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Severian
5th August 2006, 10:40
From the Guardian (op-ed by the leader of a human rights group) (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,1837002,00.html) Emphasis added.

Our meddling is accelerating this descent into civil war

The US occupation did not create the sectarian tensions that disfigure Iraq - but its policies entrenched the divisions

Mark Lattimer
Friday August 4, 2006
The Guardian

The leaked report from Britain's outgoing ambassador in Iraq, warning that "civil war and a de facto division of Iraq" are now a likelihood, elicited a studied silence from Downing Street and Whitehall yesterday; but William Patey's fears could not have come as a surprise.

The toll of sectarian killings has increased inexorably over the past few months since the destruction of the al-Askari shrine in Samarra, and the violently reworked geography of Baghdad and other mixed cities is beginning to resemble nothing so much as the mono-ethnic enclaves that 15 years of civil war imposed on Beirut. When I bumped into the former Iraqi defence minister last week, on the day that preparatory talks on national reconciliation broke up without agreement, he had the dead-tired eyes and relentless pessimism of a man losing a war.

But if the UK government often sounds as if it is in denial regarding sectarian war in Iraq, that may be because it and the US are partly to blame. Prior to the 2003 invasion, all Iraq's main opposition groups supported the continuance of a unified Iraqi state and emphasised the long tradition of inter-community cooperation and mixed marriages. Shias in particular would cite the fact that they fought alongside Sunnis in the Iran-Iraq war, and would point to the Shia uprising in 1991 - when revenge attacks were not targeted on sectarian grounds but included Sunni and Shia collaborators alike.

Yet one of the first acts of the coalition authorities was to create the Iraqi Governing Council, in which membership, and the power that went with it, was divided up on communal lines. Government ministries were similarly divided, and patronage soon ensured that they became dominated by officials from the minister's own sect or ethnic group. US advisers appeared to be applying the same power-sharing model they had promoted in Bosnia - and injecting some of the inter-communal poison that still courses through Bosnian politics - despite the fact that Iraq had not experienced a civil war. This error was compounded when Donald Rumsfeld placed enormous pressure on the Iraqi authorities not to extend the deadline for drawing up the new Iraqi constitution, thereby effectively destroying any chances of including Sunni Arab parties in the drafting process.

But perhaps most damaging of all has been the failure to hold the Iraqi government to account for mass human rights violations, against Sunni civilians in particular. For a long time these were reported in a kind of code: while suicide bombs and roadside attacks were immediately (and generally correctly) ascribed to Sunni insurgents, and justifiably condemned by Washington and London, we would read only that the bodies of another dozen or so civilians had been found dumped in Baghdad, their hands bound and with marks of torture.

It took the UN assistance mission in Iraq to help publicise the existence of alleged Shia death squads operating within the ministry of the interior. Only in a confidential report would the UK government talk of these militias as frankly as Ambassador Patey did: "If we are to avoid a descent into civil war and anarchy then preventing the Jaish al-Mahdi (the Mahdi Army) from developing into a state within a state, as Hizbullah has done in Lebanon, will be a priority."

The Iraqi human rights ministry investigates abuses in prisons and detention facilities, but the new minister, Wijdan Mikha'il, admitted to me that her investigators are sometimes too frightened to report what they find. The day before we met in June, she had delivered to the US authorities her unpublished investigation of the massacre at Haditha, where US marines were accused of killing up to 24 civilians; she told me that it was an attempt to introduce independent oversight. ("How can they do the investigation all by themselves if they were responsible for the incident? Who will believe them?")

We must be clear: although the 2003 invasion set the dogs of war running, western governments did not create sectarianism in Iraq. Saddam Hussein's repression of the Kurds and Shias left a legacy of inter-community hatred, and Iraq's new government is faced with insurgent groups such as al-Qaida, animated by Sunni supremacism, pursuing a deliberate strategy of sparking inter-community conflict in order to destabilise the country and unite Sunni opposition to the Shia-led government.

Yet time and again the policies of first the coalition authorities and then the multinational force in Iraq, far from promoting reconciliation, have entrenched sectarian divisions. The fear is that their legacy in Iraq will be seen not in Iraq's new multicultural parliament but in districts such as al-Dora, south of Baghdad, where Sunni and Shia have lived side by side for generations, but which are now systematically being emptied of their original population as people flee for the relative safety of their own kind. The bodies of the victims of sectarian killings are left to rot, or be eaten by dogs in the street, because their families are too frightened to collect them.

· Mark Lattimer is the director of Minority Rights Group International www.minorityrights.org

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Discussion?

