Capitalist-Speak

[Communism And Freedom]

When debating with capitalists, does anyone notice how capitalists have a tendancy to use generic terms with populistic appeal, but with pre-determined specific meanings to frame their arguments and make them sound more desireable?

List some of the hegemonic terms and phrases you've encountered when debating with capitalists. I'll go first:

Capitalist-Speak:

Freedom: Privatized ownership of the means of production; absolute protection of private property.

Democracy: Capitalist class-owned/controlled republicanism (representative democracy).

Based on principles: Classic liberal ideals of private property, lassiez-faire market capitalism, republicanism and constitutional federalism.

Market Freedom: Private ownership with minimal state regulation of the ownership class.

Spreading Democracy: Using imperialistic tactics to spread Western bourgeois liberal democracy and capitalism.

Lifting out of poverty: When private companies create a bunch of jobs regardless of the quality of the job.

Big Government: Government attempting to restrict the exploitation of private owners.

Big Business: When liberals (progressives) use this word, they mean multinational globalist corporations, but aren't opposed to what they think of as "friendly" and "fair" large and medium private businesses.

Totalitarian: When there is a society which operate on ideals that differ from theirs; sometimes used as an exaggeration of authoritarian states that run on different ideas than theirs.

Economy is growing: GDP is rising and more private businesses are opening or getting richer; doesn't take human condition, cost of living, wages and socio-economic structure into consideration.

[Orange Juche]

This is something I've noticed quite frequently.

Language is very powerful. And when it is manipulated, is used quite easily as a form of thought and idea control.

[Dyst]

Communism: Advocacy of a society where everyone must be equal, a large dictatorship-like state is in control and ordinary people have nothing to say.

Riot: An act similar to theft, murder, rape, etc. without any possibility of real intent or purpose behind it whatsoever, just people acting out of selfishness causing chaos and terror.

EDIT: Oh, sorry, think maybe I misunderstood you abit. The above is just capitalist definitions of words.

[LoneRed]

to the original poster, ya it is a type of doublespeak, its how the masses stay so comfortable without fearing or rioting


Max

[Rawthentic]

And this is why we are here: to reveal the truth. They can't keep it from the people forever.

[Clarksist]

Revolution - a scary chaotic time of mass murder and rapings.

Government - the thing that keeps us all safe.

Global Warming - pagan myth.

[Delta]

Anarchist (from Urban Dictionary (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=anarchist))-Obnoxious 12 year old whose primary reading material is totse.com, wears shitty scream metal t-shirts or hooded sweatshirts bearing the ever-so-rebellious "anarchy" symbol, and fantasizes about gunpowder and pipe bombs while masturbating. Usually very short-tempered, this being a direct result of their unbelievably cruel upbringing as a scrawny, middle-class white kid in the suburbs.

Example: My parents make me take out the garbage, so I will rebel against their oppressive ways by skateboarding and carving my name into the walls of a bus-shack.

[Communism And Freedom]

^Ugh, Urban Dictionary. Don't remind me. The ignorance on that site is enough to make a person want to scream. :wacko: That site almost made me lose faith in hope for humanity. :lol:

[Marxist_Fire]

I've encountered some more terms in discussions I've had with capitalists.

Property Rights - the right of companies and rich people to exclude others from use of a resource, no matter how much that resource may be needed by the rest of society

Statism - the slightest intervention of government in the economy

Individual Rights/Liberty/Freedom - allowing capitalists to freely exploit people

Collectivist - anyone who things that there is something wrong with unbridled greed

[RevolutionaryMarxist]

When debating with capitalists, does anyone notice how capitalists have a tendancy to use generic terms with populistic appeal, but with pre-determined specific meanings to frame their arguments and make them sound more desireable?

This is not just limited to Capitalists - all Idealists or people who use Idealism as a propaganda too do this - When I debate with Christians, they always spill the bs about "Jesus dying for our sins", "Don't you believe in a Higher Being", "Nothingness", "I will save you"...etc.

Its common, just depends who is able to do it the best. :)

[Phugebrins]

You forget that many of these words have more than one meaning, depending on whom they're referring to.

"Government - the thing that keeps us all safe."
But also
2. Bloated inefficient bureaucacy bent on nannying the right-thinking and coddling the lazy.

Communist 1. lazy but envious good-for-nothing who attempts to secure a comfortable lifestyle entirely by taxing the hard-earned income of his betters. 2. Subversive agent of or apologist for foreign powers who will stop at nothing in his unremitting efforts to destroy Democracy ™

Anarchist 1. Angsty but pathetic teenager who resents authority, takes drugs and sometimes has the energy to rant. 2. Dangerous threat to our society and children intent only on spreading violence

Revolution 1. "a scary chaotic time of mass murder and rapings" 2. American ~, Orange ~, Fight for freedom ™ from oppressors, democracy, and generally wholesome noble values.

[MrDoom]

Ever notice that when the capitalists are in control, it's a democracy, but when the workers are in control, it's a proletarian dictatorship?

[Phugebrins]

Thing is, the phrase wasn't coined by capitalists. It was Marx brandishing the political equivalent of 'Kick me'.

[Janus]

Rhetoric is very important in attracting people's attentions and gaining their support.