Log in

View Full Version : Holding Children Against Their Will - sick and sad



truthaddict11
7th July 2003, 02:39
http://www.wiretapmag.org/story.html?StoryID=16151


Just Call Them Crazy
Stevphen Shukaitis, WireTap
June 12, 2003

Alex Asch probably never thought he would be forced by police, private security, his parents, and the weight of the law to leave his choice of studies for a Mormon boot camp -- but on August 10, 2002 that's exactly what happened.


Alex was attending the Institute for Social Ecology, a radically inclined institution of higher education located in Plainfield, Vermont. It was the last day of summer classes when his parents hired two juvenile transport officers to remove him from the Institute. After removing him from the school he was forced to go to Turnabout Stillwater, a juvenile rehabilitation program located in Utah affiliated with the Mormon church. There he will be held against his will until his 18th birthday in June 2004.


Youth activists and organizers have long been marginalized and ignored by their parents, teachers and lawmakers. Even when youth activism is accepted it is usually in a condescending or patronizing manner when older and more experienced organizers run and co-opt youth efforts. But for organizers like Alex the threat is much more explicit: Just call them crazy, drug them, coerce them, and keep them locked up.


Alex was officially diagnosed with "Oppositional Defiance Disorder," which is defined as a disorder including symptoms such as often losing one's temper, arguing with adults, actively defying or refusing to comply with adults' requests, deliberately annoying people, blaming others for mistakes, being touchy or easily annoyed, and often being spiteful, vindictive, or angry. In a workshop during the National Conference on Organized Resistance in January it was joked several times that with a definition like that almost all those with radical and anti-authoritarian beliefs could be labeled as "disordered."


"Who defines what is disordered behavior?" asked Diane Krauthamer, one of Alex's friends who was at the ISE when he was taken. "ODD is a just a construction of this truly disordered society. [People in positions of] authority make up disorders like ODD to explain the reactions of people like Alex to the squelching of freedom that is imposed on us."


"What is most disturbing to me about ODD and other 'disorders' is that there is no real attempt to ascertain the environmental picture -- the social, political, and economic factors that drive a person's behavior," said Leah Harris, a progressive psychiatrist from Washington DC. "We're asking the wrong questions -- we shouldn't be asking, 'does this kid have a disease called ODD?' but 'why is this kid so at odds with his or her society?'"


Since being taken to Turnabout Stillwater it has been difficult to maintain communication with Alex due to the monitoring of his mail for materials deemed "inappropriate" by staff. In one of the letters he was able to send out he indicated that he had not seen the world outside of the camp for more than fifty days. He wrote that he has tremendous difficulty being able to even think under the circumstances and that he concentrates on his memories, friendships, and beliefs to ward off the "frightening miserable emotional state being brought upon me within my present situation." He often writes about the psychological fascism employed to "correct" his behavior and beliefs, and he says he is determined to resist being converted.


While at the Institute for Social Ecology Alex enthusiastically studied topics such as animal liberation, radical environmentalism, philosophical anarchism, linguistics, sexuality, dialectical philosophy, and countercultural movements. While living in New Jersey he had been involved in organizing around environmental and animal liberation issues. He also was helping to build a democratic economy by working with Ever Reviled Records, a worker-owned label releasing progressive and radical music.


"To the dismay of his parents, Alex's life was going down a path that was different from their old and obsolete values," said Darren Kramer of Ever Reviled Records after finding out what happened to Alex. "Alex's parents would use whatever means they had at their disposal to try to coerce him into adopting their values. They sent him to school psychiatrists, prescribed him sedative drugs, and put him in special programs -- all against his will."


Sadly, because Alex was 16 years old at the time of his removal from ISE he has virtually no rights and no control over what happens to him. In the eyes of the law Alex's fate is the hands of his parents, who through their social position can use psychiatry, school counselors, the courts and the law to treat him as an object to be molded.



Psychiatry has often played a key role in the marginalization and control of "social undesireables" or "deviants" throughout history.




Leah said that she could not tell if there has been a measurable increase in the use of psychiatry to repress activists, but she pointed out that psychiatry has often played a key role in the marginalization and control of "social undesireables" or "deviants" throughout history -- from political activists to queers and transgendered people. Some of the most compelling examples of psychiatry being used against activists include Leonard Roy Frank, who went on to found the anti-psychiatry movement, and Daphne Scholinski, who was forced to wear dresses and feather boas as part of her "gender correction treatment."


Alex is like many youth activists who have fought to maintain their ideals in the midst of a society that is designed to restrict them. As Alex's friend and ISE classmate Diane Krauthamer put it: "Teachers, parents, and government officials often regard [young] people who refuse to submit to their authority as annoying and dysfunctional because we demand freedom every time they deny it

bluerev002
7th July 2003, 03:07
That is just sad. the Goverment is using any excuse to lock up anybody that they might consider dangerous. If this keeps up what makes any of us safe? what makes ANYBODY that wants to make a change or is the least bit defiant.

Is there any way tath we may fight for Alex's freedom or the future actions of locking ppl up for "ODD"?

CubanFox
7th July 2003, 03:10
That's disgusting. I mean, it was bad enough to send him to some camp. But a Mormon one? It sounds like a neopuritanical reeducation centre!

Iwannaarevolt
7th July 2003, 03:27
That is naueating. the fact that it is even legal (no surpirse though) is horrible. People today seem to forget that children are people to and he's not even a child anymore. I just wonder what he's gonna be like when he gets out...

Blackberry
7th July 2003, 03:32
Reading that article makes me want to smash the heads of those involved in his imprisonment.

