Revolution Radio

[lithium]

Anyone here with a shitload of bandwidth? I was messing about with shoutcast and realised that we could use online radio as a medium for communicating with the masses, just as was done with various revolutions in the past.

It could have music, news, interviews with leftists and all that sort of stuff. Similar to normal radio but without the capitalist advertisements and good coverage of left-wing movements and events.

[Rollo]

Yeah that would be good. One of my dreams in life is to be a radio guy... Y'u know... So I could laugh at people I didn't like on air.

A friend of mine would be interested in helping, I have horrible bandwidth for the while so I probably won't be able to host anything.

[Enragé]

very good idea this.
sort of like an indymedia but then in the form of radio broadcasts.

[lithium]

Yeah like indymedia! Everyone could submit news reports or song playlists or weather reports and such the like via mp3 - everyone could have a part in it. Then a couple of people with the computers (and patience!) could broadcast it.

I think it should be "public-friendly", so even those who are not as revolutionary-minded (or even politically-minded) as us can still enjoy it.

[loveme4whoiam]

Smart - I'd tune in to this. How would we set something like this up - I used to listen to a streamed radio show for EVE Online, which connected to someone's media player, like Winamp.

Does it have to be a single PC with excess bandwidth, or can this be done [email protected] style?

[lithium]

I'm not sure if it can be done from multiple machines. But that's not to say we can't have multiple computers each running the same stream - but could be messy...

I used shoutcast: you install the server thing, a plugin for winamp, and configure it to broadcast. Although with my connection I could really only handle a max of 2 or 3 listeners, according to the shoutcast website (realistically I'd say I could have handled more). There's also the option of paying for a stream server, but I'm not sure of the costs involved. Most of the shoutcast servers towards the top of the list have over 1000 listeners, and I reckon with the right setup and good programming we could get similar numbers!

[Enragé]

hmm well regardless we have to keep this idea alive untill it actually takes off! :P

what sort of connection should you have to do something like this? (sorry im not good at the technical side of computers and the like ;) )

[lithium]

I'm just having a look through the shoutcast website now (www.shoutcast.com).

It's possible to have "on-demand" broadcasts too, as opposed to live streams: http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=75736

Other stuff here: http://tinyurl.com/ztndq

We need very high bandwidth Internet connections, generally higher than those used by home computers. It's possible to get a dedicated server with a Revolution Radio website address and stream it from there with plenty of bandwidth, but that costs a good bit...

I guess fellow comrades listening to the station might realise the cost involved in running a dedicated server: a paypal account for donations would be a big plus.

But for now I'm thinking some of us put together a radio show an hour long maybe (music, news, historical speeches-Che's reading of a poem comes to mind!) and upload it and use stream on demand. Put up a new show every couple of days and build a presence. Then we can work on setting up a live stream running for several hours a day (if not continuously).

Any other thoughts? These are just my suggestions - I probably won't be able to help out much with running it, but I'd be happy to help out with some music stuff (music's my bag ^_^ )

[lithium]

Sorry for the double post, but Nullsoft are developing a video streamer. Maybe Revolution Television could happen in the future too?

[Enragé]

Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2006, 01:16 AM
I'm just having a look through the shoutcast website now (www.shoutcast.com).

It's possible to have "on-demand" broadcasts too, as opposed to live streams: http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=75736

Other stuff here: http://tinyurl.com/ztndq

We need very high bandwidth Internet connections, generally higher than those used by home computers. It's possible to get a dedicated server with a Revolution Radio website address and stream it from there with plenty of bandwidth, but that costs a good bit...

I guess fellow comrades listening to the station might realise the cost involved in running a dedicated server: a paypal account for donations would be a big plus.

But for now I'm thinking some of us put together a radio show an hour long maybe (music, news, historical speeches-Che's reading of a poem comes to mind!) and upload it and use stream on demand. Put up a new show every couple of days and build a presence. Then we can work on setting up a live stream running for several hours a day (if not continuously).

