Class Valedictorian praises Jesus and God

[R_P_A_S]

so i was channel surfing and seen that old hag pat robertson on tv talking his garbage as usual. I kept the channel there because i get good laughs hearing this idiot. they showed a segment about a girl who started to preach to her graduating class about how Jesus and God help her be the valedictorian and all this shit. the school suddenly pull the plug on her speech. and guess what? yep she is sueing! surprice surprice. what do you guys think about this? here is the link

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/usnews/060822a.aspx (http://http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/usnews/060822a.aspx)

[YSR]

Having recently been a speaker at my class graduation, I would have stood up and shouted her down.

Or maybe just let it happen and ignored it, depending on my mood.

That's the thing though: the school can never really "enforce" its rules effectively. We as leftists can never allow instutitions to make rules to make things "fair". They can't be trusted to enforce them, and moreover, it's our responsibility to step up, not trust the State to act on our behalf.

[R_P_A_S]

i dont care either if she feels god and jesus helped her get good grades or whatever. but the part of her speech when she started saying something like "if we all let god into our hearts you can be like me" not really like that word for word. But you know what I mean. she started preeching people. I didnt come to church I came to a damn graduation. save it

[TC]

She should have her diploma revoked for cheating if God really did give her assistance in her exams...so she can choose between not graduating and renouncing her claim :-p.

[bezdomni]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2006, 05:08 PM
She should have her diploma revoked for cheating if God really did give her assistance in her exams...so she can choose between not graduating and renouncing her claim :-p.
:lol:


It is unconstitutional (in the US) to talk about religion in your graduation speech.

[eyeswideopen]

How is it unconstitutional to talk about your religion at your graduation speech if FREEDOM OF speech is constitutional? and furthermore, the constitution allows the freedom of religion.

[LSD]

How is it unconstitutional to talk about your religion at your graduation speech if FREEDOM OF speech is constitutional?

Freedom of speech with regards to public school children is a somewhat complicated issue in the US. Because students are forced to attend classes (or graduation), they are also forced to hear whatever religous speech might be spoken.

In an effort to "seperate church and state", US courts have ruled that school functions must be entirely secular.

[Eleutherios]

So Jesus is personally responsible for intervening on her behalf and ensuring that all the other children (many of whom are probably devout Christians) at that school didn't become valedictorians? What a pompous *****.

[eyeswideopen]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2006, 05:38 PM
So Jesus is personally responsible for intervening on her behalf and ensuring that all the other children (many of whom are probably devout Christians) at that school didn't become valedictorians? What a pompous *****.
No, that's not what she means at all, she means that her goal was to be valedictorian, and she got it throught the help of God and Jesus, because they helped her with her struggles, not necessarily meaning with her study.

[bezdomni]

No, that's not what she means at all, she means that her goal was to be valedictorian, and she got it throught the help of God and Jesus, because they helped her with her struggles, not necessarily meaning with her study.
Correction, she thinks Jesus and god helped her become valedictorian.

[The Rover]

She should technically be allowed to say it. However, one should have more tact and not do the whole god and Jesus thing if there are people who might be offended. Save it for the orange crate on the street corner. Although it will be hard to believe then.....

[bezdomni]

Originally posted by The [email protected] 24 2006, 03:08 AM
She should technically be allowed to say it. However, one should have more tact and not do the whole god and Jesus thing if there are people who might be offended. Save it for the orange crate on the street corner. Although it will be hard to believe then.....
No, she shouldn't be. Since people of various religious beliefs are present at the graduation ceremony and are required to be there, she cannot talk about religion because it is public property.

Anyway, it is unnecessary and plain disrespectful to talk about religion in your valedictorian speech. I sure as well wouldn't go up to give a speech and say GOD DOESN'T EXIST, because it is unnecessary and it would just be rude. If I wanted to hear a bunch of bullshit about god, I'd go to church.

Keep religion out of the schools.

[The Rover]

Originally posted by SovietPants+Aug 24 2006, 03:13 AM--> (SovietPants @ Aug 24 2006, 03:13 AM)
The [email protected] 24 2006, 03:08 AM
She should technically be allowed to say it. However, one should have more tact and not do the whole god and Jesus thing if there are people who might be offended. Save it for the orange crate on the street corner. Although it will be hard to believe then.....
No, she shouldn't be. Since people of various religious beliefs are present at the graduation ceremony and are required to be there, she cannot talk about religion because it is public property.

Anyway, it is unnecessary and plain disrespectful to talk about religion in your valedictorian speech. I sure as well wouldn't go up to give a speech and say GOD DOESN'T EXIST, because it is unnecessary and it would just be rude. If I wanted to hear a bunch of bullshit about god, I'd go to church.

Keep religion out of the schools. [/b]
True, very true.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Someone should have pied her.

[bezdomni]

Originally posted by Compañ[email protected] 24 2006, 03:53 AM
Someone should have pied her.
Ah. A man of my own heart. ;)

[R_P_A_S]

like I mentioned before. this was a news featured on that Pat Robertson show the 700 club or whatever. MY QUESTION IS THIS MR. ROBERTSON! since you are defending this girl's freedom of speech. WHAT IF A MUSLIM STUDENT did the same thing but instead he or she praised Allah? HUH?

would that be OK?

i think not. fuck a christian named pat roberson

[Rawthentic]

What goddam freaks! People here at my school are almost encouraged to openly advocate Christianity. I have a teacher who has business cards from her church advocating Jesus and saying that he died on the cross and shit. But if I advocated communism, I'b probably get suspended. And I go to a public school too.

[Raisa]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2006, 04:28 PM
so i was channel surfing and seen that old hag pat robertson on tv talking his garbage as usual. I kept the channel there because i get good laughs hearing this idiot. they showed a segment about a girl who started to preach to her graduating class about how Jesus and God help her be the valedictorian and all this shit. the school suddenly pull the plug on her speech. and guess what? yep she is sueing! surprice surprice. what do you guys think about this? here is the link

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/usnews/060822a.aspx (http://http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/usnews/060822a.aspx)
I hope she gets her damn money.

It was her speech. She believes in Jesus.
I dont see Jesus as god, but still, the school system aint shit unless youre white and middle class.
And no matter what this girl is, I hope she gets some good ass money suing the school!

[Ian]

I hope she loses and is made to pay court expenses for being a stupid preacher

[bloody_capitalist_sham]

Yeah lets hope she loses the case, and then loses her faith too. that'll teach her :angry:

[RedAnarchist]

I wonder how the rest of the students listening to her reacted?