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Ander
28th August 2006, 02:28
My friend passed me a song called SS, SA Mix by DJ Adolf. I was listening to it and while the song is good, there are excerpts from speeches by Hitler mixed into it at some points. I went to Limewire and searched "DJ Adolf" and his songs have names such as "Heil Hitler" and "White Power."

My question is, even though the music sounds good, is it wrong for me to listen to this? I obviously don't support that shit but I really like the song. It's unfortunate that such a nice-sounding piece of music has been corrupted by evil Nazi shits.

The Grey Blur
28th August 2006, 04:11
HAHAHA You have the worst taste in music ever

Comrade J
28th August 2006, 04:30
Well just don't buy it, don't listen to it when other people can hear it and don't take what it says seriously :D
I don't see it as such a big deal myself, I like 3 or 4 Black Metal songs that have a bit of a National Socialist theme, but they're just downloaded and it's not like anyone can tell what they're saying anyway!

Also, if your friend passed along this song, is he a Nazi?

PaulMarsh
28th August 2006, 10:03
Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2006, 11:29 PM
My friend passed me a song called SS, SA Mix by DJ Adolf. I was listening to it and while the song is good, there are excerpts from speeches by Hitler mixed into it at some points. I went to Limewire and searched "DJ Adolf" and his songs have names such as "Heil Hitler" and "White Power."

My question is, even though the music sounds good, is it wrong for me to listen to this? I obviously don't support that shit but I really like the song. It's unfortunate that such a nice-sounding piece of music has been corrupted by evil Nazi shits.
I think the crucial thing is not to give the bastards any of your money.

Would be a change though if any of their stuff actually sounded good, usually it is dreadful (listen to the entire Skrewdriver back catalogue to illustrate my point!)

Black Dagger
28th August 2006, 14:51
Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2006, 09:29 AM
My friend passed me a song called SS, SA Mix by DJ Adolf. I was listening to it and while the song is good, there are excerpts from speeches by Hitler mixed into it at some points. I went to Limewire and searched "DJ Adolf" and his songs have names such as "Heil Hitler" and "White Power."

My question is, even though the music sounds good, is it wrong for me to listen to this? I obviously don't support that shit but I really like the song. It's unfortunate that such a nice-sounding piece of music has been corrupted by evil Nazi shits.
You still like the song even though it has excerpts of a Hitler speech in it? :unsure:

which doctor
28th August 2006, 14:56
I looked up this band on the internet and I stumbled upon a stormfront thread on it. It turns out even some of the fash think it's horrible techno.

Honggweilo
28th August 2006, 15:14
Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2006, 11:29 PM
My friend passed me a song called SS, SA Mix by DJ Adolf. I was listening to it and while the song is good, there are excerpts from speeches by Hitler mixed into it at some points. I went to Limewire and searched "DJ Adolf" and his songs have names such as "Heil Hitler" and "White Power."

My question is, even though the music sounds good, is it wrong for me to listen to this? I obviously don't support that shit but I really like the song. It's unfortunate that such a nice-sounding piece of music has been corrupted by evil Nazi shits.
Hahaha my brother has this track on his PC aswell. I was thinking of making a remix called "Dj Iozef KGB/CA Remix" :lol:

But Hardcore Techno (or just plain hardcore, not to be confused with hardcore punk) sux in general.... Its a mainly northwest european musical disturbing subgenre that originated from progressive techno/house (which wasnt at al rascist), right winged skinhead ska and punk, and even hiphop (go figure). Its affiliated alot with rascism and fascist activism, although it is not always.

celtopunk
28th August 2006, 16:15
Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2006, 11:29 PM
My friend passed me a song ...
My question is, even though the music sounds good, is it wrong for me to listen to this? I obviously don't support that shit but I really like the song. It's unfortunate that such a nice-sounding piece of music has been corrupted by evil Nazi shits.
You can't find any good sounding music without nazi themes?

Delete the shit and never listen to it again, find some good anti-fascist music and/or some good apolitical music

Friends don't let friends listen to nazi music.

somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback
28th August 2006, 17:10
Get a befriended DJ to make an Antifa remix of it.

C_Rasmussen
29th August 2006, 02:00
Neo-Nazi TECHNO????????

XD

I can't believe it.

Qwerty Dvorak
29th August 2006, 02:35
Another reason not to like techno.