Any other thoughts? These are just my suggestions - I probably won't be able to help out much with running it, but I'd be happy to help out with some music stuff (music's my bag ^_^ )
this on demand thing's a good idea. I could dig up some material to be used for sure (there are plenty of speeches, old and new, on the web), and I have loads of revolutionary music mp3's, varying from sketchy-sounding 70 year old anarchist hymns to spanish punk to propagandhi to even some communist hip-hop.



Sorry for the double post, but Nullsoft are developing a video streamer. Maybe Revolution Television could happen in the future too?


haha one step at a time comrade :lol:

[Rollo]

I think I might be able to host it, I will check shoutcast and see.

[loveme4whoiam]

So the on-demand streaming would, in theory, reduce the bandwidth required to run it, unless everyone were to access the stream at the exact same time?

Standalone servers can be pretty expensive, but I like the idea of setting up a PayPal donations account - I mean, if everyone on the boards put in £20 we'd easily be able to afford one *coughs meaningfully* :lol:

[lithium]

Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2006, 01:36 AM


this on demand thing's a good idea. I could dig up some material to be used for sure (there are plenty of speeches, old and new, on the web), and I have loads of revolutionary music mp3's, varying from sketchy-sounding 70 year old anarchist hymns to spanish punk to propagandhi to even some communist hip-hop.

hehe I have to hear some of this stuff! :lol:

[lithium]

Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2006, 08:51 AM
So the on-demand streaming would, in theory, reduce the bandwidth required to run it, unless everyone were to access the stream at the exact same time?
I think so! That way you don't get lots of people connecting at the same time to listen to a live broadcast. The can stream or download the show whenever suits.

[RevMARKSman]

Um, can we wait until Radio Rebelde is back up to start worrying about ANOTHER radio station, please?

[OneBrickOneVoice]

yeah I was gonna say Chelives used to have radio rebelde which played alot of nice revolutionary music. However it's down now.

[RaiseYourVoice]

Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2006, 03:14 PM
Um, can we wait until Radio Rebelde is back up to start worrying about ANOTHER radio station, please?
is it coming back? i asked in a contact message but never got a response to that.

[RevMARKSman]

Originally posted by RaiseYaVoice+Aug 2 2006, 02:30 PM--> (RaiseYaVoice @ Aug 2 2006, 02:30 PM)
[email protected] 2 2006, 03:14 PM
Um, can we wait until Radio Rebelde is back up to start worrying about ANOTHER radio station, please?
is it coming back? i asked in a contact message but never got a response to that. [/b]
I have no idea. About a week or two ago Malte said it would be up within the next few days. But nothing yet.

[lithium]

Hmmm. Hopefully it will be back up.

But that's not to say some comrades can't put together an online station. The more the merrier after all. I'd also like to see this new one "attractive" to anyone - I mean by playing non-revolutionary music, stuff that's in the charts even.

If the station is purely revolutionary then there's a good chance that it might deter "neutral" listeners. If it's like that then our only listeners will be people who are already actively leftist. My idea is that we make it attractive to everyone; that way when people with centrist or no particular political alignment listen to it, they'll still hear the revolutionary programming (music, speeches, etc). This will (hopefully, eventually) draw more people to our cause.

[Enragé]

there is plenty of more or less mainstream music with leftist influences (most punk, most hardcore, stuff like rise against) revolutionary leftist even (think RATM)

[lithium]

Ah yes, RATM and SOAD is another one. There are two band we can put on it :)

[Rollo]

KMFDM would be good too, they put out a pretty big political message in the song WWIII.

[Prowler]

The music is not a problem I know a several bands that produce revolutionary music. But the question is if u need permition from all this groups?
I don´t think u should go for a non or purely revolutionary radioprogram becuse theres plenty of those already on the internet. U better concentrate on a really revolutionary program that I think should discuss issues all around the world from a socialist point of view, play revolutionary music and much other.
My feeling is that a purley revolutionary program will melt in with all the other internet programs and you will have it hard to keep and get listeners. This becuse socialist want to hear socialism and unpolitical persons will maybe choose your program but thats just one of the thousends of programms they can choose.
Sry for my english if it´s bad.

