You all beleive in freedom?

[I love Kylie]

And yet what is socialism but compulsion?

If someone is poor, you force someone else to provide for them.
If someone is homelss, you force someone ELSE to build a house for them.
If someone is stupid, you FORCE someone ELSE to open their wallets to them.
If someone is weak, you FORCE someone ELSE to suffer in their place.

And you have the audacity to talk of 'freedom'. You all make my stomach turn.

[RevSouth]

Originally posted by I love [email protected] 12 2006, 10:04 AM
And yet what is socialism but compulsion?

If someone is poor, you force someone else to provide for them.
If someone is homelss, you force someone ELSE to build a house for them.
If someone is stupid, you FORCE someone ELSE to open their wallets to them.
If someone is weak, you FORCE someone ELSE to suffer in their place.

And you have the audacity to talk of 'freedom'. You all make my stomach turn.
YOur sick.

So freedom from worrying where your next meal comes from, where you'll spend the night, if you'll be able to provide for your family, those aren't freedoms? If they aren't I don't know what is.

[RaiseYourVoice]

we do?

i could start:

If someone exploits there fellow people you look away
If someone cant exploit others he will be exploited by you

or i could even start a discussion with you... but ffs this has been discussed so often we should really think about closing this section of the board it gets boring...

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

Originally posted by I love [email protected] 12 2006, 04:04 PM
If someone is poor, you force someone else to provide for them.
:o We do?


If someone is homelss, you force someone ELSE to build a house for them.
:o We do?


If someone is stupid, you FORCE someone ELSE to open their wallets to them.
:o We do?


If someone is weak, you FORCE someone ELSE to suffer in their place.
:o We do?


And you have the audacity to talk of 'freedom'. You all make my stomach turn.
:o We do?

[Ander]

Hey everyone, I Love Kylie is completely right. Don't you remember page 26 of the Communist Manifesto?


Originally posted by Karl Marx
If someone is poor, you force someone else to provide for them.
If someone is homeless, you force someone ELSE to build a house for them.
If someone is stupid, you FORCE someone ELSE to open their wallets to them.
If someone is weak, you FORCE someone ELSE to suffer in their place.

Damn. Ok fuck it, I'm giving up socialism.

FREE MARKET CAPITALISM HERE I COME! TIME TO EXPLOIT SOME WORKERS!! :D

[YSR]

Originally posted by Jello+Aug 12 2006, 04:38 PM--> (Jello @ Aug 12 2006, 04:38 PM)
Hey everyone, I Love Kylie is completely right. Don't you remember page 26 of the Communist Manifesto?


Karl Marx
If someone is poor, you force someone else to provide for them.
If someone is homeless, you force someone ELSE to build a house for them.
If someone is stupid, you FORCE someone ELSE to open their wallets to them.
If someone is weak, you FORCE someone ELSE to suffer in their place.

Damn. Ok fuck it, I'm giving up socialism.

FREE MARKET CAPITALISM HERE I COME! TIME TO EXPLOIT SOME WORKERS!! :D[/b]
It's right in there.

[loveme4whoiam]

Originally posted by Jello+Aug 12 2006, 04:38 PM--> (Jello @ Aug 12 2006, 04:38 PM) Hey everyone, I Love Kylie is completely right. Don't you remember page 26 of the Communist Manifesto?


Karl Marx
If someone is poor, you force someone else to provide for them.
If someone is homeless, you force someone ELSE to build a house for them.
If someone is stupid, you FORCE someone ELSE to open their wallets to them.
If someone is weak, you FORCE someone ELSE to suffer in their place.

Damn. Ok fuck it, I'm giving up socialism.

FREE MARKET CAPITALISM HERE I COME! TIME TO EXPLOIT SOME WORKERS!! :D [/b]
LMAO :lol:

[Delta]

Libertarianism is incompatible with capitalism. The freedom that everyday libertarian capitalists cherish is the freedom of the slave owner. People will say "but the slave owner keeps his slaves by force, whereas in capitalism people agree to work". I don't think that is the proper way to look at it. A slave owner gets the benefit of his slave's output by force. But why is force effective? Well, the slave doesn't want bodily injury or death. Similarly, people are forced to give their labor to the capitalist because if they don't, they will die (as they have no means of production of their own). Sure, they can choose which capitalist to work for in many cases, but the outcome is the same-the selling of their labor for the profit of the one who had the deed to the land. Slavery and capitalism are even more equivalent in 3rd world countries, where the master (owner) gets the labor of the slaves (workers) and only has to feed them (pay a wage only high enough to keep them alive).

[Janus]

Ebeneezer, we already discussed this in that last troll thread you made. If you want us to think that you're a different guy, then you should at least act like it and grow a brain!

[theraven]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2006, 08:15 PM
Ebeneezer, we already discussed this in that last troll thread you made. If you want us to think that you're a different guy, then you should at least act like it and grow a brain!
I'm sure whoever he is is ery bright, however you have to adjust things to a level peopel arond you understand. I don't speak political babble arond freinds any more then my physics major friend goes on about particle phyics.

[RaiseYourVoice]

this is actually the reason why you get so funny comments in OI and not in the rest of the forum, think about it.

[Axel1917]

Of course I believe in freedom. The difference is that I believe in freedom for the workers and not for the rich.