Ander
29th August 2006, 02:40
Originally posted by Permanent [email protected] 27 2006, 10:12 PM
HAHAHA You have the worst taste in music ever
Why? Because techno is ONE of the genres of music I listen to?

Anyway, I ignore the Hitler parts and listen to the rest which I like. I'm not supporting this DJ Adolf fellow, I think he's an asshole who just happened to make a good song.

And no, my friend is not a Nazi. He got it from some Dutch kid.

MolotovLuv
29th August 2006, 05:45
There's plenty of good "techno" out there only I hate the word techno so I call it Psytrance, that doesn't have nazi shit in it. If I was listening to a good psytrance song and hitler's voice came out of nowwhere i'd probably throw my stereo out of my window, that's how much it would scare me. Hitler and music that you trip on just shouldn't be mixed :lol:

somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback
29th August 2006, 13:20
Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2006, 03:46 AM
There's plenty of good "techno" out there only I hate the word techno so I call it Psytrance, that doesn't have nazi shit in it. If I was listening to a good psytrance song and hitler's voice came out of nowwhere i'd probably throw my stereo out of my window, that's how much it would scare me. Hitler and music that you trip on just shouldn't be mixed :lol:
LOL?

Psytrance = Goa NOT Techno :rolleyes:

DM.
31st August 2006, 17:57
Originally posted by Jello+Aug 27 2006, 11:29 PM--> (Jello @ Aug 27 2006, 11:29 PM) My friend passed me a song called SS, SA Mix by DJ Adolf. I was listening to it and while the song is good, there are excerpts from speeches by Hitler mixed into it at some points. I went to Limewire and searched "DJ Adolf" and his songs have names such as "Heil Hitler" and "White Power."

My question is, even though the music sounds good, is it wrong for me to listen to this? I obviously don't support that shit but I really like the song. It's unfortunate that such a nice-sounding piece of music has been corrupted by evil Nazi shits. [/b]
Ok, i'm for several years into what's called here HardcoreTechno. From the topic title I thought this was just a discussion about right-wing influences in the genre, and I was gonna answer that the music is more important then the political ideas of the listeners, but in case of DJ Adolf it's different. DJ Adolf is nothing more than a kiddie who stole some existing hardcorebeats, put some racist samples in it and spread it all over the internet. To make this all worse, most of those tracks are put on limewire and such under the name of well known producers like for example DJ Neophyte.

Basicly the best thing to do is shift+delete those tracks from DJ Adolf. There's much better hardcore/techno stuff around, whitout those stupid racist samples or background.



ddxt301


But Hardcore Techno (or just plain hardcore, not to be confused with hardcore punk) sux in general.... Its a mainly northwest european musical disturbing subgenre that originated from progressive techno/house (which wasnt at al rascist), right winged skinhead ska and punk, and even hiphop (go figure). Its affiliated alot with rascism and fascist activism, although it is not always.

Not all what you're saying is completely true..
First of all, hardcore found it's origin in the old house and techno scene, but has noting to do with Ska, Punk and hiphop. It's a genre on its own with lots of subgenres.
Due the popularity in the mid 90s the scene attrackted lots of neonazi skinheads who liked the music because it was anti-social. This was one of the main reasons the scene collapsed in the late 90s and went more underground. During the years there were lots of anti-racism campains in the scene, to keep hardcore clear from politics and focus only on the music.
Unfortunatly the scene is coming more popular again and the mainstream genre attracks lots of right-winged kiddies, but luckely for us, the underground scene growed in quality and is almost completely political free. It's just for the music and nothing more.

Invader Zim
31st August 2006, 18:35
Originally posted by Black Dagger+Aug 28 2006, 12:52 PM--> (Black Dagger @ Aug 28 2006, 12:52 PM)
[email protected] 28 2006, 09:29 AM
My friend passed me a song called SS, SA Mix by DJ Adolf. I was listening to it and while the song is good, there are excerpts from speeches by Hitler mixed into it at some points. I went to Limewire and searched "DJ Adolf" and his songs have names such as "Heil Hitler" and "White Power."

My question is, even though the music sounds good, is it wrong for me to listen to this? I obviously don't support that shit but I really like the song. It's unfortunate that such a nice-sounding piece of music has been corrupted by evil Nazi shits.
You still like the song even though it has excerpts of a Hitler speech in it? :unsure: [/b]
The song 'yes' by the manic street preachers has a recording of a pimp 'selling' enslaved child prostetutes. despite the addition of this voice to the song, which adds it a great deal of atmosophere - which rather sets the tone for the entire album - and makes it one of the best songs on the album, which happens to be one of the classic rock albums of the past twenty five years.