I think it's all true, except this is only half-true: "Prior to the 2003 invasion, all Iraq's main opposition groups supported the continuance of a unified Iraqi state and emphasised the long tradition of inter-community cooperation and mixed marriages." The Kurdish nationalist parties had de facto independence and aimed to keep it - as they have.

'Course, that's the one part of Iraq which isn't descending into a Yugoslavia-like bloodbath - and the one part which isn't under the occupation. The Daily Show today showed a tourism commercial from Iraqi Kurdistan - one of its selling points is that there are only about 200 "coalition personnel" there.

Also of interest: U.S. soldiers say civil war has started. (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003176836_civilwar05.html)

While more media attention has been focused on Lebanon lately, the UN has reported that about 3,000 Iraqi civilians are being killed every month.

Janus
5th August 2006, 10:43
Discussion?
I agree.

There is a low intensity civil war going on but it has yet to become a full-scale one despite the doings of certain groups to create one.

The US is in a tight position here, their meddling is fueling a civil war but if they leave, a civil war is just as likely to happen.

RevSouth
6th August 2006, 00:10
Right, it is a bit of a Catch 22. But what is the right thing for us to do? It is hard to back the occupying U.S. troops, but it is not right to back these religious bastards either. Your opinions?

Noah
6th August 2006, 18:17
Hmm I'm not sure what the solution is but my relatives have been telling me people are killing each other on the streets, or trying to due to religious differences.

A civil war has already started.

James
6th August 2006, 18:56
Severian,
I would agree with your comments. I think the article does play down sectarianism in iraq pre invasion. Take for example the gulf war, the south rebelled when Bush asked. The northern kurds provide a similar example.

It's interesting to also look at what saddam claimed way back in the 80s regarding his nation and islam. He (i'm paraphrasing) stressed that it was vital not to be too vocal about islam in iraq as the differences would split the country apart (i found this whilst researching security dilemmas of the middle east, i don't have my biography with me at the moment but i can find it if anyone wants he source).

To be fair though the article does balance it self. For example,

"We must be clear: although the 2003 invasion set the dogs of war running, western governments did not create sectarianism in Iraq. Saddam Hussein's repression of the Kurds and Shias left a legacy of inter-community hatred, and Iraq's new government is faced with insurgent groups such as al-Qaida, animated by Sunni supremacism, pursuing a deliberate strategy of sparking inter-community conflict in order to destabilise the country and unite Sunni opposition to the Shia-led government."

We also need to consider iraq's history. Post ottoman empire it was formulated without giving much consideration to ethnic and tirbal boundaries. However, other nations also exist which have ethnic devisions and do not have iraq's problem.

The occupations biggest fault has been that which has characterised it's entire post conflict plans. i.e. it was a load of bollocks. However it has at least made the school of thought, that thinks giving people the vote will result in "founding-father-like-democracy", to think a bit more deeply.

But aye, i would put more of the actual blame on the nature of saddam's rule (which actually applies to other middle eastern countries - autocracy from a geographical/ethnic/religious minority, take for example the saudi's) and the fact that there are groups in iraq now who wish to see a civil war. They have no interest in toleration.

Solution?
Well if not tolerating others is popular with the majority then any attempts from the outside to enforce toleration will be seen as imperialism; the will and action of an outside power(s). Or at least depicted as imperialism by those who wish to have no toleration. Anti imperialism propaganda is very easy to produce and is hard to combat.

Severian
9th August 2006, 11:39
Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2006, 09:57 AM
The occupations biggest fault has been that which has characterised it's entire post conflict plans. i.e. it was a load of bollocks.
That's kinda nonspecific. The article is better at characterizing the problem.

The Yugoslavia point is good. Lebanon is also a useful example. The French set up the political system there, where each religious sect has its separate representation. Not surprisingly, that's been a recipe for constant sectarian tension, and all the major parties are religious-sectarian parties. They're no incentive for an electoral party to try to have a cross-sect appeal.


We also need to consider iraq's history. Post ottoman empire it was formulated without giving much consideration to ethnic and tirbal boundaries. However, other nations also exist which have ethnic devisions and do not have iraq's problem.

See, there's a difference between an ethnic/national division and a religious-sectarian division. Both can be bloody, but the former has different solutions.

The Kurd-Arab distinction is national, and you can usefully speak of autonomy or independence. The Sunni-Shi'a division isn't - and you can't. Both because the two populations are so entangled - there's lots of "cleansing" right now with each group driving the other out of towns and neighborhoods. And because states founded with religion as the basis for their identity tend to have problems with that. Consider the partition of India, and the results in Pakistan.

Anyway, when speaking about solutions, you gotta ask: who's going to solve it? Not the occupiers, and not any of the Iraqi capitalist factions, IMO. Only working people, and class unity against sectarian division, can push things forward out of the current hopeless swamp.