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[Orion999]

If Cuba is so great why don't you move there?

If Cuba is so great why are the citizens trying to float across the Gulf of Mexico in intertubes?

If Cuba is so great, why does almost every cuban in the U.S. hate Castro and communist Cuba?

If Cuba is the best example of a communists state you commies can come up with, no wonder nobody takes you seriously.

[Pirate Utopian]

orion look at the site and search of the link on misconseptions, good site by the way, CB

[Tommy-K]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2006, 11:34 AM
If Cuba is so great why don't you move there?
"Yeah, bye friends, family etc., I'm off to live in Cuba. Won't see you for a while. What's that? Of course I can't afford to move to Cuba, but I'm going to anyway."


If Cuba is so great why are the citizens trying to float across the Gulf of Mexico in intertubes?

All the citizens?


If Cuba is so great, why does almost every cuban in the U.S. hate Castro and communist Cuba?

Because they live in the US and are brainwashed by the Bush administration. They are of the vast minority that left Cuba because they didn't like it there.


If Cuba is the best example of a communists state you commies can come up with, no wonder nobody takes you seriously.

Castro has never claimed Cuba to be Communist. Hardly anyone on here claims Cuba to be Communist because it isn't. Check your facts.

[Tommy-K]

Just read the misconceptions page. That is brilliant! I now have a rescource for every time someone challenges me with one of those conceptions that will save me having to stand there for half an hour explaining it.

[Patchd]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2006, 11:34 AM
If Cuba is so great why don't you move there?

If Cuba is so great why are the citizens trying to float across the Gulf of Mexico in intertubes?

If Cuba is so great, why does almost every cuban in the U.S. hate Castro and communist Cuba?

If Cuba is the best example of a communists state you commies can come up with, no wonder nobody takes you seriously.

If Cuba is so great why don't you move there?

Trust me mate, I would rather live in Cuba than here. I mean who wouldn't like to live in a country with the second best health care in the world which is also free and readily available to every citizen, free and good education, so much so that there is a lower illiteracy rate in Cuba than in the USA, and freedom from the oppression of the capitalists. Oh and I live in England by the way, but if you're American, then doesn't the US government forbid any of its citizens to travel to Cuba?


If Cuba is so great why are the citizens trying to float across the Gulf of Mexico in intertubes?

Wow, you really think every Cuban is trying to escape, you really are a dumbass. Oh and if those who are escaping are doing so because they want more democratic freedom, then they're wasting their time going to the USA, capitalist democracy isn't true democracy, you have a choice between a capitalist party and a capitalist party no matter what the bureucrats try to claim, I suggest you read Max Shachtman's "The Fight for Socialism", Chapter 5 I think it is: http://www.marxists.org/archive/shachtma/1946/ffs/ffs05.htm


If Cuba is so great, why does almost every cuban in the U.S. hate Castro and communist Cuba?

Because a lot of the Cubans on America were descendants of Cuban capitalists who fled after the revolution, or were middle class and were pissed off that they now had to live in a fairer society and the "lower" classes now had fairer pay. Those who weren't middle class have now been brainwashed by the American government to hate Cuba and anything to do with it.


If Cuba is the best example of a communists state you commies can come up with, no wonder nobody takes you seriously.

First thing, that sentence doesn't make sense. Second thing that is not the reason why capitalist claim that "no one takes us seriously". Once again, YOU ARE A DUMBASS.

[Whitten]

If Cuba is so great why don't you move there?

Its pretty poor there. Believe it or not, I can list a whole load of capitalist states which are even worse off.

WQe dont move there because that would be surrendering. Settling for a single poor and oppressed state would not be revolutionary. Its our moral duty to free our class in our own lands.


If Cuba is so great why are the citizens trying to float across the Gulf of Mexico in intertubes?

Its poor, no one is denying that.


If Cuba is so great, why does almost every cuban in the U.S. hate Castro and communist Cuba?

Use your grey-matter! What sort of Cuban citizen is living in the US? The communist ones? Not so many of those, eh?


If Cuba is the best example of a communists state you commies can come up with, no wonder nobody takes you seriously.

