Guerrilla and Urban Warfare Training

[Revolutionary Souljah]

I recently came across the biography of Carlos the Jackal and I read about how his father sent him to the DGI Camp Mantanzas in Cuba for two summers. That got me thinking...can we still do something like this today? Are there any training camps that we could go to as revolutionaries just like the Marines or the SEALs do?

[Comrade Kurtz]

Probably not without harassment from the lcoal government. It's essentially the same thing as terrorist training camps in their eyes.

[Guerrilla22]

Pick up Che's Guerrilla Warfare and On Guerrilla warfare by Mao, books can't teach you to shoot, but its a start.

[Sadena Meti]

There was a long thread exploring this last month, I'll link it.

And as I mentioned in it, if you are willing to give up everything, there's always FARC. Think of it as the Foreign Legion for leftists.

http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=54037

[LoneRed]

This isn't something that should be discussed on this unsecure internet forum.

[Tower of Bebel]

Well, I'm I reservist in training and I get a bit of military training each year. I could use that, but that also means I have a contract... with the state... the same state I could fight against if I wanted to.
If I would fight the state in a revoltution, and the revoltuion would fail, I would be send to court marshall, and, even worse... :unsure:

[An archist]

yes, but that's the case for anyone who fights the state, excpet maybe, they could charge you with deserting the army too.

[Leon Esperanza]

Humn, a theoreticall aproach won't hurt no one...

http://www.marxists.org/subject/war/index.htm
(Check out "On the guerrilla warfare" of Mao, Che's works and Marighella's Mini Manual of Urban Guerrilla)
http://es.geocities.com/eustaquio5/tacticas.html
(A great spanish source from a more anarchist aproach)
You could also seek for testimonials, maybe from Che's Bolivian diaries, Ukranian acount, or Mao's, or more modernday testimonials probably from Fuerzas Armadas Revolucionarias del Pueblo, or from the Partido Revolucionario de los Trabajadores, the Tupamaro's, there's planty from where to choose, I supose it depends on where you live.

Now if you're talking seriously on practice, the net might not be the most secure part to talk about it.

[Revolutionary Souljah]

if anyone has info on real camps PM me

[which doctor]

I don't think there are any real camps of this sort in any first-world nations.

Check out the link that rev-stoic gave for more info on this topic.

[Revolutionary Souljah]

i never said first world countries

here this is what im talking about:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_the_jackal#Early_life

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Intel...r_Point_Zero.29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Intelligence_Directorate#Camp_Mantanzas_.2 8AKA_.22Punto_Zero.22_or_Point_Zero.29)

read about 'camp mantanzas'

what im asking is there anyone one of these anywhere?

[Sadena Meti]

"If I do this I might risk arrest"
"If I do this I might risk imprisonment"
"If I do this I might risk execution"

If you haven't accepted that, don't bother thinking about training. Go back to the coffee shop and grow a goatee.

*edit*

I want to expand on this slightly.

Before you think about engaging in revolutionary paramilitary training, or even more-so, action, you need to accept:

You are going to die. Very soon, and without success or honor.
Or perhaps even better, you will be arrested as a complete shopping-mall-ninja-git, looking like a complete yuppie-wannabe-warrior, and sent to jail for the rest of your life without achieving anything.

Maybe you will, maybe you won't, but if you can't accept the above without reservation, don't bother. If you can't accept anonymous worthless pointless death, or public embarrassment life long imprisonment, find another way to express yourself. Grow a goatee and wave a placard, that will change the world.



(sorry, I'm in a mood, but it is a point worth making)

[The Feral Underclass]

This thread should be closed. Discussing military training in specifical training camps is not something for a public internet message board.

Please read the dislaimer at the top of the page.

[Delirium]

There is no need for any sort of camps, if you have skills that you think are valuable share them with like minded individuals. This attracts less attention from authorities.

[Sadena Meti]

Originally posted by Delerium [email protected] 4 2006, 05:52 PM
There is no need for any sort of camps, if you have skills that you think are valuable share them with like minded individuals. This attracts less attention from authorities.
Skills and experience are very different. Skills are easily learned and taught, experience is a bit more difficult to acquire.

For an example, I'm a wicked marksman. I can do shit with my Steyr Scout at 300 yards at the firing range that will drop jaws. But... what about real life? What about a situation where all hell is breaking loose and I've just run a mile and I end up somewhere I've never been and I'm bewildered and pumped with adrenaline. Could I even hit the paper?

The point of camps is experience, not skills. You should have the skills before you go.

[Delirium]

you dont need a camp to teach you experience either, by setting up or attending training camps you are simply endangering yourself.

btw very few people (if any) here have experience fighting in a revolution and a training camp will simulate that no better than you and your friends getting together informally.

[ComradeOm]

No one has experience of fighting a revolution. So forget Revolution 101. The best you can do there is read the history of past revolutions and the likes of Connolly or Che.

