Abolish Communism
12th August 2006, 03:53
We will take a moment and examine those comments I made. You will all notice that there was no response to them by Janus or others.
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Bill Gates is the proper authority to determine what he will pay his employees.
No, he is not.
Well, who else would be the "proper authority".
Here's a question for you Janus:
Am I the proper authority to destroy a tree so that I can extend my home for a new member of my family? If not me, then who?
Am I the proper authroity to pick an apple off of a tree from the Cleavland National Forest? If not me, then who?
Is the State of California the proper authority to determine that cars should be driven on the right, and not on the left.
Can Bill Gates set fire to his workshops, presuming he doesn't try to defraud the insurance company?
Marxism has, for the most part, no answer to many questions, even in post industrial society.
Human evolution, technologically speaking, evolved from banging the rocks together. In a post Revolutionary society, should the DOP be the proper authority to determine who should be able to bang the rocks together?
Janus argued, without any real depth, that Bill Gates should not be the authority to determine the wages for his company, even though it is his company, that is, he created it.
Marxists have always had several flaws in their thinking, espceially the flaw of what makes a product.
Traditional legal common law has determined that natural materials + human transformation of those materials makes a product. But the question becomes where authority would come from after a revolution. So I will discuss my comments above, though they were not spam, they were not addressed by anyone here. I know of course that a Marxist cannot discuss them, because they are logic versus their dogma that no one should own anything. But, let us address them none the less:
Remember I asked you to answer these Janus:
1. Am I the proper authority to destroy a tree so that I can extend my home for a new member of my family? If not me, then who?
One of the staple statements made by commies when asked, "Will I be able to keep my clothes, watch, desk, after the Revolution?" is, "Who would ever want your clothes, your watch, your desk?
If, post Revolution, I am living at my home, and I need to expand it for my family, and a tree blocks the expansion, what will happen? If I try and cut it down, what if another likes the tree where it is, and civil brawl is a possibility. (That is, a fight.) Because the laws of California and case law was removed or ordered extinct by the People's Liberation Army of Kalifornia, there is no longer precident, but there is instead the local community, who are going to put down their rakes and hoes and sit down to answer my tree question, along with the other 2,000 issues that arose in my community since the Revolution. Idiocy. Total bullshit. This is not spam, but a fact. The truth is that commies don't know how to answer my tree question, and they will have eliminated the local Zoning commission where I live, and who knows what will happen. By the time they make their decision, I will have delivered two more children and their decree will be moot.
2. Am I the proper authroity to pick an apple off of a tree from the Cleavland National Forest? If not me, then who? Again, no answer by any commie because they don't have answers. They will be busy creating commmittee after committee to protect the natural resources of society, while people freeze.
3. Is the State of California the proper authority to determine that cars should be driven on the right, and not on the left. More nightmares brought to you by the commies. Anarchy is a myth anyway, the Kalifornia "government" will impose more or less the same vehicle code, and they'll muck it all up.
4. Can Bill Gates set fire to his workshops, presuming he doesn't try to defraud the insurance company? Here is the essence of my argument. Where there is no property, there becomes no crime to destroy anything. As I mentioned in the beginning, a pruduct is my effort + a natural resourse. I make a fishing rod out of wood and my genius. I don't own it, according to Revolutionary dogma, I merely use it. What if I decide I am done with it? Can I destroy it? What if someone attempts to prevent me from destroying it, because they wish to fish, while I wish to transform it to a stick to cook my marshmellows. In my cappied world, I own it and can do so. In post Revolutionary Kalifornia, who knows!?! Shall we have a direct democracy action to determine whether it becomes another's fishing rod or my marshmellow stick? These are not pipe dream issues, but daily arguments that people tend to have.
5. Now for the statement that no one seemed to understand. (I'll walk you through it):
Human evolution, technologically speaking, evolved from banging the rocks together. In a post Revolutionary society, should the DOP be the proper authority to determine who should be able to bang the rocks together?
First, to approach this, one had to know that banging rocks together is an allusion to the first homonid tool user. Generally speaking, if you want to launch the Space Shuttle and don't know jack shit about ANYTHING, someone had better start banging rocks together to put themselves on the millions year journey to launch the damn shuttle. No banged rocks, no rockets. Sorry if I presumed this was common knowledge.
In post Revolutionary Kalifornia, perhaps many of you commies would argue that one could have the freedom to experiment on Project X. Does he need approval of his neighbors? What if they like what he did, and locally decided, through direct democracy, that what he's done so far is exactly what they need to solve Problem #1? He explains that no! Don't stop me now, Project X will solve a bunch of stuff, but all you care about is Problem #1. Rock banging becomes socialized, and one needs a permit to experiment.
