listen to it. It's that simple. Politics and art do mix well, but they shouldn't be saturated with each other.

[Everyday Anarchy]

Sometimes I get the feeling that I'm being hypocritical when I listen to mainstream songs or if I wear a popular brand piece of clothing or drink a 'corporate' soda.
But seriously, come on... I listen to what I want to, wear what I want to, drink what I want to, etc. I don't give a shit. Maybe I am being a bit hypocritical but I'm not going to restrain myself. That'd be even more hypocritical.

[which doctor]

Well, anytime a band signs to a major label, the artistic integrity of that band is compromised thus making it illegitimate art, not worth listening too. There's plently of underground/indie political bands that actually sound good instead of the horrid sound that RATM puts out.

[Jazzratt]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2006, 03:57 AM
Well, anytime a band signs to a major label, the artistic integrity of that band is compromised thus making it illegitimate art, not worth listening too.
Bollocks. Sheer sentimentalist bollocks. A song is worth listening to if it is well written, well played and well produced. "Artistic Integrity" is idea that appears to be only popular among pretentious wanker who spend all their time in coffee shops talking shite.

[Don't Change Your Name]

Wow, this thread is lame. Betraying your "socialistic beliefs"? This leads me to think you're not "socialists" (or whatever you call yourself like) but a bunch of 12 years old pretending to be "lefties" to be "cool" because they are "different". Go back to watching your MTV.

[which doctor]

Originally posted by Jazzratt+Sep 10 2006, 07:48 PM--> (Jazzratt @ Sep 10 2006, 07:48 PM)
[email protected] 10 2006, 03:57 AM
Well, anytime a band signs to a major label, the artistic integrity of that band is compromised thus making it illegitimate art, not worth listening too.
Bollocks. Sheer sentimentalist bollocks. A song is worth listening to if it is well written, well played and well produced. "Artistic Integrity" is idea that appears to be only popular among pretentious wanker who spend all their time in coffee shops talking shite. [/b]
You are clearly not educated on the workings of consumer capitalism. When people listen to musicians like Jessica Simpson and actually like her stuff, is it because her music is well written? Fuck no! This is what they're being sold by corporations. It's a good example of the diffuse spectacle. Your ideas of "well written, well played, and well produced" are what capitalism gave you.

Art is either revolutionary or it is nothing.

[Jazzratt]

Originally posted by FoB+Sep 11 2006, 02:46 AM--> (FoB @ Sep 11 2006, 02:46 AM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2006, 07:48 PM

[email protected] 10 2006, 03:57 AM
Well, anytime a band signs to a major label, the artistic integrity of that band is compromised thus making it illegitimate art, not worth listening too.
Bollocks. Sheer sentimentalist bollocks. A song is worth listening to if it is well written, well played and well produced. "Artistic Integrity" is idea that appears to be only popular among pretentious wanker who spend all their time in coffee shops talking shite.
You are clearly not educated on the workings of consumer capitalism. When people listen to musicians like Jessica Simpson and actually like her stuff, is it because her music is well written? Fuck no! This is what they're being sold by corporations. It's a good example of the diffuse spectacle. Your ideas of "well written, well played, and well produced" are what capitalism gave you. [/b]
A large swathe of music is attactched to a large label. I didn't say I liked all major label music so dragging out people that make shit music is both strawmanning and ingoring the main point of my argumen vis that if music is good it doesn't matter who made it or which label sold it - to say otherwise would be pretentious drivel. My ideas of "Well written" are generally lyrics that appeal to me along with a rythm that I can appreciate and tunes/harmonays/melodies that don't grate. My ideas of "Well played" would be somone singing or playing that piece of writing is such a way as to do it justice. My ideas of "Well produced" are simply that the piece is listenable with no background noise/interference/crackle(exception for vinyl). What are your ideas of "Well written, well played and well produced" then?

An example of a major label bands/artists I enjoy listening to, just so you have an idea of the type of thing I'm talking about: Iron Maiden, Placebo, Bob Dylan, Dpeche Mode and The Sisters of Mercy.