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reaper68
5th September 2006, 06:34
Right now we are in real danger of a staged government false flag terror attack. The Bush regime is determined to go into Iran and without another terror attack they will never have enough support from the Amercian people to achieve this goal.

There are several major terror drills coming up this week which offer perfect cover for the government to stage an attack. Drills were used as cover for the 9/11 and 7/7 attacks both of which were carried out by the U.S. and British governments

See the upcoming drills here
http://www.falseflagnews.com


Also it is important to note that the Bush administration has a long history of benifitig from terrorism Here are a few examples

Read this article out of the register that talks about how British terror plot was likely fake.
http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?ItemID=21261
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/08/17/fl...et_terror_labs/ (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/08/17/flying_toilet_terror_labs/)

The Daily Show Deconstructs Fed’s Miami Terrorists Hype
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8a4z9N3eYc

CNN's Anderson Cooper: Are Sears Tower Terrorists Patsies?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su2GaxvRLYE...%2Eprisonplanet (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su2GaxvRLYE&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eprisonplanet) %2Ecom%2Farticles%2Fjuly2006%2F040706patsies%2Ehtm

MSNBC's Countdown: Bush wanted to stage the shootdown of a UN plane to lure Saddam into war
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4D5MRkzPYA

MSNBC's Countdown The Nexus of Politics and Terror: Bush uses terrorism for political gain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az7yl-UnsQQ

While Bush wasn't responsible for the 7/7 bombings in London I feel it is important to also point out that they were carried out by the British Government

BBC News Drills on the morning of 7/7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ65NwtbQic

Fox News 7/7 London bombings mastermind was working for Mi6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoxPY3H5EqA


Here are some of the crimes Bush has commited in the name of protecting us from terrorism

Bush has broken over 800 Laws (note this aricle is from a while back and says only 700 but it's over 800 now)
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles...ndreds_of_laws/ (http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/04/30/bush_challenges_hundreds_of_laws/)

He's also signed the U.S.A. Patriot Act which is totally unconstitutional
http://www.epic.org/privacy/terrorism/hr3162.html
http://www.eff.org/Privacy/Surveillance/Te...ot_analysis.php (http://www.eff.org/Privacy/Surveillance/Terrorism/20011031_eff_usa_patriot_analysis.php)

He's used the NSA to spy on the American people without warrents in violation of the 4th amendment.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10592932/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk5eWtAYno4

He's also been illegaly monitoring peoples bank records
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...6062300167.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/23/AR2006062300167.html)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3J1K2oU8OA

He's used more signing statements than any other president. A signing statement is simply saying that he can disobey any law he passes when he wants to.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/06/27/...in1755263.shtml (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/06/27/politics/main1755263.shtml)

He's done everything he can to make torture legal
http://mathaba.net/0_index.shtml?x=504353
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/artic...1-2004Jun8.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A26401-2004Jun8.html)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-hWnXEy40s

He's also signed bills that haven't passed the congress
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Congress...ident_0315.html (http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Congressman_writes_White_House_Did_President_0315. html)


Also the U.S. government has admited that in 1962 it wanted to stage terror attacks on U.S. soil as a pretext to invade cuba. This was all declassified under operation northwoods. Operation northwoods was even reported on by ABC News. Fortunately President Kennedy did not go along with norhtwoods so the plan never went operational.

ABC News covers operation northwoods
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662

Here is a copy of operation northwoods from the national security archive
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf

Also here is a news clip about operation northwoods.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IygchZRJVXM


To learn the truth about 9/11 and government sponsered terrorism watch tthese free online videos.

Terrorstorm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=57...&q=terror+storm (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5792753647750188322&q=terror+storm)

Martial Law 911 Rise of the Police State
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6...1&q=martial+law (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6495462761605341661&q=martial+law)

911 The Road to Tyranny
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1...9985&q=911+road (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1358726890127819985&q=911+road)

Loose Change 2nd Edition
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5...&q=911+cover+up (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5946593973848835726&q=911+cover+up)

