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Organic Revolution
5th September 2006, 07:33
article (http://www.infoshop.org/inews/article.php?story=20060904190818292)

ahab
5th September 2006, 07:58
Originally posted by Organic [email protected] 5 2006, 04:34 AM
article (http://www.infoshop.org/inews/article.php?story=20060904190818292)
goddamn coppers, this country is so full of shit....free speech my ass, if anyone tries to tell people whats really goin on thy get shut down, its bullshit. This is a police state, I had a FBI ***** come to my door just for postin on this site, we are bein watched 24/7 and nothin goes unseen. They call us terrorists, well theyre the goddamn terrorists takin away our rights and abusin us. I say just as many have before me FUCK THE POLICE!

atlas
5th September 2006, 08:21
hah...you've really had the FBI come to your door? good thing I use tor...but it wouldn't do any good if they moniter me from the ISP.

= S


I hope they didn't find out about all my terrorist plots :unsure:
(that was sarcasm. <_< )

Let&#39;s see that trip their internet traffic monitors. ;)

ahab
5th September 2006, 08:46
yes they are snoopy assholes and actually came to my house telling me I was involved in terrorist activities, although i kno they were just tryin to scare me

atlas
5th September 2006, 08:57
Yea with any luck they&#39;ll read that I was being sarcastic...and won&#39;t send a SWAT team to my house.

As for Mos Def, that sucks, hope this makes it to the TV news, people don&#39;t tend to believe anything that&#39;s not made it to the TV. <_<

ahab
5th September 2006, 09:22
i kno wtf&#33; I also want to see the tape that his lawyer or w/e was gonna put on the net

atlas
5th September 2006, 10:03
Do you know if he plans on putting it on the internet? Or are you just assuming that?

ahab
5th September 2006, 10:05
Def’s publicist Carlene Donovan said that her client had been handled harshly and said she plans to release a video of the incident onto the internet.

the publicist said they were gonna release the video, I just hope they do

atlas
5th September 2006, 10:07
Whoops...skipped over that part. :unsure:

EDIT: but I would like to see it too. This should unfold very interestingly (I hope that is a word).

Ze
5th September 2006, 15:52
Mos Def. He&#39;s already my favorite actor and one of my favorite rappers. I now admire him that much more.

Simotix
5th September 2006, 17:42
Not to consider you a liar or anything, but I don&#39;t really believe that the FBI came to your house.

Invader Zim
5th September 2006, 17:48
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2006, 03:43 PM
Not to consider you a liar or anything, but I don&#39;t really believe that the FBI came to your house.
Certainly not about this place, in all the years I have been posting here I have never heard a story like it.

somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback
5th September 2006, 18:17
I remember atlas posting that police story before, it wasn&#39;t about RevLeft. No reason to assume he&#39;s lying.

As for Mos Def, this sucks. They can&#39;t hold him long for that, I hope.

Dr. Rosenpenis
5th September 2006, 20:38
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2006, 12:47 AM
yes they are snoopy assholes and actually came to my house telling me I was involved in terrorist activities, although i kno they were just tryin to scare me
...based on something you posted here?

atlas
5th September 2006, 21:53
I remember atlas posting that police story before, it wasn&#39;t about RevLeft. No reason to assume he&#39;s lying.

As for Mos Def, this sucks. They can&#39;t hold him long for that, I hope.


I think you meant Ahab.

Alex S.
5th September 2006, 22:59
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2006, 07:06 AM

Def’s publicist Carlene Donovan said that her client had been handled harshly and said she plans to release a video of the incident onto the internet.

the publicist said they were gonna release the video, I just hope they do
Here it is. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNKnoIV6BT4)

The Grey Blur
5th September 2006, 23:06
Thank God they arrested them, that has to be some of the most tuneless music I&#39;ve ever heard

overthrowthebeast726
5th September 2006, 23:09
That sucks, so people aren&#39;t allowed to express themselves over the problems and situations are still present in the country? What the fuck&#33;

atlas
6th September 2006, 00:11
Well it looks like he could have been holding up traffic...I doubt that it had anything to do with his message.