There is no such thing as a "communist state" your self-demostration of your own ignorance is why no one here takes you seriously. Cuba is a socialist state. It came as a result of a revolution in an oppressed third world country and since then has been even more harshly oppressed by the US. Its a good example of how a poor and rather under developed country can do the right thing.

[Patchd]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2006, 12:11 PM

WQe dont move there because that would be surrendering. Settling for a single poor and oppressed state would not be revolutionary. Its our moral duty to free our class in our own lands.

I agree, although I am not denying the fact that living in Cuba would be pretty decent.

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2006, 12:34 PM
If Cuba is so great why don't you move there?
Because there's a hell of a lot of work to do in other countries, such as mine.


If Cuba is so great why are the citizens trying to float across the Gulf of Mexico in intertubes?
Some are, because they want to become rich and live the 'American Dream', brainwashed and deluded by your filthy capitalist propaganda, thinking they too can become rich in the US, the "land of the free" ( :rolleyes: ), only to find out it's all just a lie.


If Cuba is so great, why does almost every cuban in the U.S. hate Castro and communist Cuba?
:lol: Are you kidding me? OK, follow this logic here:
Who leaves Cuba for the US? The people that don't want to remain in Cuba, meaning the people that don't care for equality, the people that want to have more wealth than someone else.
Therefore, logically, every Cuban in the US is opposed to Cuba. You didn't think any Cuban communists/socialists would go to the US, did you? So of course there are no Cuban communists/socialists in the US, and of course Cubans in the US are opposed to Cuba.
It's really as simple as first grade math, you know :lol:
And for the record, Cuba is not communist.


If Cuba is the best example of a communists state you commies can come up with,
:rolleyes: Who told you Cuba is communist? And, more importantly, why were you dumb enough to believe it?


no wonder nobody takes you seriously.
Hilarious, this coming from a grade-A moron who can't put up with a single, basic debate, provides no arguments at all and has no clue what he's talking about whatsoever :lol:

[Orion999]

Because they live in the US and are brainwashed by the Bush administration. They are of the vast minority that left Cuba because they didn't like it there.

Typical idiotic response. So people live in Cuba their whole life than get out of their intertube and are immeidiately brainwashed? Ever thought the reason Cubans in America hate castro's Cuba is because their family members in cuba are constantly teliing them how horrible it is there?


Castro has never claimed Cuba to be Communist.

Completely wrong. Check your facts.


Trust me mate, I would rather live in Cuba than here. I mean who wouldn't like to live in a country with the second best health care in the world which is also free and readily available to every citizen, free and good education, so much so that there is a lower illiteracy rate in Cuba than in the USA, and freedom from the oppression of the capitalists. Oh and I live in England by the way, but if you're American, then doesn't the US government forbid any of its citizens to travel to Cuba?

Where did you get this nonsense from? Cuba has the second best health care system in the world? Care to provede any non commy propaganda evidence fo this ridiculous claim? No idiot, we are not forbbidden form traveling to cuba, we are forbidden form trading with the evil dictatorship of Cuba. You have lost all grip on reality if you believe this crap my friend. Even your fellow commy admits cuba is undeniably poor. Get some actual facts to abck oyour nonsense up next time, dipshit.



Wow, you really think every Cuban is trying to escape, you really are a dumbass. Oh and if those who are escaping are doing so because they want more democratic freedom, then they're wasting their time going to the USA, capitalist democracy isn't true democracy, you have a choice between a capitalist party and a capitalist party no matter what the bureucrats try to claim, I suggest you read Max Shachtman's "The Fight for Socialism", Chapter 5 I think it is: http://www.marxists.org/archive/shachtma/1946/ffs/ffs05.htm

No not everyone, just about 95% would like to get out of poor ass, zero oppurtunity Cuba.


Because a lot of the Cubans on America were descendants of Cuban capitalists who fled after the revolution, or were middle class and were pissed off that they now had to live in a fairer society and the "lower" classes now had fairer pay. Those who weren't middle class have now been brainwashed by the American government to hate Cuba and anything to do with it.

