Isreal

[kjt1981]

Im keen to know more about the ins and outs of the Isreali conflict if anyone knows of any good links? I read somewhere that it is infact a proxy war being fought between USA and Iran, to what extent is this true? Is it also accurate to say that Jewish money in USA keeps them behind Isreal? Or is this "zionist conspiracy" Propoganda? I also read somewhere (on revleft, i think) that Isreal was deliberately placed where it is post WW2 to create conflict (therefore giving arms traders someone to sell to). To what extent is this true?

Thanks in advance.

Peace.

[Whitten]

Israel was placed where it is because of jeruselum, their holy city. The war is the result of an ongoing conflict between Israel and its neighbours, Israel refusing to recognise the sovereignty of its neighbours governments, and then blaming its illegal intervention on the fact that those states are to week to keep the terrorists there under control, despite the fact that it was Israel that acted in order to keep Lebanon weak.

The US have been backing Israel with military equipment that even most of NATO dont get, along with its almighty power of the UN security council Veto. The reasons for this are debatable. Iran are the sponsors of Hezbolla, and it wouldnt surpise me if what the bourgeois are saying about Syria's involvement is true, too. It is suggested that Iran may have coerced Hezbolla into starting this conflict in order to draw attention away from its nuclear program.

[Delta]

I'm not an expert on the situation, but if you're interested you might like this documentary on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict over at Google video called Peace, Propaganda, and the Promised Land (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7828123714384920696).

[emma_goldman]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2006, 07:56 PM
Im keen to know more about the ins and outs of the Isreali conflict if anyone knows of any good links? I read somewhere that it is infact a proxy war being fought between USA and Iran, to what extent is this true? Is it also accurate to say that Jewish money in USA keeps them behind Isreal? Or is this "zionist conspiracy" Propoganda? I also read somewhere (on revleft, i think) that Isreal was deliberately placed where it is post WW2 to create conflict (therefore giving arms traders someone to sell to). To what extent is this true?

Thanks in advance.

Peace.
I don't think it's Jewish money. I just think it's a strategic place in the Middle East to have supporting you.

http://www.zmag.org/shalom-meqa.htm

:D

[MichaelCollins]

Zionists demanded Palestine at least as early as WWI. Britain was to issue the Balfour Declaration, giving support for Jewish control of Palestine, in exchange for Jewish support for America's entry into the war, despite the fact that Palestine was not Britain's to give. Following the end of the war and the establishment of the League of Nations, Palestine became a British mandate but they did not give it over to the Jews. Zionist terrorists waged a war agains the Britsh and, indeed, the Zionist faction in Palestine sought alliance of the NSDAP and Germany against the British following the rise to power of the Nazis. If I remember correctly, they were laughed out, though Heinrich Himmler maintained contact with the World Jewish Congress and other Zionist organizations up until the end of the war and the fall of Berlin.

I remember this from a holocaust lit class I took summer after my freshman year to bump my credits up to jr level so i could study abroad my 2nd year of uni, and reading i've done on my own.

anyway....


as for Jewish money interests in the USA or Jewish media control... it'd be difficult for anyone to say that such control IS NOT there. However, whether or not their is a conscience conspiracy is anyone's guess. That said, Rupert Murdoc, owner of News Corp, which controls Fox News in the United States and Sky News in the UK, is Jewish and no one can say that his media empire has NOT come down squarely in the Pro-Israel, Pro-Iraq War and Pro-"war on terrorism" side of things.

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as to the sugestion that Israel's offensive is proxy war for the US and Iran, I might suggest that Israel cannot strike Iran because that would risk open, fixed-piece battle with Egypt, Syria, and others, not to mention Iran. In addition, Hamas and Hezballah would likely take the gloves off and go all out behind the lines. Hamas and Hezballah didn't exist during the Six Day war and whatnot. The fight between Israel and Hezballa is there to attempt to bolster American public support for a US offensive against Iran if need be by showing how evil they are by funding Hezballah.

If you think that's over the top, try watching fox news and listening to what they say, not the words they speak. if that makes sense.