But then again I could be naive here.

Gunman
6th September 2006, 01:26
Originally posted by Permanent [email protected] 5 2006, 08:07 PM
Thank God they arrested them, that has to be some of the most tuneless music I&#39;ve ever heard
Nevertheless, it sucks what happened to him.

ahab
6th September 2006, 02:10
Originally posted by Invader Zim+Sep 5 2006, 02:49 PM--> (Invader Zim @ Sep 5 2006, 02:49 PM)
[email protected] 5 2006, 03:43 PM
Not to consider you a liar or anything, but I don&#39;t really believe that the FBI came to your house.
Certainly not about this place, in all the years I have been posting here I have never heard a story like it. [/b]
well just to let you know Im not lying, I wouldnt just say that to be cool or something it was because of this post Assault against the Police (http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=51030), that it happened the thread is edited cuz of its contents but it was one of the first threads I ever made on this site and a few days later the agent came to my home giving my mother quite a surprise, he just wanted to question me about my post and any involvement with terrorists groups and blah blah blah I didnt get taken to jail or nothin he just warned me to be careful and that i shouldnt post things like that in here. But I swear Im not lying.


Thanx for the vid link damn pigs fuckin with EVERYONE&#33;

which doctor
6th September 2006, 02:17
I still highly doubt that.

How did they even know where you live?

bezdomni
6th September 2006, 02:25
Some guys I used to work with made a joking comment on myspace where they said they would drive their tram full of tourists into a ditch and see how many people the alligators would eat (or something like that). A few days later, NSA was waiting for them when they clocked in. They were both fired (for the comment) and I suspect they were on quite a few lists.

Nothing happened with the NSA, they just asked them questions for about 15 minutes and left.

Oh yeah, one of the guys was Arab - that probably had a lot to do with it.

atlas
6th September 2006, 02:41
I still highly doubt that.

How did they even know where you live
If You&#39;re in the USA:
There was a bill passed where all the ISP&#39;s (Your Internet Service Provider) had to put in backdoors for the NSA or FBI to moniter traffic, without warrant; they have servers that scan all the traffic for words that a terrorist might use, like &#39;bomb&#39; or something to that effect. They then trace the word to the IP address that sent it (kind of like your adress on the internet, so the traffic knows who to go to.) and then have the ISP tell them who the IP address belonged to at that time. (since most IP addies are dynamic, that is, they change and renew themselves, the ISP keeps logs of who had what IP at what time.). Of course they all this in the name of The Patriot Act.

I believe they have something similar in most of europe, too.


Oh yeah, one of the guys was Arab - that probably had a lot to do with it.

undoubtedly.

ahab
6th September 2006, 03:06
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2006, 11:18 PM
I still highly doubt that.

How did they even know where you live?
like I said i dont care if you believe me or not im not tryin to be cool or tough or anything, I kno it happened. How did they know where I live? They&#39;re the GODDAMN FBI im sure it cant be that hard to figure out&#33;

While on the subject of wondering how people find you I went to a nazi protest in olympia washington, Im from Utah, dateline news some how figured out my phone number and called me I didnt pick it up so maybe it was just a crazy coincidence that as soon as I returned home from washington that dateline news from washington was calling my house whether they knew me or not. The strangest part is that my identity was completely hidden unless they kno me from just my eyes or something and I didnt talk to any reporters or anything. Strange shit

http://myspace-005.vo.llnwd.net/01074/50/02/1074582005_l.jpg
thats me from the rally, now how the hell do they kno who I am and kno my phone number? My only guess is that theres fuckin spies runnin around or some shit lol i dont kno I still think its crazy, how anonymous are we really? do they just want us to think we are so they can lay in the shadows and observe us until they can nab us? Goddamn you BIG BROTHER&#33;&#33;&#33;

Tekun
6th September 2006, 03:50
This garbage pisses me off...arresting Mos Def just for singing on the street
This and other events gives u an idea of what this country, and most of the world for that matter, is coming to




Thank God they arrested them, that has to be some of the most tuneless music I&#39;ve ever heard

I concur... :P
Has to be one of his worst songs
Good message but terrible beat, nevertheless...

which doctor
6th September 2006, 04:21
Yeah, I&#39;m pretty much positive that revleft is monitored by the US gov&#39;t. They might just have automatic crawlers searching for "danger words" or they might have live humans reading our posts.