Black Dagger
31st August 2006, 18:41
Originally posted by Invader Zim+Sep 1 2006, 01:36 AM--> (Invader Zim @ Sep 1 2006, 01:36 AM)
Originally posted by Black [email protected] 28 2006, 12:52 PM

[email protected] 28 2006, 09:29 AM
My friend passed me a song called SS, SA Mix by DJ Adolf. I was listening to it and while the song is good, there are excerpts from speeches by Hitler mixed into it at some points. I went to Limewire and searched "DJ Adolf" and his songs have names such as "Heil Hitler" and "White Power."

My question is, even though the music sounds good, is it wrong for me to listen to this? I obviously don't support that shit but I really like the song. It's unfortunate that such a nice-sounding piece of music has been corrupted by evil Nazi shits.
You still like the song even though it has excerpts of a Hitler speech in it? :unsure:
The song 'yes' by the manic street preachers has a recording of a pimp 'selling' enslaved child prostetutes. despite the addition of this voice to the song, which adds it a great deal of atmosophere - which rather sets the tone for the entire album - and makes it one of the best songs on the album, which happens to be one of the classic rock albums of the past twenty five years. [/b]
Do the manic street preachers support pimps who sell child prostitutes?

Forward Union
31st August 2006, 18:50
I like plenty of Nazi music, but as Paul said, don't ever give em a penny. Or a platform, don't play it in public or anything, and if you ever see it sold in a shop, campaign to get it removed.


Here is pretty much every Dj Adolf song there is,

http: //www.solargeneral.com/stream/music/dj%20adolf/

Enjoy :lol:

Black Dagger
31st August 2006, 18:53
Originally posted by Love [email protected] 1 2006, 01:51 AM
I like plenty of Nazi music,

Like?

Forward Union
1st September 2006, 13:55
Originally posted by Black Dagger+Aug 31 2006, 03:54 PM--> (Black Dagger @ Aug 31 2006, 03:54 PM)
Love [email protected] 1 2006, 01:51 AM
I like plenty of Nazi music,

Like? [/b]
Some Landser and Skrewdriver is quite funky, "Skinhead, Skinhead" "anti-social" and "before the night falls" are, in my opinion good songs. Though some of the lyrics leave a lot to be desired - with landser it's not a problem, most of their songs are in German so I don't have a clue what they're saying.

Invader Zim
1st September 2006, 14:25
Originally posted by Black Dagger+Aug 31 2006, 04:42 PM--> (Black Dagger @ Aug 31 2006, 04:42 PM)
Originally posted by Invader [email protected] 1 2006, 01:36 AM

Originally posted by Black [email protected] 28 2006, 12:52 PM

[email protected] 28 2006, 09:29 AM
My friend passed me a song called SS, SA Mix by DJ Adolf. I was listening to it and while the song is good, there are excerpts from speeches by Hitler mixed into it at some points. I went to Limewire and searched "DJ Adolf" and his songs have names such as "Heil Hitler" and "White Power."

My question is, even though the music sounds good, is it wrong for me to listen to this? I obviously don't support that shit but I really like the song. It's unfortunate that such a nice-sounding piece of music has been corrupted by evil Nazi shits.
You still like the song even though it has excerpts of a Hitler speech in it? :unsure:
The song 'yes' by the manic street preachers has a recording of a pimp 'selling' enslaved child prostetutes. despite the addition of this voice to the song, which adds it a great deal of atmosophere - which rather sets the tone for the entire album - and makes it one of the best songs on the album, which happens to be one of the classic rock albums of the past twenty five years.
Do the manic street preachers support pimps who sell child prostitutes? [/b]
I would not have thought so; however that was not my point, your point or anyone elses point. The point was that the addition of the voices of unpleasant individuals to a piece of music does not necessaily make the music bad.

As for this specific example, I think its bloody hilarious.

Ceeker
1st September 2006, 17:49
Originally posted by Love Underground+Sep 1 2006, 10:56 AM--> (Love Underground @ Sep 1 2006, 10:56 AM)
Black [email protected] 31 2006, 03:54 PM
"Skinhead, Skinhead" [/b]
That's actually a Cock Sparrer song (called Romper Stomper Skinhead), and is meant to be ironic.

