London March and George Galloway

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

Anyone interested can access some of the main speeches here:

https://www.socialistworker.co.uk/article.p...article_id=9418 (https://www.socialistworker.co.uk/article.php?article_id=9418)

George Galloway interview with Sky TV here:

http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videopla..._060806,00.html (http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,31200-galloway_060806,00.html)

[BurnTheOliveTree]

Merci Beaucoup.

By the way, what's the communist consensus on Galloway? I occasionally think he's brilliant, what with the American supreme court showdown and things. But other times he seems to be communicating via entirely the wrong orifice.

-Alex

[Marion]

General view of Respect (the party he's head of) is that he's fantastic (perhaps with some disliking the odd thing).

General view of many on the left is that he did well in his talk in the States but is a Stalinist idiot whose party has questionable tactics.

General view of most of the population of the UK: self-publicising cretin who's got his come-uppance.

Miaow Miaow!

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

Burn, yes he is not ideologically perfect, but he can't half get a left message across to muslims. They love him!

Marion, thanks for that, but how come you know what the general public think of him?

He gets huge audiences wherever he speaks, and the crowds on each march I have been on (nearly a dozen since Feb 2003) receive him very well.

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

Here is one picture of the march:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rosa.l/chimage.jpg

This is jut one tiny section; it took five hours for the march to reach parliament square.

Here are two more my daughter Miriam took, back along Lower Regent Street, and then down Piccadilly (the same road as pictured above, but pointing the other way, about an hour later):

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rosa.l/PHTO0077a.jpg

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rosa.l/PHTO0078a.jpg

[Marion]

Just my personal impression. I'd imagine that most of the population would think of his Celebrity Big Brother appearance and the headlines it got him and think he was a prat. Or they wouldn't really have a clue who he was. Obviously there'd be some who wouldn't care or are happy with his politics. Feel free to disagree...

Personally I don't give us a damn about his Big Brother appearance but don't have any time for him.

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

Marion, I can't figure out why some on the left do not like Galloway.

But, at every march I have been on, from the huge ones in Feb, March and April 2003, to these in 2006, he has been exceptionally well received. No other left figure is so loved by muslims.

His Big Brother appearance was a mistake; but we all make mistakes (he did not discuss it with Respect before he agreed to go on, apparently).

I have, however, no illusions in any individual.

Our movemet has to be democratic or it is nothing, and, as far as I can see, has to be empowered from below, or it will fail.

Galloway does not come from that tradition; hence I trust him only as far as he is subject to democratic control.

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by Rosa [email protected] 7 2006, 08:54 AM
Marion, I can't figure out why some on the left do not like Galloway.

http://www.theodoresworld.net/pcfreezone/gallowayandsaddamson.jpg

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39944000/jpg/_39944524_saddam_203.jpg

[Enragé]

galloway is a reformist attention whore

[Whitten]

The annoying thing is I cant stand the moron. However he's got the right policies (even if he's to social democratic), he seems to be hitting at the right hard, and he's a left wing alternative for the UK.

[вор в законе]

I have heard about this guy but I never saw him in action until today and sheesh I can't believe I actually saw this in Murdock's Sky News. :lol: (regardless that he is not much of a communist)

http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/46227/...G_Sky_News.html (http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/46227/George_Galloway_PWNING_Sky_News.html)

[Janus]

Someone already made a thread about this.

Merged.

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

AF: so?

[вор в законе]

Oh thank's, I had no Idea. :)

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

NKOS:


galloway is a reformist attention whore

Since when has that been a problem, so long as one has no illusions in such figures?

The question is, have we anyone esle on the left who can handle the media so well?

[Kamraten]

I have for days witness the medias pathetic reporting and journalistic from the middle east. The side taking and the Israel defending.
But finally one man open his voice during a skynews interview. And it felt so good that in his final words i actually was applauding infront of my computer.

check it out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=249JaIaubVw

[Janus]

Another one?

We are having this discussion right now in Practice. Merged.

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2006, 08:13 PM
By the way, what's the communist consensus on Galloway?
I want to smash his teeth in with a bat and hang him. The general consensus however, is that hes a bourgeoisie, reformist cock.

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

AF: As I have said, you seem to be far too good a comrade to allow your personal likes and dislikes to cloud your politcal vision; there is no place for this:



I want to smash his teeth in with a bat and hang him. The general consensus however, is that hes a bourgeoisie, reformist cock.

