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RevolutionaryMarxist
11th August 2006, 01:03
Ok Comrades I've decided perhaps I was a bit paranoid and those might have been just coincidences - the car was pretty old anyway, it was a 15 year old Used car and the police prob. have good views of where accidents are, and the increased patrols might not be related to me.

But anyway: I sometimes get into arguments with dumb-minded idiots about communism, and while I know the arguments, when I'm actually questioned with such idiocy I give similarly idiotic answers due to some emotional anger. So, If you wouldnt mind - would someone like to give me a set of answers to these questions?

and other ones that you believe to be good questions but aren't on here:

(Note: Most people around here agree capitalism ain't that great, but they see the possibility as reform and look to socialism as 'over')

1.) Sorry, but Communism is over - deal with it (Relevance)
2.) The economics of a Communist society wouldn't function for people will always take more than they 'need' (in refrence to 'each according to his ability to each according this his need')
3.) People are naturally greedy, and human nature simply won't allow such a thing.
4.) A Communist state would repress free speech and (etc. humanitarian arguments), and thus isn't better than our modern society.

5.) Alright, Communism sounds great, but No one will ever go for it - you would need nearly everyone to support such a system, and most people don't at the moment.

6.) The Communist states right now are terrible dictatorships and ruins of failed economies - capitalism will win over communism.

7.) Communism might occur in the far future perhaps, But I don't really care

etc.

Thanks :)

(I was hoping that guide I saw was nearing completion but apparently that project has halted for the moment

Janus
11th August 2006, 01:09
Most of those questions are answered here

High school commie's guide (http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=25500)

RevolutionaryMarxist
11th August 2006, 01:19
Quite a Long Topic, but thanks >_<

afrikaNOW
11th August 2006, 01:28
No offense, but the reason you can&#39;t intelligently answer those questions is because you yourself don&#39;t know the answers. I get the feeling you are anti-capitalist but really dont understand how capitalism works or how socialism works or would be reached. I think the best thing for you is to read more about Marxism, Socialism and capitalism. Seriously, because if knowing a few stock answers to stock questions isnt going to help you in the long run when the debate gets deeper or will it help you to grow as a revolutionary. The only way to get into effective dialouge with capitalist supporters is to understand it fully and that means you have to read on your own and not get food fed answers that you do not fully comprehend.

Janus
11th August 2006, 01:36
No offense, but the reason you can&#39;t intelligently answer those questions is because you yourself don&#39;t know the answers.
That is why he made that post in the first place. There&#39;s no need to call him on that.


Quite a Long Topic, but thanks
Well, there are a lot of arguements against it.

RevolutionaryMarxist
11th August 2006, 01:37
No - I do know the answers, and I have read most of Lenin and a good amount of Marx, including the bulk of Capital.

Just I am tired of rephrasing these answers over and over, and currently well - I&#39;m &#39;weared out" so to speak - so I would just like to get the common rebutles to the questions.

After all, remember - most people when they argue do not focus so much on Logic - according to a recent study, all political opinions are backed by the emotional centers of the brain

but nvm I found all i needed on the other forum,

afrikaNOW
11th August 2006, 01:43
Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2006, 10:37 PM

No offense, but the reason you can&#39;t intelligently answer those questions is because you yourself don&#39;t know the answers.
That is why he made that post in the first place. There&#39;s no need to call him on that.


Quite a Long Topic, but thanks
Well, there are a lot of arguements against it.
I dont need to explain myself, i already did. Him knowing set answers for set questions isnt going to help in the long run.

RevolutionaryMarxist
11th August 2006, 02:12
I&#39;m good at relaxed and thorough thinking - not at quick witty responses, so set answers would help me with such witty responses :)

cause literally, all the questions people ask are the same

LSD
11th August 2006, 02:38
Ok, you want simple answers? Here goes.


1.) Sorry, but Communism is over - deal with it (Relevance)

Democracy was "over" after Athens fell.

Times change.


2.) The economics of a Communist society wouldn&#39;t function for people will always take more than they &#39;need&#39; (in refrence to &#39;each according to his ability to each according this his need&#39;)

Why?


3.) People are naturally greedy, and human nature simply won&#39;t allow such a thing.

Prove it.


4.) A Communist state would repress free speech and (etc. humanitarian arguments), and thus isn&#39;t better than our modern society.

No they wouldn&#39;t.


5.) Alright, Communism sounds great, but No one will ever go for it - you would need nearly everyone to support such a system, and most people don&#39;t at the moment.

Most people used to support feudalism until they figured out that there was a better system.


6.) The Communist states right now are terrible dictatorships and ruins of failed economies - capitalism will win over communism.

The "Communists states" right know are about as "communist" as the "Democratic People&#39;s Republic of Korea" is "democratic".


7.) Communism might occur in the far future perhaps, But I don&#39;t really care

Do you care about having to work 8 hours a day? Do you care about having enough food to eat? &#39;Cause communism would solve all your economic problems.

That&#39;s the whole point.

RevolutionaryMarxist
11th August 2006, 02:40
lol kthx