Platformists

[guydebordisdead]

Just wondering what you think about the Organizational Platform of the General Union of Anarchists
(link - http://www.anarkismo.net/newswire.php?story_id=1000)
and platformist groups in general.

WSM (http://www.wsm.ie), Nefac (http://www.nefac.net) and Zabalaza (http://www.zabalaza.net) are all platformist groups, there are a good few more too.

[rebelworker]

Personally ive been moving more and more towards Especifismo (http://nefac.net/node/2081), as a more accurate description of where im at politically, although I still hold much of the platformist critique and spirit.

But Im kinda biased, hehehe

here's a good link to articles on Platformism (http://nefac.net/node/544)

[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2006, 12:44 PM
Just wondering what you think about the Organizational Platform of the General Union of Anarchists
(link - http://www.anarkismo.net/newswire.php?story_id=1000)
and platformist groups in general.

WSM (http://www.wsm.ie), Nefac (http://www.nefac.net) and Zabalaza (http://www.zabalaza.net) are all platformist groups, there are a good few more too.
I think Malatesta summned up the problems with the Platform in his critique, 'A Project of Anarchist Organisation.' (http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/platform/malatesta_project.html)

[guydebordisdead]

Originally posted by The Anarchist Tension+Sep 5 2006, 11:17 AM--> (The Anarchist Tension @ Sep 5 2006, 11:17 AM)
[email protected] 4 2006, 12:44 PM
Just wondering what you think about the Organizational Platform of the General Union of Anarchists
(link - http://www.anarkismo.net/newswire.php?story_id=1000)
and platformist groups in general.

WSM (http://www.wsm.ie), Nefac (http://www.nefac.net) and Zabalaza (http://www.zabalaza.net) are all platformist groups, there are a good few more too.
I think Malatesta summned up the problems with the Platform in his critique, 'A Project of Anarchist Organisation.' (http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/platform/malatesta_project.html) [/b]
Yes but have you read the reply to Malatesta?

http://www.nestormakhno.info/english/abouplat.htm

[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by guydebordisdead+Sep 5 2006, 12:43 PM--> (guydebordisdead @ Sep 5 2006, 12:43 PM)
Originally posted by The Anarchist [email protected] 5 2006, 11:17 AM

[email protected] 4 2006, 12:44 PM
Just wondering what you think about the Organizational Platform of the General Union of Anarchists
(link - http://www.anarkismo.net/newswire.php?story_id=1000)
and platformist groups in general.

WSM (http://www.wsm.ie), Nefac (http://www.nefac.net) and Zabalaza (http://www.zabalaza.net) are all platformist groups, there are a good few more too.
I think Malatesta summned up the problems with the Platform in his critique, 'A Project of Anarchist Organisation.' (http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/platform/malatesta_project.html)
Yes but have you read the reply to Malatesta?

http://www.nestormakhno.info/english/abouplat.htm [/b]
Yes, and I have read Malatesta's reply to Makhno too..

[PRC-UTE]

Well there's one obvious problem, platformism is based on Ukranian peasants organisations...?

[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by PRC-[email protected] 6 2006, 11:02 PM
Well there's one obvious problem, platformism is based on Ukranian peasants organisations...?
No it isn't.

[Devrim]

I think that the Platformists seem to represent the most 'leftist' tendency within anarchism. On lots of issues their tends to be very little difference between them, and the Troskyists.
One example of this would be their stand on national liberation movements. There is a link here to a letter from us criticising their position on anarckismo: http://www.anarkismo.net/newswire.php?story_id=3684
I don't think that this is something inherent in the platform, but if you look at NEFAC, the WSM, and Zabalaza, it seem to be the case.
Devrim

[hoopla]

Interesting article devrim.

I would be interested in hearing about what is wrong with purism? Is it the case that peple want to make the project more accesible? Thats quite a tricky question to deal with (to me), if it is the case.

[PRC-UTE]

Originally posted by The Anarchist Tension+Sep 6 2006, 11:17 PM--> (The Anarchist Tension @ Sep 6 2006, 11:17 PM)
PRC-[email protected] 6 2006, 11:02 PM
Well there's one obvious problem, platformism is based on Ukranian peasants organisations...?
No it isn't. [/b]
It's been a while since I've read the Platform, but I thought it was based on Makhno's experiences in the Ukraine.

What's it based on then?

[rebelworker]

Its based essentially on a critique of the russian anarchist movement and their lack of cohesion at important moments in the revolution..

The Modern platformist movement only very minimqally uses the actual platform, we are just interested in building focused and effective anti authoritarian communist revolutionary organisations.

[PRC-UTE]

Sound, thanks for the response.

[The Feral Underclass]

"Those comrades are anxious for success as we are too. But to live and to succeed we don't have to repudiate the reasons for living and alter the character of the victory to come. We want to fight and win, but as anarchists - for Anarchy."
- Errico Malatesta

[violencia.Proletariat]

Originally posted by The Anarchist [email protected] 23 2006, 05:21 AM
"Those comrades are anxious for success as we are too. But to live and to succeed we don't have to repudiate the reasons for living and alter the character of the victory to come. We want to fight and win, but as anarchists - for Anarchy."
- Errico Malatesta
What was the point of this?

[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by violencia.Proletariat+Sep 23 2006, 09:06 PM--> (violencia.Proletariat @ Sep 23 2006, 09:06 PM)
The Anarchist [email protected] 23 2006, 05:21 AM
"Those comrades are anxious for success as we are too. But to live and to succeed we don't have to repudiate the reasons for living and alter the character of the victory to come. We want to fight and win, but as anarchists - for Anarchy."
- Errico Malatesta
What was the point of this? [/b]
Use your brain and work it out. It's no fun if I give you the answer...

[violencia.Proletariat]

Originally posted by The Anarchist Tension+Sep 23 2006, 08:50 PM--> (The Anarchist Tension @ Sep 23 2006, 08:50 PM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2006, 09:06 PM

The Anarchist [email protected] 23 2006, 05:21 AM
"Those comrades are anxious for success as we are too. But to live and to succeed we don't have to repudiate the reasons for living and alter the character of the victory to come. We want to fight and win, but as anarchists - for Anarchy."
- Errico Malatesta
What was the point of this?
Use your brain and work it out. It's no fun if I give you the answer... [/b]
How exactly is supporting the platform "un anarchist"?

[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2006, 04:46 AM
How exactly is supporting the platform "un anarchist"?
Essentially the platform rejects key anarchist principles, but disguises it with semantics.

Read the pamphlet that Malatesta wrote and you'll see.