Hooligan32
5th September 2006, 06:56
I agree that there is without a doubt a possibility that the U.S. government had a hand in 9/11, however I can't discount the possibility that the act was infact carried out by an organization, most of who's members were easily rallied behind a fanatic religious ideaology (much like America's), lead by a man who's actual interest lies in the commodity of oil (much like America's leader). I see both Osama Bin Laden and Dick Cheney as very similar men, using an undereducated population to further their gain. The only questions are who will the winner of capitalism be and how can we replace this twisted system with a feasible alternative before more people get fucked.

reaper68
5th September 2006, 09:33
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2006, 03:57 AM
I agree that there is without a doubt a possibility that the U.S. government had a hand in 9/11, however I can't discount the possibility that the act was infact carried out by an organization, most of who's members were easily rallied behind a fanatic religious ideaology (much like America's), lead by a man who's actual interest lies in the commodity of oil (much like America's leader). I see both Osama Bin Laden and Dick Cheney as very similar men, using an undereducated population to further their gain. The only questions are who will the winner of capitalism be and how can we replace this twisted system with a feasible alternative before more people get fucked.
Ok I see what your saying but let's assume they're really were real hijackers. If that is the case then why have 7 of them turned out to be alive

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1559151.stm

It seems to me that they're were no real hijackes and that the government took control of the planes, nerve gassed everyone on board and then flew them by remote control into the world trade center and pentagon while using drills to confuse NORAD so that the planes were not intercepted and shot down. The planes flew off course for an hour and twenty minutes. Unsually the max time it takes to scramble fighters to intercept an aircrft is 15 minutes. They had more than enough time to shoot those planes down but they didn't. Also Dick Cheney was personally in command of NORAD on that day and any shootdown orders had to be given by him. Keep in mind that's not how NORAD usually operates. Usually generals have the power to shoot down hijacked aircraft but months before 9/11 Dick Cheney ordered Donald Rumsfeild to give him personl control over NORAD. Looks suspicous to me what do you think.

Also WTC building 7 was clearly brought down by controled demoliton. Building 7 was not hit by a plane and later the ower went on television and slipped up and admitted that he pulled building 7

WTC 7 imploding - Dan Rather comments
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BcquyD_DcQ

Larry Silverstein admitting that he pulled building 7. Keep in mind it takes days to wire a building for demolition. But magically they were able to do it on 9/11 in just a few hours.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7he_sAVs0A...y%20Silverstein (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7he_sAVs0A&search=Larry%20Silverstein)

Kamraten
5th September 2006, 11:39
Well i think that it is Israel who will get the staged terror attack this time. It would be easier that way to invade Iran. But it will probably be huge, mayby some uranium involved. Or else i cant see how the people in the world would go along with it.

The Grey Blur
5th September 2006, 18:05
TRASH THIS THREAD PLEASE

RedAnarchist
5th September 2006, 18:23
7/7 was possibly carried out by the British government? Personally I wouldn't be surprised if Blair et al had some part in it.

Jazzratt
5th September 2006, 18:48
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2006, 03:24 PM
7/7 was possibly carried out by the British government? Personally I wouldn't be surprised if Blair et al had some part in it.
Really? Do you have anything sensible behind this hypothesis or is it just "TEH UBMINT IZ T3H EEEEEEEEEEVILZ"

Sugar Hill Kevis
5th September 2006, 20:04
does this guy post anything exept conspiracy threads with an abundance of links?

ComradeOm
5th September 2006, 20:13
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2006, 05:05 PM
does this guy post anything exept conspiracy threads with an abundance of links?
That's what these nuts do best. By putting forward a barrage of links and "evidence" they hope to mask the gapping flaws that common sense leaves in their arguments.

ItalianCommie
5th September 2006, 20:53
Look, I'm not prejudiced or anything, but I really don't have time for this. I don't think anyone of us has time for that. Trying to uncover a Michael-Crichton-conspiracy-theory is not my idea of propaganda. I think exploitation of the masses is far more easier to prove credible to the masses themselves.
:hammer: :redstar: :engles: :marx: :che: :castro: :cuba: =D

Tekun
6th September 2006, 04:31
Originally posted by Permanent [email protected] 5 2006, 03:06 PM
TRASH THIS THREAD PLEASE
x2

The guy never learns

Severian
6th September 2006, 08:04
Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2006, 09:35 PM
Also it is important to note that the Bush administration has a long history of benifitig from terrorism
Which hardly means they staged the attacks.