On the other hand the skills needed for combat during a revolution (shooting, tactics, survival skills, etc etc) can probably be taught in camps across the world. Even if you have to "go corporate". I'm sure there are plenty of camps, either in the US or Eastern Europe, where they wake you up early, shout at you all the time and let you shoot guns. The whole military experience.

[Revolutionary Souljah]

I believe the question was "does anyone know of any camps run by revolutionaries willing to train them?"

if you don't have an answer, please dont post your opinions on why camps are good or bad i honestly could give a fuck what you think, im just trying to find some.

[Tekun]

Maybe u don't understand....discussing military or revolutionary training camps on a public website poses a risk to all of us
Anyone can be monitoring us



if you don't have an answer, please dont post your opinions on why camps are good or bad i honestly could give a fuck what you think, im just trying to find some.

Why don't u try Google? :rolleyes:

[Sadena Meti]

Originally posted by Revolutionary [email protected] 4 2006, 07:53 PM
I believe the question was "does anyone know of any camps run by revolutionaries willing to train them?"

if you don't have an answer, please dont post your opinions on why camps are good or bad i honestly could give a fuck what you think, im just trying to find some.
Go read up on security culture. This isn't the classified ads at the back of Solider of Fortune.

[Leon Esperanza]

*Sigh*

And why exactly would you think they'd give you training?

let's see... two questions.

What country are you from?
What use will it have that you'de be trained on guerrilla warfare?

You see,
If the country in wich you live has no revolutionary process developed you should concentrate on developing it (you know...the usually thought of as boring work: study hard, form cells of activist, propagate the ideology, organize with others, demonstrate, atain the structure and infrastructure needed for a response, strive for a radicallization of the workers organizations you are in touch with, or if you are not in touch with any start moving your ass, etc.)

If you're going to let it all behind, you'de better be damn focused on your ideas 'cause as Mao said "Revolution is not like making pottery...."

Oh well, and if you're stuborn enough, try getting the peripheric, but necesary, skills and experience before. Try survival camps (even the Boy Scouts have something like this), Medical Urgency First Respondant (hop aboard an ambulance as a voluntary), train in self defence, learn other languages, learn how to crack on internet, how to make radio or other electrical instalations, etc, trust me, that comes in handy.

[ahab]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2006, 03:02 PM
Well, I'm I reservist in training and I get a bit of military training each year. I could use that, but that also means I have a contract... with the state... the same state I could fight against if I wanted to.
If I would fight the state in a revoltution, and the revoltuion would fail, I would be send to court marshall, and, even worse... :unsure:
ur in the military? are u in the states? what branch?

just curious im not tryin to be too nosey or anything

[ComradeOm]

Originally posted by Revolutionary [email protected] 5 2006, 12:53 AM
I believe the question was "does anyone know of any camps run by revolutionaries willing to train them?"

if you don't have an answer, please dont post your opinions on why camps are good or bad i honestly could give a fuck what you think, im just trying to find some.
And the answer has been no. People have then gone on to suggest alternatives.

I'll spell it out if you can't understand that: There are no camps that you may attend where "revolutionaries" are willing to train you. Is that clear enough for you? If you want to play weekend soldier then either join the military or follow through on the suggestions offered in this thread. Just don't expect to fly out to some tropical training camp, be thought how to overthrow the capitalist system and then fly home with a nice tan.

[Revolutionary Souljah]

Originally posted by ComradeOm+--> (ComradeOm)I'll spell it out if you can't understand that: There are no camps that you may attend where "revolutionaries" are willing to train you. Is that clear enough for you?[/b]

see thats what i thought until i came across this...


wikipedia
Sánchez was born in Caracas, Venezuela. His father, a Marxist lawyer, gave him the forename Ilich, after Lenin. He was educated at a local school in Caracas and joined the youth movement of the national communist party in 1959. Apart from his native Spanish, he reportedly speaks Arabic and Russian, as well as English and French. After attending the Third Tricontinental in January, 1966, with his father, he spent the following summer at Camp Mantanzas, a guerrilla warfare school run by the Cuban DGI located near Havana

the reason i was upset with peoples answers was because everyone that has replied has no knowledge of the question. if someone asks you for directions and you dont know them, you tell them "i dont know where that is", not "why dont you try this?" or "i dont think you wanna go to this place because blah blah blah..."

if you dont know about a camp, dont post. if you know of one and dont wanna talk about it PM so we can get in touch.

[Sadena Meti]

Originally posted by Revolutionary [email protected] 5 2006, 12:08 PM
if you know of one and dont wanna talk about it PM so we can get in touch.
You've got to be joking. Yeah, PM's on a message board, a highly secure conduit for covert communication.

I agree with the mod, at this point this thread should be locked. The previous thread discussed all that was needed. Discussed that past camps existed in a revolutionary age when new governments were seeking to export their revolution. That age is over.

[Forward Union]

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