[lithium]

You're English is good!

But that's what I mean, the station would need to attract listeners of all types. So, like you said, discuss issues from a socialist viewpoint, yet play good music that people like, as opposed to purely revolutionary music (which I'm not saying is bad!)

[Guest]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2006, 08:27 PM
You're English is good!

But that's what I mean, the station would need to attract listeners of all types. So, like you said, discuss issues from a socialist viewpoint, yet play good music that people like, as opposed to purely revolutionary music (which I'm not saying is bad!)
But i´m pretty critical to the idea of trying to reach people that aint socialists becuse I think you need something really extra then. But if you do a really good pr-job (and radiojob of course) it might work really well. No matter what u choose you got my support in those things i can help you with. :P

[Prowler]

haha forgott to log in...
The reply above was from me.
Btw thanks for the compliment about my english :P

[lithium]

On the contrary, I believe it's important to reach out to non-socialists (and non-leftists in general). Here in Ireland, the country has been run by pretty much the same parties every since the Irish State was born. The people here aren't familiar with left-wing politics and/or economics, yet every time I chat to a stranger on the street the conversation always turns to talking about how members the government are incompetent and are incapable of their jobs. They always talk about how the health system is a mess, how certain aspects of the transport system is in a shambles, and so forth. Yet I get the impression that they feel that the people of Ireland are stuck with this. Each time this happens I think to myself "There is an alternative!" And these are the people I feel we can reach by not alienating them from a rigid revolutionary radio station.

But of course I'm just speaking from my viewpoint here in Ireland. I guess that it all depends on the country and the people involved!

Oh and thanks for the support! It's good to know there are a good few people interested in this idea! :D

[Prowler]

Of course it´s important to reach out to non-socialists and even try to convert them if it´s possible(wich must be one of your goals). And as you say much is dependent (dont really know if thats a word but i think you know what i mean) of the situation in the country.
Here in sweden it´s very hard to even get any listeners, except friends, becuse theres many many people that got the same idea.
Sweden has become a country that is quite known for filesharing of music and films and the internetradio bussines is not to underetimate.
But with a strong will its absolutley possible do make it here.
Don´t know if u guys care so much about Sweden but I want to inform you what u can expect of this country. After all we got a pretty big leftish movement here and I don´t doubt that we got a big group of capabel persons that can become socialist.

[lithium]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2006, 10:21 PM
Don´t know if u guys care so much about Sweden but I want to inform you what u can expect of this country. After all we got a pretty big leftish movement here.
It doesn't matter where we're from: Our struggle knows no national boundaries.

Glad to hear of the left-wing movement in Sweden. Maybe with an internet station like ours we can convince them to take action and to make themselves more vocal. Anything we can do to advance the cause of leftist beliefs using the Internet is worth it.

On another note, in previous revolutions (Cuba, Ireland, Russia, anywhere) we didn't have the wonderful communications tool that is the Internet. We must use the Internet to our advantage. We are already building websites and groups to spread socialism (I use 'socialism' in the broad sense). But I feel that the Internet should and will be used as a military weapon in a contemporary revolutionary army, whether or not that army is contained to a nation or dispersed across the globe. Whether superpowers of the world admit or not I'm sure that cyber warfare plays a part in most - if not all - of the wars that we are subjected to today. Should modern guerillas not take advantage of the same technology? Definitely! We often see hackers as criminals. But many universities teach computer forensics, computer applications, networking technologies... People who study such courses - and those who are very familiar with computing technology - will be extremely valuable soldiers in the Revolution.

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[Janus]

Anyone here with a shitload of bandwidth? I was messing about with shoutcast and realised that we could use online radio as a medium for communicating with the masses, just as was done with various revolutions in the past.
There are certain frequencies on international radio that is totally devoted to amateurs. :)

[Guest_reddawn]

Even if the playlist is only changed once a week (on Fridays usually), it think this website from Seattle is quite good : http://myspace.com/revolusi_boleh