:ph34r:

Scary shit.

Ze
6th September 2006, 23:37
Originally posted by ahab+Sep 6 2006, 05:07 AM--> (ahab @ Sep 6 2006, 05:07 AM)
[email protected] 5 2006, 11:18 PM
I still highly doubt that.

How did they even know where you live?
like I said i dont care if you believe me or not im not tryin to be cool or tough or anything, I kno it happened. How did they know where I live? They&#39;re the GODDAMN FBI im sure it cant be that hard to figure out&#33;

While on the subject of wondering how people find you I went to a nazi protest in olympia washington, Im from Utah, dateline news some how figured out my phone number and called me I didnt pick it up so maybe it was just a crazy coincidence that as soon as I returned home from washington that dateline news from washington was calling my house whether they knew me or not. The strangest part is that my identity was completely hidden unless they kno me from just my eyes or something and I didnt talk to any reporters or anything. Strange shit

http://myspace-005.vo.llnwd.net/01074/50/02/1074582005_l.jpg
thats me from the rally, now how the hell do they kno who I am and kno my phone number? My only guess is that theres fuckin spies runnin around or some shit lol i dont kno I still think its crazy, how anonymous are we really? do they just want us to think we are so they can lay in the shadows and observe us until they can nab us? Goddamn you BIG BROTHER&#33;&#33;&#33; [/b]
you are the fuckin man&#33; just had to say that. much respect to you for being one of us, those who don&#39;t live with fear dictating our thoughts and actions.

somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback
7th September 2006, 01:19
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2006, 07:54 PM

I remember atlas posting that police story before, it wasn&#39;t about RevLeft. No reason to assume he&#39;s lying.

As for Mos Def, this sucks. They can&#39;t hold him long for that, I hope.


I think you meant Ahab.
Sory, yes.

atlas
7th September 2006, 02:06
Sory

no worries. :)

Any word from his attornies?

ahab
7th September 2006, 07:54
Originally posted by Ze+Sep 6 2006, 08:38 PM--> (Ze @ Sep 6 2006, 08:38 PM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2006, 05:07 AM

[email protected] 5 2006, 11:18 PM
I still highly doubt that.

How did they even know where you live?
like I said i dont care if you believe me or not im not tryin to be cool or tough or anything, I kno it happened. How did they know where I live? They&#39;re the GODDAMN FBI im sure it cant be that hard to figure out&#33;

While on the subject of wondering how people find you I went to a nazi protest in olympia washington, Im from Utah, dateline news some how figured out my phone number and called me I didnt pick it up so maybe it was just a crazy coincidence that as soon as I returned home from washington that dateline news from washington was calling my house whether they knew me or not. The strangest part is that my identity was completely hidden unless they kno me from just my eyes or something and I didnt talk to any reporters or anything. Strange shit

http://myspace-005.vo.llnwd.net/01074/50/02/1074582005_l.jpg
thats me from the rally, now how the hell do they kno who I am and kno my phone number? My only guess is that theres fuckin spies runnin around or some shit lol i dont kno I still think its crazy, how anonymous are we really? do they just want us to think we are so they can lay in the shadows and observe us until they can nab us? Goddamn you BIG BROTHER&#33;&#33;&#33;
you are the fuckin man&#33; just had to say that. much respect to you for being one of us, those who don&#39;t live with fear dictating our thoughts and actions. [/b]
well thanx comrade, but you bring up a good point. We cant be afriad of what we are trying to destroy, thats what I see in most people who claim to want &#39;revolution&#39; and want to make a difference at the first sign of police they scatter, hide. I say we just walk up to them and show them they are no longer the intimidation and they can no longer push us around. WE are the mojority they can either join us or DIE&#33; Of course this policy of rising up is useless unless the majority backs it up, which im sad to say right now we dont. Maybe one day, but until then keep it brutal and keep it underground&#33;