You are a complete idiot with ZERO grasp on reality. Wrong, allot of them have fled every year since the revolution because in cuba everyone is born dirt poor and they have zero oppurtunity of improving their situation.


First thing, that sentence doesn't make sense. Second thing that is not the reason why capitalist claim that "no one takes us seriously". Once again, YOU ARE A DUMBASS.

WRONG, that sentance makes complete sense, you just lack the mental capacity to understand even the simplest things. Please prove you are not mentally retarded and tell me exactly how that sentance does not make sense.


Its pretty poor there. Believe it or not, I can list a whole load of capitalist states which are even worse off.

Your idiot friend palachoniv thinks Cuba is the greatest place to live ever. Why don't you try educating him. Name a western state worse off than cuba.


Its poor, no one is denying that.

That idiot palachoniv sure as hell is.


There is no such thing as a "communist state" your self-demostration of your own ignorance is why no one here takes you seriously. Cuba is a socialist state. It came as a result of a revolution in an oppressed third world country and since then has been even more harshly oppressed by the US. Its a good example of how a poor and rather under developed country can do the right thing.

Yes, I am well aware of this claim. But since every communist revolution results in the same authoritarian dictatorships, I consider them all the same.


Some are, because they want to become rich and live the 'American Dream', brainwashed and deluded by your filthy capitalist propaganda, thinking they too can become rich in the US, the "land of the free" ( ), only to find out it's all just a lie.

Uh No, its because they want to escape dirt poor cuba where they don't even have a chance of bettering there circumstances. Cubans are not all living the good life, and then deciding all of sudden " wow it sure is great here in cuba, but I want to be filthy rich so imgoing to float in an intertube to america. Why does nobody float back?



Are you kidding me? OK, follow this logic here:
Who leaves Cuba for the US? The people that don't want to remain in Cuba, meaning the people that don't care for equality

Um NO, Not people who don't care for equality, people who don't want to live in a dirt poor country with no oppurtunities. How come no body is dying to get in to Cuba and share in it's equality?


Who told you Cuba is communist? And, more importantly, why were you dumb enough to believe it?

Fidel Castro did, moron.


Another round of idiotic commy arguements refuted.

[MrDoom]

Another round of idiotic commy arguements refuted.
Lots of flaming, but nothing refuted, just a bunch of cappie propagandist nonsense.

[Avtomatov]

Your idiot friend palachoniv thinks Cuba is the greatest place to live ever. Why don't you try educating him. Name a western state worse off than cuba
Capitalist is not the same thing as western. If you want western states, as in the western hemisphere, worse off then cuba in terms of income disparity here is some of them:

Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, Brazil, Colombia, Venezuela, Peru, Suriname, Guyana, Paraguay, Ecuador, Bolivia, Haiti, Anguila, Antigua and Barbuda, Aruba, Barbados Cayman Islands, Dominica, Guadeloupe, Dominican Republic, Jamaica, Martinique, Peurto Rico, Panama, Mexico.

And those are only the ones i can think of the top off my head. The full list would include every single state in the western hemisphere.

If you want a list of all the CAPITALIST states in the western hemisphere which are worse off in terms of income disparity then cuba, then the list is exactly the same.


Yes, I am well aware of this claim. But since every communist revolution results in the same authoritarian dictatorships, I consider them all the same.
I do not think you understand it still. We are not saying if a communist revolution was democratic that it would then be called communist state. There will never be a communist state. The only communist society that will exist, will be the entire world devoid of borders. Understand their are stages in communist theory, i do not think you understand this. First there is a socialist stage, once every country is united under the socialist banner then the state will start to fade, and communism will result some time afterwards.


Fidel Castro did, moron.

No, never. Provide a source. It is a communist revolution, but it is not a communist state. You fail to grasp the semantics of it.


Another round of idiotic commy arguements refuted.
Im sorry, but i think you are a narcissist. This is a serious mental illness.

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2006, 03:23 PM
Fidel Castro did, moron.
When? Where? Why did you believe it?



Another round of idiotic commy arguements refuted.
You fail. Again.