Oops, I have ODD.

Friederich Engels
7th July 2003, 05:25
that is very sick yes. they should put a stop to this abuse, but you no, the youth is never heard.

mentalbunny
7th July 2003, 12:25
What we really need is the psychiatrists of America to put down better criteria for ODD, if it exists at all, so that people like Alex will be safe from this misdiagnosis (that the right word?). Or alternatively there could be a big protest across the region/country and students can show their solidarity with those held against their will. It has to be made clear that we are our own people and that we can make decisions for ourselves, we will not be who other people want us to be, we will be ourselves and do what we consider to be right. Just because the older generations have been hoodwinked doesn't mean that wee will be.

redstar2000
7th July 2003, 15:36
From time to time there are posts on this board from frustrated people who "want to do something right now" of a "militant" nature, like go fight in somebody's guerrilla war, or something like that.

Here is something half a dozen or a dozen young Americans could do: break kids out of those boot camp gulags!

Sometimes, they murder kids in those places...so leave your "non-violence" in the glove compartment.

And when you get all the kids out, burn those fucking shitholes to the ground. (Optional: ask the kids if any of the guards were sadists--if the answer is yes, give them a beating that will cripple them for life.)

You don't have to go to Cuba to "live like Che".

:cool:

mentalbunny
7th July 2003, 17:35
Well I can't do anything from here, it's up to the american teens now.

Blackberry
8th July 2003, 07:41
I'm going to show it to my psychology teacher when I go back to school next week. It goes in line of what we were discussing - what should or shouldn't be allowed in psychological experiments.

I have a feeling she will actually show it to the whole class. She's fairly progressive.

truthaddict11
8th July 2003, 14:56
"ODD" seems just like being a teenager to me.

CompadreGuerrillera
8th July 2003, 19:39
my first reaction was "I want to be diagnosed with ODD"!

this society is trying to restrict dissent in all means possible, they have already proven this( by grouping peace-protesters as some sort of terrorist) , but now with a psychological disorder! this is hallarius as hell, they really dont know what the fuck theyre doing do they? You do not supress resistance by suppressing it, the system needs to understand that well resist no matter what, it CANT stop us! thats the thing.

Remember the Nazis made ppl who were jews wear blue triangles, to tag them.
I dont know exactly where, but some country decided that almost all the ppl there would wear em to look like jews, as a form of protest, that is why i want to be diagnosed with "ODD"

Sabocat
9th July 2003, 00:11
Quote: from redstar2000 on 10:36 am on July 7, 2003
From time to time there are posts on this board from frustrated people who "want to do something right now" of a "militant" nature, like go fight in somebody's guerrilla war, or something like that.

Here is something half a dozen or a dozen young Americans could do: break kids out of those boot camp gulags!

Sometimes, they murder kids in those places...so leave your "non-violence" in the glove compartment.

And when you get all the kids out, burn those fucking shitholes to the ground. (Optional: ask the kids if any of the guards were sadists--if the answer is yes, give them a beating that will cripple them for life.)

You don't have to go to Cuba to "live like Che".

:cool:



I agree. How hard can it be to break some kids out of a Mormon indoctrination camp?

Has Alex stated that he wants to be freed from his internment?

This certainly seems like a just cause and a call to action.

Here's the website link to this pious righteous shithole.

http://www.turnaboutteens.org/turnabout.html

(Edited by Disgustapated at 7:15 pm on July 8, 2003)

Iron Star
9th July 2003, 02:26
the mormons are the worst with this type of stuff. i know, i have several relatives that reside in salt lake city and that happen to be mormons. they're religious fascists to the extreme. did you know that even if a woman is forcefully raped the mormon church will still consdier her 'uchaste' and thus 'impure'? she'll be barred from entering the so called 'celestial kingdom' even though the sexual act was committed against her will. these people are sick.

if i were closer to him id be willing to participate in any plans for his escape

Vinny Rafarino
9th July 2003, 22:49
Quote: from redstar2000 on 3:36 pm on July 7, 2003
From time to time there are posts on this board from frustrated people who "want to do something right now" of a "militant" nature, like go fight in somebody's guerrilla war, or something like that.

Fuck yeah Redstar. This type of imprisonments happens all over the country at an alarming rate. These kids will sometime suffer severe mental trauma that could possible last the rest of their lives. Break in, Break 'em out and burn the joint to fucking cinders.
Here is something half a dozen or a dozen young Americans could do: break kids out of those boot camp gulags!

Sometimes, they murder kids in those places...so leave your "non-violence" in the glove compartment.

And when you get all the kids out, burn those fucking shitholes to the ground. (Optional: ask the kids if any of the guards were sadists--if the answer is yes, give them a beating that will cripple them for life.)

You don't have to go to Cuba to "live like Che".

:cool:

Reuben
10th July 2003, 10:33
Quote: from CompadreGuerrillera on 7:39 pm on July 8, 2003
my first reaction was "I want to be diagnosed with ODD"!

this society is trying to restrict dissent in all means possible, they have already proven this( by grouping peace-protesters as some sort of terrorist) , but now with a psychological disorder! this is hallarius as hell, they really dont know what the fuck theyre doing do they? You do not supress resistance by suppressing it, the system needs to understand that well resist no matter what, it CANT stop us! thats the thing.

Remember the Nazis made ppl who were jews wear blue triangles, to tag them.
I dont know exactly where, but some country decided that almost all the ppl there would wear em to look like jews, as a form of protest, that is why i want to be diagnosed with "ODD"


That was denmark.