Demand ABC correct their film

[emma_goldman]

http://thinkprogress.org/tellabc

[pastradamus]

That was a great idea. I just sent them a letter.

[VenceremosRed]

I thought we were revolutionaries, not democrats?

Look - even if this had a (bourgeois) liberal spin to it -- it still wouldn't be factual.

Let's actually fight for a CLASS struggle instead of a moronic form letter that gets deleted as "Spam" from ABC execs.

And join the Free People's Movement. :wub:

[Tekun]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2006, 03:55 AM
I thought we were revolutionaries, not democrats?

Look - even if this had a (bourgeois) liberal spin to it -- it still wouldn't be factual.

Let's actually fight for a CLASS struggle instead of a moronic form letter that gets deleted as "Spam" from ABC execs.

And join the Free People's Movement. :wub:
I agree

Who knows exactly what really happened on that day?
The government has withheld all the information regarding the events of that day, therefore we really don't know what occurred behind the scenes
American liberals want the events portrayed to benefit their agenda (anti-Bush, pro-Clinton,...)
Same goes for conservatives, they favor any portrayal that boosts their reputation
So it seems unnecessary for socialists/communists/anarchists to work for a "fair" portrayal of the events
If the information of that day was as accessible, as empirical and as unbiased as possible, maybe we could work on trying to make a fair assessment and presentation of the events
But as long as the information is in the hands of a few, wealthy, corrupt capitalists that benefit from withholding the truth, the public will never know the reality

[worldtradeisadeathmachine]

Originally posted by Tekun+Sep 11 2006, 09:45 AM--> (Tekun @ Sep 11 2006, 09:45 AM)
[email protected] 11 2006, 03:55 AM
I thought we were revolutionaries, not democrats?

Look - even if this had a (bourgeois) liberal spin to it -- it still wouldn't be factual.

Let's actually fight for a CLASS struggle instead of a moronic form letter that gets deleted as "Spam" from ABC execs.

And join the Free People's Movement. :wub:
I agree

Who knows exactly what really happened on that day?
The government has withheld all the information regarding the events of that day, therefore we really don't know what occurred behind the scenes
American liberals want the events portrayed to benefit their agenda (anti-Bush, pro-Clinton,...)
Same goes for conservatives, they favor any portrayal that boosts their reputation
So it seems unnecessary for socialists/communists/anarchists to work for a "fair" portrayal of the events
If the information of that day was as accessible, as empirical and as unbiased as possible, maybe we could work on trying to make a fair assessment and presentation of the events
But as long as the information is in the hands of a few, wealthy, corrupt capitalists that benefit from withholding the truth, the public will never know the reality [/b]
I agree. Totally and utterly.
No-one will ever truly- no-one from the public will ever truly know what happened that day

[midnight marauder]

Bourgeois media is bourgeois media, fuck these political games.

[RNK]

Let's actually fight for a CLASS struggle instead of a moronic form letter that gets deleted as "Spam" from ABC execs.

I have a better idea. Let's all drop our pre-conceived notions of what "true revolutionary activities" are and partake in any and all attempts at even slightly destabalizing the imperialist base. It is people like who, you are so hell-bent on stopping any struggle that isn't your version of the People's Struggle, who are the reason that the world revolution is so fractured and non-existant. It is people like you that are preventing the very unity that Marx espoused by being stubbornly against anything you don't see as true revolution.

So stop coming up with excuses why you shouldn't have to actually do anything, and just do whatever you can, however small and insignificant you may think it is.

[Tekun]

^Explain to me how sending them a message or signing a petition asking for an accurate portrayal of ABC's 9/11 film is "destabilizing the imperialist base?"
First off, this has nothing to do with the "imperialist base"
And second, why should we plead to the bourgeoisie media to portray events, that have been shrouded by mystery, in an unbiased and fair manner? This is doing nothing to fight imperialism or capitalism, nor is it empowering the working class
Bourgeoisie media is always gonna be biased and skewed, they cater to big level execs, that's how they make their money
So why should radical leftists partake in liberal political schemes? Because one must admit that this type of action has liberal connotations (seeing how this is a liberal website) and does nothing but help liberals criticize conservatives, or in other words, play politics



It is people like who, you are so hell-bent on stopping any struggle that isn't your version of the People's Struggle, who are the reason that the world revolution is so fractured and non-existant

Again, tell me how this helps working class Americans? Right, it doesn't
Therefore, this isn't the ppl's struggle, nor is it anyone's version of it
Why should we waste time on something so trivial as asking big level execs to change the film's agenda, or portray the events that benefit the democrats?
Most ppl on this website are more involved in organizing workers and demonstrations that flex their muscle against capitalism, than in doing the democrats' dirty work

Right, so global revolutions are non-existant?
I think the FARC in Colombia would disagree, so would the Maoists in Nepal, and the Communists in India...socialist/communist/and maoists revolutions are springing up in every corner of the world
These movements might not be linked and they might have disagreements, but their hatred and fight against imperialism and capitalism does more to help the proletariat around the world than what that website is proposing


There is no aspect nor trace of Marxism in signing liberal petitions and doing their dirty work
Working class movements will not become united if we get involved in bourgeoisie politics, because that's exactly what we're doing if we take the liberal stance on this issue
Rather, we're helping democrats attain power and influence which will do nothing to empower the workers in this country, but rather perpetuate their exploitation

This action has nothing to do with revolution, its a reactionary and reformist move endorsed by liberals

[dear_leader]

Oh, I just love these discussions.

I have a suggestion:

We'll let you, the revolutionaries, rip yourselves to pieces, and in the meantime, we, the capitalists will continue making money.

Deal?