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RevolutionaryRomanticism
10th September 2006, 00:05
Think about this...Could it have been that (since batista was working with capitalist corps and making them money) when Castro kicked his ass, that pissed off the capts. and the "evidence" for enstating the embargo, (which i am guessing was the "supposed" violence, was the battles still being fought with Batista's supports...is that possible..if so tell me why..if not ...well tell me why ..lol...Thanks

-Anya

Labor Shall Rule
10th September 2006, 00:12
Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2006, 09:06 PM
Think about this...Could it have been that (since batista was working with capitalist corps and making them money) when Castro kicked his ass, that pissed off the capts. and the "evidence" for enstating the embargo, (which i am guessing was the "supposed" violence, was the battles still being fought with Batista's supports...is that possible..if so tell me why..if not ...well tell me why ..lol...Thanks

-Anya
I don't understand the question. Was it about America's relation with the Batista regime? Do you mean 'did we embargo Cuba right after Fidel came to power?' I am really confused. Do you mean 'did the Batista supporters that left the country create the embargo?' What happened is that Fidel ordered the nationalization of all foreign-owned industry, including many sugar and fruit plantations owned by American investors. This lead to the economic embargo.

BreadBros
10th September 2006, 00:23
I think they are asking whether much of the evidence used against Cuba to institute the embargo was manufactured by Batista-supporting capitalist entities. I can't say yes or no, I don't have too much direct knowledge of the direct political maneuverings shortly after the revoluton, but the answer is likely an emphatic yes. Most of the claims against Cuba carry about as much legitimacy as the Gulf of Tonkin incident or the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

Red Rebel
10th September 2006, 08:29
Are you asking why the embargo was created? It started as just an arms embargo but it grew into other economic embargos as Cuba created ties to the USSR.

http://cubaproject.freeservers.com/blocus.htm
http://www.cubavsbloqueo.cu/Default.aspx?tabid=941
Also those are just two sites if you want info. of the embargo.

RevolutionaryRomanticism
10th September 2006, 21:39
Bread Bros had it right in his explanation...I was asking if the following was possible i will rewrite for you to better understand...

The united states enstated the embargi not only because of the ties to ussr, but because they also thought (seeing his action against the remaining batista supporters) that Castro was violent. More so, since batists was makign the u.s money they were ticked off when he was overthrown...so they waited a bit (not to look as if they were disgruntled) and then enstated it, and then tightened it, not because of a real threat but out of vengeance...(The missile crisis can be taken into account somewhere alon that line...) now what do you think....???

-Anya

Tommie
10th September 2006, 21:47
My head hurts trying to read your messages.

Labor Shall Rule
10th September 2006, 22:02
Remember, America wished to install friendly relations with the new Cuban regime. In 1959, diplomatic relations were fine during the revolutionary trials against political opposition and former Batista supporters. One of the first policies by the newly formed Cuban government was eliminating illiteracy and implementing land reforms. So in 1960, the government nationalized all foreign-owned property in order to fund such programs. Fidel didn't want to neccesarily go down to the Soviet road, and searched for support in the United States, Europe, and then finally the International Monetary Fund, which was unsuprisingly controlled by the American government, which all denied his request for aid. The Soviet Union, which had a high demand for tropical agricultural products, was willing to trade and aid Cuba, this was the beginning of the sanctions. The Eisenhower administration immediately cut ties and economic relations. He also planned the infamous Bay of Pigs invasion, which was later enacted by JFK. This lead to Soviet millitary intervention, and then Fidel's declaration of his political orientation as a "marxist-leninist". Keep in mind, he was a former self-declared nationalist and populist.

Tommie
10th September 2006, 22:15
The Eisenhower administration immediately cut ties and economic relations. He also planned the infamous Bay of Pigs invasion, which was later enacted by JFK.

Mind you JFK did not sanction any US military support for the invasion. He simply allowed the exiles to launch their poorly organized attack on Cuba and get slaughtered. This inaction on JFK's support (which in my opinion shows his disdain for the far right-wing) may have in part lead to his death.