Tommy-K
1st September 2006, 19:07
Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2006, 11:01 PM
Neo-Nazi TECHNO????????

XD

I can't believe it.
Pretty much my reaction aswell! :P

Listen to it if you want (though WHY you would want to listen to Neo-Nazi Techno is beyond belief) but please don't start drawing inspiration from it! :P

Forward Union
1st September 2006, 19:56
Originally posted by Ceeker+Sep 1 2006, 02:50 PM--> (Ceeker @ Sep 1 2006, 02:50 PM)
Originally posted by Love [email protected] 1 2006, 10:56 AM

Black [email protected] 31 2006, 03:54 PM
"Skinhead, Skinhead"
That's actually a Cock Sparrer song (called Romper Stomper Skinhead), and is meant to be ironic. [/b]
oh, well, Skrewdriver covered it :huh:

Mujer Libre
2nd September 2006, 04:14
Originally posted by Love Underground+Sep 1 2006, 04:57 PM--> (Love Underground @ Sep 1 2006, 04:57 PM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2006, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by Love [email protected] 1 2006, 10:56 AM

Black [email protected] 31 2006, 03:54 PM
"Skinhead, Skinhead"
That's actually a Cock Sparrer song (called Romper Stomper Skinhead), and is meant to be ironic.
oh, well, Skrewdriver covered it :huh: [/b]
Once again proving how dumb Nazis are? :P

Forward Union
2nd September 2006, 13:21
Originally posted by Mujer [email protected] 2 2006, 01:15 AM
Once again proving how dumb Nazis are? :P
Well if you cover a song with lysrics like "Waiting in the lane-way, waiting for the scum, Smash their yellow faces, kick their fucking bums"

then you have to be pretty dumb :lol:

By the way, you can hear it here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4WvBzHetbU)

Black Dagger
2nd September 2006, 13:43
Originally posted by enigma
I would not have thought so; however that was not my point, your point or anyone elses point. The point was that the addition of the voices of unpleasant individuals to a piece of music does not necessaily make the music bad.


That's not my point.

It's not that there are 'voices of unpleasant individuals' in the song, it's that this song specifically, is produced by a nazi, and includes hitler ranting nazi nonsense.

edit: Either way, i don't really give a fuck, so let's stop arguing ok? :)

Ceeker
2nd September 2006, 16:10
Originally posted by Love Underground+Sep 2 2006, 10:22 AM--> (Love Underground @ Sep 2 2006, 10:22 AM)
Mujer [email protected] 2 2006, 01:15 AM
Once again proving how dumb Nazis are? :P
Well if you cover a song with lysrics like "Waiting in the lane-way, waiting for the scum, Smash their yellow faces, kick their fucking bums"

then you have to be pretty dumb :lol:

By the way, you can hear it here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4WvBzHetbU) [/b]
You know, I just may be misinformed.

The lyrics are in the script of the movie Romper Stomper:

http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts...ript-crowe.html (http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/r/romper-stomper-script-transcript-crowe.html)

And I can no longer find any reference to Cock Sparrer having done it , but I still doubt it was Skrewdriver. Does it appear on any of their albums?

Anyway. Cock Sparrer are an oi! skinhead band much like Skrewdriver in sound, but minus the racism and bullshit. (Not all skinheads are racist. Racist skinheads are referred to as boneheads by other Oi! punks. Though I never got around to shaving my head. :P)

Ander
2nd September 2006, 18:07
Skrewdriver began as simply an Oi! group but then became racist later on. In the beginning they weren't racists.

Forward Union
2nd September 2006, 19:31
Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2006, 01:11 PM
And I can no longer find any reference to Cock Sparrer having done it , but I still doubt it was Skrewdriver. Does it appear on any of their albums?

Anyway. Cock Sparrer are an oi! skinhead band much like Skrewdriver in sound, but minus the racism and bullshit. (Not all skinheads are racist. Racist skinheads are referred to as boneheads by other Oi! punks. Though I never got around to shaving my head. :P)
Boots & Braces, I think. Im not sure, most sites seem to think it's a Skrewdriver song.

http://www.lyricsdownload.com/skrewdriver-...ead-lyrics.html (http://www.lyricsdownload.com/skrewdriver-skinhead-lyrics.html)