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Hampton
5th July 2003, 18:03
Britons face US tribunal
By Hugh Dougherty, Evening Standard
4 July 2003

A London man and another Briton face execution after being named as the first Guantanamo Bay prisoners to face trial by secret military tribunal.

Feroz Abbasi, a former student from Croydon, and Birmingham father-of-four Moazzam Begg are among six Camp Delta detainees who will be first to go before the controversial hearings.

Today the US government was facing a storm of protest. The men's defence lawyer will be appointed by the Pentagon, which also controls the judge and the prosecution, and evidence will be heard largely in secret.

http://www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/...ning%20Standard (http://www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/5603399?source=Evening%20Standard)

July 05, 2003
Lawyers furious as US builds death chambers
By Frances Gibb and Tim Reid

LAWYERS expressed outrage yesterday at plans to put al-Qaeda suspects, including two Britons and an Australian, on military trial in Guantanamo Bay. They would effectively be tried by a kangaroo court, stripped of all basic rights of due process that would be afforded in criminal courts in Britain or America, they said.

No charges have yet been levelled against Moazzem Begg from Birmingham or Feroz Abbasi from Croydon, although Pentagon lawyers are finalising the wording of the indictments.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-...-735449,00.html (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-735449,00.html)

Socialsmo o Muerte
6th July 2003, 18:43
It's ridiculous mate.

The judge is military, the jury is military, the solicitors for both defence and prosecution are military.

I heard a report of one guy saying how he hadn't seen the sky for a year whilst being at Guantanamo Bay.

I mean, if the guys are guilty, then so be it, but the way the process goes is sickening. It's amazing that the oh so peaceful and correct UN have not done anything about this.

Anti-Islamism at it's finest I feel.

TXsocialist
6th July 2003, 19:00
frikin crazy

Hampton
6th July 2003, 19:59
Confess or die, US tells jailed Britons.
Martin Bright, Kamal Ahmed and Peter Beaumont
Sunday July 6, 2003
The Observer

The two British terrorist suspects facing a secret US military tribunal in Guantanamo Bay will be given a choice: plead guilty and accept a 20-year prison sentence, or be executed if found guilty.

American legal sources close to the process said that the prisoners' dilemma was intended to encourage maximum 'co-operation'.

The news comes as Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, prepares to urge US Secretary of State Colin Powell to repatriate the two Britons. He will say that they should face a fair trial here under English law. Backed by Home Secretary David Blunkett, Straw will make it clear that the Government opposes the death penalty and wants to see both men tried 'under normal judicial process'.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/internation...,992467,00.html (http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,992467,00.html)

(Edited by Hampton at 3:00 pm on July 7, 2003)

Socialsmo o Muerte
6th July 2003, 20:02
Don't think anyone needs to respond to that.

mentalbunny
7th July 2003, 12:39
I'm not certain on this info cos i don't remember it very weell and it came form my dad but apparently there were some guys from Pakistan (might be somewhere else) in Guatanamo bay, but they got sent home after a little "diplomacy". Yet the Brits are everyone else is still there having their human rights abused!