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Ander
2nd August 2006, 06:11
Today has been a strange day for me, I think this whole situation in Cuba is getting me down. Also that my gf is finally listening with interest to what I have to say, actually saying that she dislikes the US, etc is making me feel sad and worried. Anyways, something I just thought about today is:

America has always had an enemy, this is obvious. First it was the Natives, who they successfully beat (mass genocide). Next was the blacks, who they subdued and enslaved until they could no longer do so. They did not eliminate them, but put them in a position where they no longer pose a significant threat. The next enemy I leave up for debate; the fascists. This enemy seems a bit out of place to me...they weren't a big deal at the beginning but later were beaten. After that was the communists, who after the Cold War were also defeated with the collapse of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact nations. Now, it seems that the next enemy of the US is the Muslim world. Iraq has been occupied, Iran looks awfully close to being next, Saudi Arabia has already been quietly taken care of, now a US supported invasion by Israel is destroying Lebanon...

From what I see, this is just the next stage in the list of American enemies. I also see it as being the last until complete American domination. Who else will be left after the Muslims? Once they have been dealt with, there will be no one else.

Thoughts?

CubaSocialista
2nd August 2006, 06:15
Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2006, 03:12 AM
Today has been a strange day for me, I think this whole situation in Cuba is getting me down. Also that my gf is finally listening with interest to what I have to say, actually saying that she dislikes the US, etc is making me feel sad and worried. Anyways, something I just thought about today is:

America has always had an enemy, this is obvious. First it was the Natives, who they successfully beat (mass genocide). Next was the blacks, who they subdued and enslaved until they could no longer do so. They did not eliminate them, but put them in a position where they no longer pose a significant threat. The next enemy I leave up for debate; the fascists. This enemy seems a bit out of place to me...they weren't a big deal at the beginning but later were beaten. After that was the communists, who after the Cold War were also defeated with the collapse of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact nations. Now, it seems that the next enemy of the US is the Muslim world. Iraq has been occupied, Iran looks awfully close to being next, Saudi Arabia has already been quietly taken care of, now a US supported invasion by Israel is destroying Lebanon...

From what I see, this is just the next stage in the list of American enemies. I also see it as being the last until complete American domination. Who else will be left after the Muslims? Once they have been dealt with, there will be no one else.

Thoughts?
I have a feeling that after the Muslims, it will be the Left all over again.


That, or like, I don't know. Furries?

Ander
2nd August 2006, 06:17
Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2006, 12:16 AM
I have a feeling that after the Muslims, it will be the Left all over again.
If it is, this time we better give them a fight that they won't win.

Gryphon
2nd August 2006, 06:52
Originally posted by CubaSocialista+Aug 2 2006, 03:16 AM--> (CubaSocialista @ Aug 2 2006, 03:16 AM)
[email protected] 2 2006, 03:12 AM
Today has been a strange day for me, I think this whole situation in Cuba is getting me down. Also that my gf is finally listening with interest to what I have to say, actually saying that she dislikes the US, etc is making me feel sad and worried. Anyways, something I just thought about today is:

America has always had an enemy, this is obvious. First it was the Natives, who they successfully beat (mass genocide). Next was the blacks, who they subdued and enslaved until they could no longer do so. They did not eliminate them, but put them in a position where they no longer pose a significant threat. The next enemy I leave up for debate; the fascists. This enemy seems a bit out of place to me...they weren't a big deal at the beginning but later were beaten. After that was the communists, who after the Cold War were also defeated with the collapse of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact nations. Now, it seems that the next enemy of the US is the Muslim world. Iraq has been occupied, Iran looks awfully close to being next, Saudi Arabia has already been quietly taken care of, now a US supported invasion by Israel is destroying Lebanon...

From what I see, this is just the next stage in the list of American enemies. I also see it as being the last until complete American domination. Who else will be left after the Muslims? Once they have been dealt with, there will be no one else.