[bloody_capitalist_sham]

THats a very good website :)

i am very impressed. Good Find

[Patchd]

Where did you get this nonsense from? Cuba has the second best health care system in the world? Care to provede any non commy propaganda evidence fo this ridiculous claim? No idiot, we are not forbbidden form traveling to cuba, we are forbidden form trading with the evil dictatorship of Cuba. You have lost all grip on reality if you believe this crap my friend. Even your fellow commy admits cuba is undeniably poor. Get some actual facts to abck oyour nonsense up next time, dipshit.

Well I'm sure the BBC isnt communist, you being a dumbass probably dont know what the BBC is, its the British Broadcasting Corporation. In one of their News program, they claimed that Cuba had the second best healthcare in the world, after Canada. If we dont listen to "commy propaganda" sources, then what would we listen to? Capitalist propaganda, which would try its best to falsely present Cuba like you have claimed as "an evil dictatorship".
Oh and also, from Wikipedia; "The U.S. also re-established the travel ban, prohibiting U.S. citizens from spending money in Cuba. "
yes, it is poor, it is poor internationally so is unable to import expensive luxory goods, however, like I have said; second best healthcare readily available to all, same with education...


No not everyone, just about 95% would like to get out of poor ass, zero oppurtunity Cuba.

Now you get me facts for this claim.


You are a complete idiot with ZERO grasp on reality. Wrong, allot of them have fled every year since the revolution because in cuba everyone is born dirt poor and they have zero oppurtunity of improving their situation.


Dirst poor maybe, but everyone has food, free education, free health care, and the vast majority have jobs (unemployment rating is lower than in the USA). They are poor in the sense that they dont have big businesses which exploit the labour of proletarians worldwide and so are unable to gain so much profit, which the bourgeoisie would keep for themselves anyways.


WRONG, that sentance makes complete sense, you just lack the mental capacity to understand even the simplest things. Please prove you are not mentally retarded and tell me exactly how that sentance does not make sense.

Well, I can't prove that I am mentally incapable of understanding facts, but the way you keep making mistakes in your sentences while trying to criticise other people's mental capability shows that you are a dumbass. ie: sentence is spelt with an "E", not an "A"...you made this mistake twice. Looks like your US education system has failed you.

...facts to abck oyour nonsense...
I suggest you either take keyboard typing lessons, or go back to school.

If Cuba is the best example of a communists state you commies can come up with, no wonder nobody takes you seriously.
To make this sentence (once again, its spelt with an "E" and not an "A") make sense, then you must write it like this; "If Cuba is the best example of a communist (thats communist WITHOUT an "S") state you commies can come up with, THEN ITS no wonder THAT nobody takes you seriously.


Your idiot friend palachoniv thinks Cuba is the greatest place to live ever. Why don't you try educating him. Name a western state worse off than cuba.
I never said it is the greatest place to live, although it would be great if I grew up there, and also my name is spelt Palachinov...you IDIOT.

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2006, 03:23 PM

Castro has never claimed Cuba to be Communist.

Completely wrong. Check your facts.
:lol: If you are claiming Cuba declared itself communist, it's obviously up to you to provide evidence for this. Any 12 year old could get this, why don't you? :unsure:


Where did you get this nonsense from? Cuba has the second best health care system in the world? Care to provede any non commy propaganda evidence fo this ridiculous claim?
World Health Organisation (http://www3.who.int/whosis/core/core_select_process.cfm?country=cub&indicators=selected&language=en) (I'm pretty sure they're not commies :lol: )


Uh No, its because they want to escape dirt poor cuba where they don't even have a chance of bettering there circumstances. Cubans are not all living the good life, and then deciding all of sudden " wow it sure is great here in cuba, but I want to be filthy rich so imgoing to float in an intertube to america. Why does nobody float back?

Um NO, Not people who don't care for equality, people who don't want to live in a dirt poor country with no oppurtunities. How come no body is dying to get in to Cuba and share in it's equality?
Uh, I answer your question and you respond by... asking the same question again? :huh:

[Sugar Hill Kevis]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2006, 02:23 PM
Fidel Castro did, moron.
actually I believe he used the term "socialist republic"