I can go on any number of rightwing sites and read the same sort of bilious stuff.

[RebelDog]

George is like Tommy Sheridan with his massive ego and always close-by self-destruct button. I can't help be moved when I hear both these men speak though. I cannot help but like George, it is so seldom now in Britain we get to hear the dissenting voices and Galloway is an effective one, if at times a fool.

[Ian]

Originally posted by Additives [email protected] 9 2006, 01:51 AM
I want to smash his teeth in with a bat and hang him.
I've seen ya, you couldn't do shit so don't talk tough.

The photo of him with Saddam was when he was setting up a charity for children who were victims of war.

[Global_Justice]

i think he has a wonderful way with words and is a very good speaker. however i don't agree with everything that comes out of his mouth. i'd love to have a debate with him because i think he is a top bloke.

[RedAnarchist]

He is never going to really help the left, but he's a lot better than blair, cameron and campbell could ever be.

The good thing is that he has a lot of support amongst Muslims - at least they are being exposed to views that, whilst nowhere near revolutionary, are much better than those of the mian three parties and the fundamentalist nutters.

[Xvall]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9Wdwk1dp-uU

I thought I'd share this. It's a video of George Galloway arguing with a reporter and refuting her claims conscerning the activity in Lebanon.

For anyone who doesn't know, Galloway is a British Politician with socialistic leanings.

The following is his interview with Sky News.

[Sugar Hill Kevis]

this is sort of being discussed in practice

http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=54018

[MiniOswald]

Yer generally I agree, hes a bit of a twat. Respect will never get anywhere and his one line arguement for whenever things go wrong is 'bush and blair', which actually I suppose would make him a good revlefter.

Ive got to hand it to him though, he has a real talant for argueing and like TAKN his standing with muslims is good. He does at least show they theyve got alternatives to the usual shit thats pushed onto them.

[Xvall]

Galloway regarded Saddam as a "Bestial Dictator". He was one of the founding members of the campaign against Saddam's Repression of the Iraqui Communist Party. Implying that he was "in league" with Saddam is insulting.

[Xvall]

Sorry. Feel free to delete/merge this then.

[Patchd]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2006, 09:51 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9Wdwk1dp-uU

I thought I'd share this. It's a video of George Galloway arguing with a reporter and refuting her claims conscerning the activity in Lebanon.

For anyone who doesn't know, Galloway is a British Politician with socialistic leanings.

The following is his interview with Sky News.
Yes, I've seen that. He's a great speaker, dont agree with all his politics but a great speaker nonetheless. Notice also how Skynews begins to lower the volume of his voice when they realise that he's rinsing them bad. So much so that at times you cant even hear what he is saying, but you can hear what the reporter is, or what the Israeli soldiers are shouting.

[Patchd]

Galloway is a reformist who associates himself with the Bourgeoisie, he will never fully help the working class, yet I do agree that he would be better than Blair, Brown or Cameron, but he is NOT the way forward. I would not give my support to him.

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

MiniO:


Respect will never get anywhere and his one line arguement for whenever things go wrong is 'bush and blair'

How do you work that out, other than by invention?

[Just Dave]

Galloway is a twat, and a populist twat at that. I was at that march that Rosa Lichtenstein posted pictures and I heard him talk, and he was totaly pandering to the muslims. Some quotes from him that I found paticularly interesting:

"Hezbollah are not, and have never been a terrorist organisation."

"...The real leaders of the arab people are Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro." Found that one especially amusing.

[Marion]

Originally posted by Just [email protected] 15 2006, 10:07 PM
Galloway is a twat, and a populist twat at that. I was at that march that Rosa Lichtenstein posted pictures and I heard him talk, and he was totaly pandering to the muslims. Some quotes from him that I found paticularly interesting:

"Hezbollah are not, and have never been a terrorist organisation."

"...The real leaders of the arab people are Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro." Found that one especially amusing.
Yep. It's interesting that some on the UK left seem to have no problem singing that "we all live in a terrorist regime", citing (amongst others) issues such as indiscriminate attacks on civilians, use of crude bombs, links to various nefarious regimes, but then not only don't apply the same analysis to Hezbollah but, in fact, proclaim "we are all Hezbollah"!