Thoughts?
I have a feeling that after the Muslims, it will be the Left all over again.


That, or like, I don't know. Furries? [/b]
Right, once the situations in the Middle-East stabalizes with Iraq and Iran (if it ever), the next possible target could be North Korea, if Japan have their way in pressuring the U.S. Although I have mixed feelings about North Korea's stalinist government, for I wouldn't mind that messy regime going to the thrash can but I do not want the U.S. to install butt licking shit-eatters as they have done in Iraq. So, it is interesting what will happen next.

Janus
2nd August 2006, 08:25
Iran and North Korea are both options. Moves are already being made on Cuba. The US wants to spread their version of "freedom" everywhere. I would say China though US corporations have already made an occupation unnecessary.

Gryphon
2nd August 2006, 08:59
Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2006, 05:26 AM
Iran and North Korea are both options. Moves are already being made on Cuba. The US wants to spread their version of "freedom" everywhere. I would say China though US corporations have already made an occupation unnecessary.
I don't think that a move by the U.S. to target China would be wise or achievable unless everyone on this blue planet are in hurry to go to heaven.

Janus
2nd August 2006, 09:03
I don't think that a move by the U.S. to target China would be wise or achievable unless everyone on this blue planet are in hurry to go to heaven.
I know. The logistics and manpower needed would be mindblowing. But like I said, the US's economic dealings with the nation have made an actual military occupation unnecessary.

Enragé
2nd August 2006, 09:43
Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2006, 03:12 AM
Today has been a strange day for me, I think this whole situation in Cuba is getting me down. Also that my gf is finally listening with interest to what I have to say, actually saying that she dislikes the US, etc is making me feel sad and worried. Anyways, something I just thought about today is:

America has always had an enemy, this is obvious. First it was the Natives, who they successfully beat (mass genocide). Next was the blacks, who they subdued and enslaved until they could no longer do so. They did not eliminate them, but put them in a position where they no longer pose a significant threat. The next enemy I leave up for debate; the fascists. This enemy seems a bit out of place to me...they weren't a big deal at the beginning but later were beaten. After that was the communists, who after the Cold War were also defeated with the collapse of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact nations. Now, it seems that the next enemy of the US is the Muslim world. Iraq has been occupied, Iran looks awfully close to being next, Saudi Arabia has already been quietly taken care of, now a US supported invasion by Israel is destroying Lebanon...

From what I see, this is just the next stage in the list of American enemies. I also see it as being the last until complete American domination. Who else will be left after the Muslims? Once they have been dealt with, there will be no one else.

Thoughts?
:huh:

look at the world!

the US is losing on all fronts!

the Israeli-Hezbollah conflict is a COMPLETE stalemate, with ANY realistic outcome highly in favor of hezbollah
Iraq is one big sectarian anti-imperialist radical pit of quicksand for the US
Afghanistan is going downhill for them too
Iran is saying "up yours" to the threat of sanctions
Syria could very well get involved in the middle east crisis
Even the more moderate Arab states, allies of bush, are *****ing at israel as well as the USA because the hate of their population has come to a boiling point following the latest aggression, and to say nothing now would be suicide for those arab leaders

The American Empire...is coming, most definitely, to an end. :lol:

Gryphon
2nd August 2006, 12:16
Originally posted by NewKindOfSoldier+Aug 2 2006, 06:44 AM--> (NewKindOfSoldier @ Aug 2 2006, 06:44 AM)
[email protected] 2 2006, 03:12 AM
Today has been a strange day for me, I think this whole situation in Cuba is getting me down. Also that my gf is finally listening with interest to what I have to say, actually saying that she dislikes the US, etc is making me feel sad and worried. Anyways, something I just thought about today is:

America has always had an enemy, this is obvious. First it was the Natives, who they successfully beat (mass genocide). Next was the blacks, who they subdued and enslaved until they could no longer do so. They did not eliminate them, but put them in a position where they no longer pose a significant threat. The next enemy I leave up for debate; the fascists. This enemy seems a bit out of place to me...they weren't a big deal at the beginning but later were beaten. After that was the communists, who after the Cold War were also defeated with the collapse of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact nations. Now, it seems that the next enemy of the US is the Muslim world. Iraq has been occupied, Iran looks awfully close to being next, Saudi Arabia has already been quietly taken care of, now a US supported invasion by Israel is destroying Lebanon...