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Bill Gates is the proper authority to determine what he will pay his employees.
No, he is not.
Well, who else would be the "proper authority".
Here's a question for you Janus:
Am I the proper authority to destroy a tree so that I can extend my home for a new member of my family? If not me, then who?
Am I the proper authroity to pick an apple off of a tree from the Cleavland National Forest? If not me, then who?
Is the State of California the proper authority to determine that cars should be driven on the right, and not on the left.
Can Bill Gates set fire to his workshops, presuming he doesn't try to defraud the insurance company?
Marxism has, for the most part, no answer to many questions, even in post industrial society.
Human evolution, technologically speaking, evolved from banging the rocks together. In a post Revolutionary society, should the DOP be the proper authority to determine who should be able to bang the rocks together?
Janus argued, without any real depth, that Bill Gates should not be the authority to determine the wages for his company, even though it is his company, that is, he created it.
Marxists have always had several flaws in their thinking, espceially the flaw of what makes a product.
Traditional legal common law has determined that natural materials + human transformation of those materials makes a product. But the question becomes where authority would come from after a revolution. So I will discuss my comments above, though they were not spam, they were not addressed by anyone here. I know of course that a Marxist cannot discuss them, because they are logic versus their dogma that no one should own anything. But, let us address them none the less:
Remember I asked you to answer these Janus:
1. Am I the proper authority to destroy a tree so that I can extend my home for a new member of my family? If not me, then who?
One of the staple statements made by commies when asked, "Will I be able to keep my clothes, watch, desk, after the Revolution?" is, "Who would ever want your clothes, your watch, your desk?
If, post Revolution, I am living at my home, and I need to expand it for my family, and a tree blocks the expansion, what will happen? If I try and cut it down, what if another likes the tree where it is, and civil brawl is a possibility. (That is, a fight.) Because the laws of California and case law was removed or ordered extinct by the People's Liberation Army of Kalifornia, there is no longer precident, but there is instead the local community, who are going to put down their rakes and hoes and sit down to answer my tree question, along with the other 2,000 issues that arose in my community since the Revolution. Idiocy. Total bullshit. This is not spam, but a fact. The truth is that commies don't know how to answer my tree question, and they will have eliminated the local Zoning commission where I live, and who knows what will happen. By the time they make their decision, I will have delivered two more children and their decree will be moot.
2. Am I the proper authroity to pick an apple off of a tree from the Cleavland National Forest? If not me, then who? Again, no answer by any commie because they don't have answers. They will be busy creating commmittee after committee to protect the natural resources of society, while people freeze.
3. Is the State of California the proper authority to determine that cars should be driven on the right, and not on the left. More nightmares brought to you by the commies. Anarchy is a myth anyway, the Kalifornia "government" will impose more or less the same vehicle code, and they'll muck it all up.
4. Can Bill Gates set fire to his workshops, presuming he doesn't try to defraud the insurance company? Here is the essence of my argument. Where there is no property, there becomes no crime to destroy anything. As I mentioned in the beginning, a pruduct is my effort + a natural resourse. I make a fishing rod out of wood and my genius. I don't own it, according to Revolutionary dogma, I merely use it. What if I decide I am done with it? Can I destroy it? What if someone attempts to prevent me from destroying it, because they wish to fish, while I wish to transform it to a stick to cook my marshmellows. In my cappied world, I own it and can do so. In post Revolutionary Kalifornia, who knows!?! Shall we have a direct democracy action to determine whether it becomes another's fishing rod or my marshmellow stick? These are not pipe dream issues, but daily arguments that people tend to have.
5. Now for the statement that no one seemed to understand. (I'll walk you through it):
Human evolution, technologically speaking, evolved from banging the rocks together. In a post Revolutionary society, should the DOP be the proper authority to determine who should be able to bang the rocks together?
First, to approach this, one had to know that banging rocks together is an allusion to the first homonid tool user. Generally speaking, if you want to launch the Space Shuttle and don't know jack shit about ANYTHING, someone had better start banging rocks together to put themselves on the millions year journey to launch the damn shuttle. No banged rocks, no rockets. Sorry if I presumed this was common knowledge.
In post Revolutionary Kalifornia, perhaps many of you commies would argue that one could have the freedom to experiment on Project X. Does he need approval of his neighbors? What if they like what he did, and locally decided, through direct democracy, that what he's done so far is exactly what they need to solve Problem #1? He explains that no! Don't stop me now, Project X will solve a bunch of stuff, but all you care about is Problem #1. Rock banging becomes socialized, and one needs a permit to experiment.