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MKS
4th August 2006, 00:33
Emiliano Zapata fought for over 10 years in order to establish his ideal of patria chica, a small nation state free from the encumbrances and tyrannies of the large central government. His Plan of Ayala was true agrarian reform which gave land ownership to all who worked it, and destroyed the monopolies of the Haciendas. Zaptismo can be compared to a Jeffersonian ideal, in that it is an agrarian reform and not an industrial. Can Zapitsmo be converted to an industrial model?
And is Zapatismo relevant in the modern struggle?
Vive Zapata!
Enragé
4th August 2006, 02:09
yes, zapatismo is relevant, and can be "upgraded" to encompass both agrarian as well as industrial programmes.
Land to the peasants, factories (and the like) to the workers. Quite simple really.
the existance of the EZLN also proves that it is relevant today
EZLN rocks.
MKS
4th August 2006, 02:52
yes, zapatismo is relevant, and can be "upgraded" to encompass both agrarian as well as industrial programmes.
Could you elaborate? How can an agrarian reform be transfered to an industrial reform? Certainly mass industry provides more complications than an agrarian one.
How is the modern Zapatista movement similar to the Reovlution of the early 20th century? While Zapata worked and fought for land reform and the destruction of the Haciendas, he was not a socialist, more of a Libertarian, and even supported certain movements that were blatanlty capitalist.
Enragé
4th August 2006, 02:56
Could you elaborate? How can an agrarian reform be transfered to an industrial reform? Certainly mass industry provides more complications than an agrarian one.
perhaps, but the idea is the same; collective ownership, collective responsibility
whether it is a council of peasants deciding what to do with the land in co-ordination with other councils of peasants or worker-councils doing the same...its just a matter of organisation
How is the modern Zapatista movement similar to the Reovlution of the early 20th century? While Zapata worked and fought for land reform and the destruction of the Haciendas, he was not a socialist, more of a Libertarian, and even supported certain movements that were blatanlty capitalist.
ah, well when you said zapatismo i thought EZLN-style.
Well, EZLN is libertarian as well, and never said they were socialist.
Also, times have changed, the dramatic impact of capitalism on mexico is now more than evident, which was probably not the case in the early 20th century (or it was not percieved that capitalism was the evildoer).
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