From what I see, this is just the next stage in the list of American enemies. I also see it as being the last until complete American domination. Who else will be left after the Muslims? Once they have been dealt with, there will be no one else.

Thoughts?
:huh:

look at the world!

the US is losing on all fronts!

the Israeli-Hezbollah conflict is a COMPLETE stalemate, with ANY realistic outcome highly in favor of hezbollah
Iraq is one big sectarian anti-imperialist radical pit of quicksand for the US
Afghanistan is going downhill for them too
Iran is saying "up yours" to the threat of sanctions
Syria could very well get involved in the middle east crisis
Even the more moderate Arab states, allies of bush, are *****ing at israel as well as the USA because the hate of their population has come to a boiling point following the latest aggression, and to say nothing now would be suicide for those arab leaders

The American Empire...is coming, most definitely, to an end. :lol: [/b]
That is great but as history has shown time and time again, there is always another empire waiting to immerge and take its place.

RedAnarchist
2nd August 2006, 12:20
Originally posted by Gryphon+Aug 2 2006, 10:17 AM--> (Gryphon @ Aug 2 2006, 10:17 AM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2006, 06:44 AM

[email protected] 2 2006, 03:12 AM
Today has been a strange day for me, I think this whole situation in Cuba is getting me down. Also that my gf is finally listening with interest to what I have to say, actually saying that she dislikes the US, etc is making me feel sad and worried. Anyways, something I just thought about today is:

America has always had an enemy, this is obvious. First it was the Natives, who they successfully beat (mass genocide). Next was the blacks, who they subdued and enslaved until they could no longer do so. They did not eliminate them, but put them in a position where they no longer pose a significant threat. The next enemy I leave up for debate; the fascists. This enemy seems a bit out of place to me...they weren't a big deal at the beginning but later were beaten. After that was the communists, who after the Cold War were also defeated with the collapse of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact nations. Now, it seems that the next enemy of the US is the Muslim world. Iraq has been occupied, Iran looks awfully close to being next, Saudi Arabia has already been quietly taken care of, now a US supported invasion by Israel is destroying Lebanon...

From what I see, this is just the next stage in the list of American enemies. I also see it as being the last until complete American domination. Who else will be left after the Muslims? Once they have been dealt with, there will be no one else.

Thoughts?
:huh:

look at the world!

the US is losing on all fronts!

the Israeli-Hezbollah conflict is a COMPLETE stalemate, with ANY realistic outcome highly in favor of hezbollah
Iraq is one big sectarian anti-imperialist radical pit of quicksand for the US
Afghanistan is going downhill for them too
Iran is saying "up yours" to the threat of sanctions
Syria could very well get involved in the middle east crisis
Even the more moderate Arab states, allies of bush, are *****ing at israel as well as the USA because the hate of their population has come to a boiling point following the latest aggression, and to say nothing now would be suicide for those arab leaders

The American Empire...is coming, most definitely, to an end. :lol:
That is great but as history has shown time and time again, there is always another empire waiting to immerge and take its place. [/b]
Which is why we on the Left should try our hradest to ensure that people are educated about Communism. If we can build up a lot of support during the twilight years of the American Empire, we can ensure that any new empire that tries to take America's place is given an hard time right from the start.

Dreckt
2nd August 2006, 15:20
The American Empire never defeated the Soviet Union, it fell by itself.