On the contrary, attacks like al-Qaeda's are an inevitable product of the workings of the capitalist system, combined with imperialist domination of the world.

It'd be impractical to stage such attacks on a significant scale. Somebody involved would leak...and besides, what CIA agent is going to blow him/herself up?

Think about it; the agents, officers, and soldiers can only justify their actions even to themselves by constantly repeating that they are defending "America" from "terrorism". So who is going to organize these attacks with total loyalty and secrecy? How could Bush et al be sure they would?

bcbm
6th September 2006, 18:35
This reminds me of those apocalyptic prophets... they'd always predict the end of the world and when they're wrong, oops, they miscalculated slightly, the REAL date is...

Same shit with the "GOVERNMENT PLANNED TERROR ATTACK IMMINENT" crowd.

Don't Change Your Name
6th September 2006, 18:55
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2006, 03:34 AM
It seems to me that they're were no real hijackes and that the government took control of the planes, nerve gassed everyone on board and then flew them by remote control into the world trade center and pentagon while using drills to confuse NORAD so that the planes were not intercepted and shot down.
Yeah, sure, and Nostradamus predicted that you'll be abducted by aliens while you're practising reiki :lol:

Guerrilla22
7th September 2006, 03:13
I wouldn't be surprised if the government is planning to stage a terrorist attack, those attacking this idea seem to forget that the US government has staged or knowingly allowed attacks to happen to US assets over the years. Remeber the Maine, Lusathana, Pearl Harbor and Gulf of Tonken?

Severian
12th September 2006, 05:29
Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2006, 06:14 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if the government is planning to stage a terrorist attack, those attacking this idea seem to forget that the US government has staged or knowingly allowed attacks to happen to US assets over the years. Remeber the Maine, Lusathana, Pearl Harbor and Gulf of Tonken?
Sure. Do you?

The Maine - a battleship which probably blew up accidentally (coal bunker fire setting off a powder magazine) - this random event was used as an excuse for war against Spain.

Lusitania - was in fact torpedoed by the German Navy. Not the product of a plot or cabal - rather an example of the inevitable conflict between the German submarine blockade of Britain and the U.S. policy of supplying weapons to Britain.

Pearl Harbor - again, not staged. Not the product of a plot. Flowed from the rivalry between Japan and the U.S. over China and the Pacific - and specifically from the U.S. oil and iron embargo on Japan, which successfully maneuvered Japan into firing the first shot.

Gulf of Tonkin - it's not clear that there was any attack at all - other than commando attacks on the north Vietnamese coastline! Radar shadows were overhyped into an excuse for war. The CIA did not have to create any fake attacks.

In all these cases, an analysis of social forces does more to explain the causes of war - and orient people to fight against it - than any explanations depending on secret plots and cabals.

Kamraten
12th September 2006, 11:06
Just open ur eyes and understand how men with power and money do buisness, especialy if your carrying the role of freedom. Its an old strategy , used by rome used by hitler. its easy, create a problem, an enemy an attack upon the people, wait for the reaction of fear and rage , come up with the solution use the fear and direct its rage. Problem reaction solution.
Why dont you see this, when its descenders from the Nazis that our running USA. bushs grandfathers was a nazi, collaborating and financing hitler. And you think his sons are different? wake up and just admit to your mind, that you were fooled. Join our struggle the revolution will come with the truth so be apart of it.

Dreckt
12th September 2006, 14:59
If there was a plot, then why not attack Mecca, and then they would have their third world war, which is what they need if I am correct.

Look, after Lenin died, the Soviet system left their thoughts and development towards real socialism. When Mao died, his "legacy" was quickly forgotten, and new leaders dropped the idea and moved towards capitalism. If these political systems can not even follow their "leader's" great plan for the future, then how in hell can this huge, global conspiracy of some secret sect even be possible?

ComradeOm
12th September 2006, 19:19
Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2006, 12:14 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if the government is planning to stage a terrorist attack, those attacking this idea seem to forget that the US government has staged or knowingly allowed attacks to happen to US assets over the years. Remeber the Maine, Lusathana, Pearl Harbor and Gulf of Tonken?
Everyone knows that every single incident in the world is staged by the US government. I stubbed my toe yeasterday... maybe it was the CIA behind it!