Nazis and Commies

[emma_goldman]

These polls are stupid but I think this one is relevant.

The question is: Do you agree with President Bush when he likens Islamic fundamentalism with the struggle against Nazis and communists?

When I voted. 41% said yes! :lol:

[Okocim]

er...poll?

what a load of bollocks. ( at the poll, not the above poster :P)

[emma_goldman]

Oh, duh I forgot the link. Sorry. It's an MSNBC poll, not that I'm a fan, just found it humorous.

http://www.msnbc. msn.com/id/ 14602723/

There you go. Sorry!

[Phugebrins]

Ah, the gradual, but morbidly entertaining, process of rewriting history.

[Whitten]

Since the fights against communism and Nazism cant be compared, no modern war can be compared to both of them in the same fashion.

[ItalianCommie]

True. Just propaganda that goes through the head of the american yocal, mainly.

[Tekun]

Do you agree with President Bush when he likens Islamic fundamentalism with the struggle against Nazis and communists?


This coming from a guy (Bush) that supports the senseless bombing of innocent civilians in Lebanon :rolleyes:

No surprise that an imperialist would use threats from the past and historical events to justify a conflict against his self-created enemies

Funny how he "forgets" the role that "commies" played in defeating the Nazis

[Ceeker]

Hm. Well, erm...look on the bright side, maybe? Around 50% of the people on that poll have a working brain. So we're not totally doomed yet. *nods*

[OneBrickOneVoice]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2006, 11:31 AM
Funny how he "forgets" the role that "commies" played in defeating the Nazis
Word. 75% of German casualties were from Russians

[emma_goldman]

Originally posted by LeftyHenry+Sep 1 2006, 03:10 PM--> (LeftyHenry @ Sep 1 2006, 03:10 PM)
[email protected] 1 2006, 11:31 AM
Funny how he "forgets" the role that "commies" played in defeating the Nazis
Word. 75% of German casualties were from Russians [/b]
Great point. I say the Russians defeated the Germans. Period. We just got in it because Hitler threatened to invade the United States.

[emma_goldman]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2006, 12:47 PM
Hm. Well, erm...look on the bright side, maybe? Around 50% of the people on that poll have a working brain. So we're not totally doomed yet. *nods*
Well actually these are horribly inaccurate polls. I just thought the question was mildly humorous. They even note they're not scientific. :)

[piet11111]

Originally posted by LeftyHenry+Sep 1 2006, 03:10 PM--> (LeftyHenry @ Sep 1 2006, 03:10 PM)
[email protected] 1 2006, 11:31 AM
Funny how he "forgets" the role that "commies" played in defeating the Nazis
Word. 75% of German casualties were from Russians [/b]
one might even argue that without the ussr pushing the nazi's back D-Day might never have happened.
the only reason why the allieds decided to hurry up was because they feared the sovjets would be "liberating" all of continental europe.

[WUOrevolt]

Hmm, who was it again that did most of the fighting against the axis powers during WW2? Oh yeah, it was the Soviets and Chinese. Bush and his propoganda cant even stand up to even the least educated historian.

[The Grey Blur]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2006, 10:45 PM
Chinese
In what way?

[Phalanx]

Last time I checked, Japan was on the list of Axis powers.

It's clear that the Soviet Union and China were responsible for the defeat of the fascist forces.

The U.S. had 80% of its resources (personnel and equipment) directed at fighting Germany, while Germany used only 20% against America.

Although China played a major part in the war, I think the American Empire was more responsible for the defeat of the Japanese Empire.

[The Grey Blur]

Last time I checked, Japan was on the list of Axis powers.
Don't get your knickers in a twist, I was just curious


Although China played a major part in the war
It was always my understanding that the USSR and America went through China rather than the Chinese themselves offering resistance to Japanese Imperialism. Especially as China was at the time deeply divided between the Coms and Nats.

Any articles or Wikis relating to this topic?

[WUOrevolt]

Originally posted by Permanent [email protected] 2 2006, 03:12 AM
It was always my understanding that the USSR and America went through China rather than the Chinese themselves offering resistance to Japanese Imperialism. Especially as China was at the time deeply divided between the Coms and Nats.


There were instances of Mao's forces and the Nationalist forces working together in resistance againt the Japanese during this time.

[The Grey Blur]

Originally posted by WUOrevolt+Sep 1 2006, 11:32 PM--> (WUOrevolt @ Sep 1 2006, 11:32 PM)
Permanent [email protected] 2 2006, 03:12 AM
It was always my understanding that the USSR and America went through China rather than the Chinese themselves offering resistance to Japanese Imperialism. Especially as China was at the time deeply divided between the Coms and Nats.


There were instances of Mao's forces and the Nationalist forces working together in resistance againt the Japanese during this time. [/b]
And pretty soon they broke into internecine fighting again...

I think it's silly to try and compare the damage inflicted on the Axis powers by China to that of the USSR or even the USA

But this is way offtopic :lol:

[Clarksist]

Since the fights against communism and Nazism cant be compared, no modern war can be compared to both of them in the same fashion.

Is the police brutality and state censorship of communists war?

[Redmau5]

Islamism is indeed the "new communism". While obviously very different ideologically, they both serve the same purpose for America. That is the purpose of keeping the American war machine rolling. It was the threat of the Red invasion which allowed the US to spend billions on defense, and now the same thing is happening with the "War on Terror.

[Nathyn]

Originally posted by [email protected] 31 2006, 08:10 PM
These polls are stupid but I think this one is relevant.

The question is: Do you agree with President Bush when he likens Islamic fundamentalism with the struggle against Nazis and communists?

When I voted. 41% said yes! :lol:
LOL, of course not.

To salvage this thread: I'm an Atheist, yet I used to be offended by "Islamophobia." However, I had a 4-hour conversation about Islam with a Muslim about a week ago, and I've come to the conclusion that Jewish, Christian, and Islamic Fundamentalism are all virtually indistinguishable.

Terrorism must be dealt with, of course, but it has more to do with the poor economic conditions and belligerent American foreign policy than Islam. Also, to clarify: Bush doesn't slander Islam. On several occasions, he's said, for example, "Islam is a noble faith." His grassroots supporters, such as Ann Coulter, are undoubtedly bigoted, but he is not or at least it isn't expressed publicly.

[RevolutionaryMarxist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2006, 07:17 PM
Islamism is indeed the "new communism". While obviously very different ideologically, they both serve the same purpose for America. That is the purpose of keeping the American war machine rolling. It was the threat of the Red invasion which allowed the US to spend billions on defense, and now the same thing is happening with the "War on Terror.
Agreed - with the USSR it was always the next soviet leader in line that was criticized to death, and so far as we have seen in the US, once one enemy demi-god leader is burned by our holy-crusading-ultra-US-patriotic-military, a new one pops up!

Osama, Saddam, Zalqarwi, then these HEzbollah guys now and these Al Quade 2nd in commands, etc..