If there is to be a bigger future conflict, then a possibility is the European Union - which has a strong currency, challenginf the US dollar, as well as more liberal politics and religion (I think). Or they would go after China. I don't think it would become a "Cold War 2" or something like that, but more like an economic war.

We could call it the "Cold Money War"... :P

Physco Bitch
3rd August 2006, 16:23
It does indeed seem as if Bush trying - and at the moment succeding in taking over the whole world, the question is- is there any country out there powerful enough to overcome Americas - and Britions might (Seen as Blair we follow Bush anywhere like the loyal puppie he is). There is always hope though no matter how small that could be... Cuba please stay the same, don't let them win is all i hope- at least if they succed there is hope for others to do the same ;)

Janus
3rd August 2006, 19:14
It does indeed seem as if Bush trying - and at the moment succeding in taking over the whole world, the question is- is there any country out there powerful enough to overcome Americas
We'll most likely see the world soon split over imperialist holdings once again. Alliances will be made and broken in efforts to topple US hegemony.

Enragé
4th August 2006, 00:10
Originally posted by Gryphon+Aug 2 2006, 09:17 AM--> (Gryphon @ Aug 2 2006, 09:17 AM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2006, 06:44 AM

[email protected] 2 2006, 03:12 AM
Today has been a strange day for me, I think this whole situation in Cuba is getting me down. Also that my gf is finally listening with interest to what I have to say, actually saying that she dislikes the US, etc is making me feel sad and worried. Anyways, something I just thought about today is:

America has always had an enemy, this is obvious. First it was the Natives, who they successfully beat (mass genocide). Next was the blacks, who they subdued and enslaved until they could no longer do so. They did not eliminate them, but put them in a position where they no longer pose a significant threat. The next enemy I leave up for debate; the fascists. This enemy seems a bit out of place to me...they weren't a big deal at the beginning but later were beaten. After that was the communists, who after the Cold War were also defeated with the collapse of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact nations. Now, it seems that the next enemy of the US is the Muslim world. Iraq has been occupied, Iran looks awfully close to being next, Saudi Arabia has already been quietly taken care of, now a US supported invasion by Israel is destroying Lebanon...

From what I see, this is just the next stage in the list of American enemies. I also see it as being the last until complete American domination. Who else will be left after the Muslims? Once they have been dealt with, there will be no one else.

Thoughts?
:huh:

look at the world!

the US is losing on all fronts!

the Israeli-Hezbollah conflict is a COMPLETE stalemate, with ANY realistic outcome highly in favor of hezbollah
Iraq is one big sectarian anti-imperialist radical pit of quicksand for the US
Afghanistan is going downhill for them too
Iran is saying "up yours" to the threat of sanctions
Syria could very well get involved in the middle east crisis
Even the more moderate Arab states, allies of bush, are *****ing at israel as well as the USA because the hate of their population has come to a boiling point following the latest aggression, and to say nothing now would be suicide for those arab leaders

The American Empire...is coming, most definitely, to an end. :lol:
That is great but as history has shown time and time again, there is always another empire waiting to immerge and take its place. [/b]
i know i never said we'd be free after it

i even know the name of the new empire, or at least who's gonna be the new superpower next to the US, you guessed it, China

and guess who's gonna be caught in the crossfire?
you, me, ordinary people

..
1 solution
revolution ;)


then a possibility is the European Union - which has a strong currency, challenginf the US dollar,

the european economy cannot grow that much anymore, we're at the end. China outcompetes us, and our leaders cut back on everything (except their own wallet salaries)....but people won't take this if it goes too far (which it will have to if the EU is to compete on the cappie "free" market)...forcing people to live in misery if thats all they've ever known is one thing, taking everything away we fought
for in the past century, is something completely different (look at france...and that was only something minor)

Gryphon
4th August 2006, 00:17
i even know the name of the new empire, or at least who's gonna be the new superpower next to the US, you guessed it, China

and guess who's gonna be caught in the crossfire?
you, me, ordinary people

You read my mind.